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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Hillary confirms....Obama is a liar
Date:   9/27/2012 8:12:53 AM

Well now Hillary has finally admitted what everyone in the world except TOTUS knows, the Ambassador killing in Libya was a coordinated attack by Islamofascist terrorists and had NOTHING to do with amstupid movie trailer that no one in the Middle East has seen. The world is healing, Muslims love us, HAHAHAHAHA. That's just what Odips hit said would happen, not what those of us with a brain knew would happen as a result of fecklessness and appeasement. What a bunch of rank amateurs being led by a poser in chief...... What say you GF and Archie???? Is Hillary right and Obama is a liar or is the rest of the world wrong? Man it must be tough to be an Obama sycophant. Or are you too busy scouring the Internet for the occasional faulty poll that makes you feel better?



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Followed by more disastrous economic news
Date:   9/27/2012 8:49:41 AM

2Q GDP revised down to a pitiful 1.3% - govt media ignores Jobless claims at 359,000 - govt media ignores Durable orders down 13% - govt media ignores CEO confidence goes negative - govt media ignores I could go on but they are closing the door on my flight. GF and Archie....why are you so proud of the worthless one Jimmy Carter 2nd? Oh yeah, he supports gay marriage and infanticide........nice......



Name:   Old Diver - Email Member
Subject:   Followed by more disastrous economic news
Date:   9/27/2012 9:43:26 AM

   Another thing the media refuses to say is that in huge influx of Muslims most are illegal aliens. They are much more dangerous than the Latinos. The Latinos don't want to impose Sharia Law or behead those who dare to disagree with them. We welcome legal immigrants who want to become Americans but we shouldn't allow in those who would destroy our society. It would be insane to allow an arsonist in your home.
    Wake up! The Constitution is not a suicide pact!




Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Followed by more disastrous economic news
Date:   9/27/2012 1:01:58 PM

Republicans only care about children BEFORE they are born.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Yeah right
Date:   9/27/2012 1:19:52 PM (updated 9/27/2012 1:22:26 PM)

That's why study after study show that liberals are tightwads and conservatives are way more generous in their giving to charity regardless of their income level. Why do conservatives oppose infanticide (just because I know you may not understand this means killing a baby AFTER it is born) while the left not only supports it they promote it? Why do conservatives oppose euthanasia of the elderly and the soon to be death panels under Obamacare while liberals not only support it they actually think its compassionate to kill the elderly and the sick? Why do conservatives believe in personal responsibility which breeds a lifetime of satisfaction and well deserved pride while liberals believe in dependence on government which breeds a lack of self worth, anger, a senses of entitlement and misery for all? Why do conservatives promote school choice so kids can get the heck out of failed schools and liberals regularly oppose it, including the President who kicked poor black kids out of his kids own school? I could go on but point made. You see GF, you see dependence on the government as compassion when in reality the opposite is true. GF, you are way off the mark here but thats the definition of modern liberalism, believing so much that just isn's so.....



Name:   widgethater - Email Member
Subject:   Followed by more disastrous economic news
Date:   9/27/2012 3:13:14 PM


Thank you old diver--Well said!!



Name:   lakngulf - Email Member
Subject:   Followed by more disastrous economic news
Date:   9/27/2012 3:18:27 PM

You said it right GF.  We care about them because they are, as you say, "children".  And if they are "children" why do you not care about them?



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Are they not a human life
Date:   9/27/2012 4:38:15 PM (updated 9/27/2012 4:38:51 PM)


just because they are not yet born?



Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   Are they not a human life
Date:   9/27/2012 5:30:38 PM

The first one of you dudes to carry and give birth to a child will be the first one who should have a say. OR the day having sex results in your having to carry and bear a child, please go ahead and pontificate.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   so whats your point
Date:   9/27/2012 5:56:22 PM


Is it a human life or not just because it has not been born?   Simple question ... I don't think you have to be the one carrying the child to answer such a simple question.  

If I asked my wife, I know her answer.  What is yours?






Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   so whats your point
Date:   9/27/2012 6:06:24 PM

I am not sure since I can point to several examples of "it"s that have been born, yet the quality of their lives would not necessarily suggest "human." But I do think that many women who would be subject to pro- life will are indeed examples of human life, and therefore they should have the say about their bodies. I have to reiterate that such a choice should not be the choice of someone who would never have to face that situation.



Name:   slapoutomm - Email Member
Subject:   Are they not a human life
Date:   9/27/2012 6:11:13 PM

 When you are the pregnant one with no home and no way to feed that baby or you,  THEN  you get a say.  Until then you pony up and pay for those kids without a father or shut up.  Males pull their pants up go home and it is not mine.  Well let me tell you,  dna should be used for fatherhood and the fathers parents should have to pay just like girls parents.  The girls did not get pregnant all by themselves .   Pregnancy for girls is very destructive in their lives without a suppport system.  It  dooms any chance they may have to  prosper , not so with the impregnateing father.  The girls parents are often shamed and end up raising the child in their later years when they should be enjoying retirement.   



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   so whats your point
Date:   9/27/2012 7:53:41 PM

If it is a living breathing life ... it is murder.  You do not have a choice to kill any human being after they are born, so why should you just because it is still in someone. 

Do you support flushing cats and dogs down the toilet too after they are born if you do not want them? 





Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Are they not a human life
Date:   9/27/2012 7:56:42 PM


so that is justification for killing an innocent life?  Sounds selfish to me ... there are other options.  Have you ever heard of adoption ... people that can not have children would love to adopt and love and bring up a child.




Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   Are they not a human life
Date:   9/28/2012 6:41:53 AM

no ww, I had never heard of this option. thanks for the enlightenment. thank goodness you are there to help out all the ignorant folks who so rely on your opinion when making the most important decisions of their lives.



Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   Are they not a human life
Date:   9/28/2012 6:41:54 AM

no ww, I had never heard of this option. thanks for the enlightenment. thank goodness you are there to help out all the ignorant folks who so rely on your opinion when making the most important decisions of their lives.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Are they not a human life
Date:   9/28/2012 6:55:52 AM

Glad I could help so you did not have to murder an innocent life.




Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Profoundly stupid argument
Date:   9/28/2012 8:51:58 AM

Hey I Took Too Much Ecstasy, are you black? Well if not you cannot have an opinion on racism. Are you gay? If not, then you cannot have an opinion on gay marriage. Have you ever been murdered? Obviously not, then you can't have an opinion on murder. Do you see how profoundly stupid that argument is?!?!? You see that's what libtards do, instead of facing the logic and reason of an argument they tell whoever disagrees with them that they don't even have the right to an opinion. Now if I had to be put in the position of arguing that murdering an innocent child is not only OK but even something to be admired, I too would probably use a nonsensical statement like that. You claimed not to be a libtard but each and every one of your opinions bely that statement. At least I am consistent and believe in the sanctity of life from conception to natural birth. You just believe I should not have the right to have that belief......what a rube......



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Oh and by the way
Date:   9/28/2012 8:54:25 AM

Hillary still confirms that your most blessed Messiah the worthless one is an abject liar and the economy is also in a shambles. Any factual, logical retort to that or because I am not POTUS I should have no opinion on whether he is a liar? I know, I don't have a PhD in economics so I can have no opinion about the economy too, right?



Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   Profoundly stupid argument
Date:   9/28/2012 10:40:57 AM

You are on to me.  I am a black gay murderer.  I kill angry white men by threatening the little bit of power they used to have.  You better have a martini before you blow an artery. 



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Yet another nonsensical response
Date:   9/28/2012 10:28:44 PM

I realize that creating straw men arguments and then trying to project them on others is a favorite tactic of the intellectually defeated but I guess I had expected a little more than this kind of silly response. And when you combine it with your assumption that I am even remotely exercised about a debate with you its even funnier. You see Itooktoomuchecstasy, I find it relaxing and fun, although not terribly intellectually taxing or stimulating to respond to posts like yours. Like Archie, its shooting fish in a barrel. My anticipation is that soon enough you will become angry because of the inability to respond using facts, logic or reason and you will devolve into ad homimum attacks and projecting your own inadequacies on me. Seems to be SOP for the libtards that post to the forum.



Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   Yet another nonsensical response
Date:   9/29/2012 9:12:03 AM

silly little powerless man



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Yet another nonsensical response
Date:   9/29/2012 10:25:01 AM


I don't have a dog in this hunt but from your response it looks like MM's prediction was right on.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Yep.....so predictable
Date:   9/29/2012 3:23:30 PM

I would like to feel some satisfaction in my predictive abilities but liberals are so true to form. No answer to the arguments, just silly, irrelevant responses.







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