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GoneFishin
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A Real Idiot
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10/23/2012 9:21:53 PM
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Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock says when a woman is impregnated during a rape, "it's something God intended." Mourdock was asked Tuesday during the final minutes of a debate whether abortion should be allowed in cases of rape or incest. He replied: "I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that's something God intended to happen."
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Barneget
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A Real Idiot
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10/23/2012 10:31:37 PM
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There are some things your heart tells you that you should just keep to yourself, especially when you are in the public eye. Thomas Jefferson wrote extensively on the subject.
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MrHodja
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A Real Idiot
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10/23/2012 10:44:21 PM
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You say idiot, I say a man of his convictions.
You railed at me for calling names. Is this more of the liberal double standard?
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MartiniMan
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Only politically speaking........
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10/24/2012 8:48:59 AM
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It is indeed a sad day when someone can speak the truth and be vilified for it. But that is the modern Democrat party for you and left wing nuts in particular. Nowhere did he say it was God's plan for a woman to be raped. God gave us free will and far too many misuse that free will to abuse others. That is not God's plan. That is man's willful rebellion against God and the guilty party should be punished.
But God in his infinite wisdom created procreation as a potential outcome of the act whether it was consensual or not. In this case the woman is the victim of a crime but the child is still an innocent. Why the child must be murdered for the crime committed by the father is a mystery to me.
But in this day and age such a comment is an obvious lightning rod for those on the left to pillory someone speaking the truth and it was ill advised.
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GoneFishin
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I Am Not Alone...............
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10/24/2012 9:58:05 AM
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"Gov. Romney disagrees with Richard Mourdock's comments, and they do not reflect his views," Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said in an email to The Associated Press." Not quite limited to Dems and the left.
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MartiniMan
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Never said you were....
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10/24/2012 11:02:07 AM
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No, the left is alone in trying to make hay out of a guy saying what is objectively true. As I pointed out, it is an issue only politically and Romney is wise not to get embroiled in it. His response is the best way to do so and then he can quickly move on and talk about what is important to the American people, jobs, the economy, national defense, etc.
Side shows like this may excite the left wing nuts but that is all it is, a side show. Most intelligent Americans understand his point but also recognize the impolitic way in which he stated it.......
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MrHodja
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I Am Not Alone...............
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10/24/2012 11:23:18 AM
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Where does it say he is an "idiot"?
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ecstasypoint
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Never said you were....
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10/24/2012 11:26:01 AM
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Just to clarify, are you saying that God's intentions are objectively true?
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GoneFishin
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The Hypocritical Right
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10/24/2012 11:33:37 AM
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"The GOP platform states " that "the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed." Yet, Romney is pro choice on rape and incest. I guess the life of the unborn is really not that great an issue.
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GoneFishin
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The Hypocritical Right
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10/24/2012 11:33:38 AM
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"The GOP platform states " that "the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed." Yet, Romney is pro choice on rape and incest. I guess the life of the unborn is really not that great an issue.
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MartiniMan
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God is truth
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10/24/2012 11:46:17 AM
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MartiniMan
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Who cares?
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10/24/2012 11:56:10 AM
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Its driving you crazy isn't it GF? Unlike the Democrat party that has a litmus test when it comes to abortion, the GOP is much more practical and adult like and will support a candidate that may not agree with every person on every issue all the time. Unless you believe a woman can kill her baby whenever she wants, including after a botched abortion, there is no home for you as a national candidate in the Democrat party. The GOP is more balanced and reasonable.
That Romney does not agree with me and many other socially conservative Republicans on this issue is unfortunate but does not disqualify him from our support in the least. Quite the contrary, when you consider the alternative (Oblamer who loves infanticide) it is entirely rational to fully support Romney/Ryan and not the least bit hypocritical. What is hypocritical is the left's absurd position of opposing the death penalty for the guilty while gleefully supporting and promoting the murder of innocent babies.
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MrHodja
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You Didn't Answer My Question
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10/24/2012 12:08:27 PM (updated 10/24/2012 12:09:03 PM)
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But you never do when "caught with your pants down".
No surprise, you can't justify calling him an "idiot".
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ecstasypoint
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Who cares?
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10/24/2012 1:00:48 PM
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I am not for abortion, and I don't believe that anyone is. No one thinks it's "gleeful." That is just a pompous thing to say, kind of like, saying you know what God's intentions are. Lucky for all of you guys, you will NEVER ever have to make the decision to have an abortion. The first one of you that carries, bears, and raises a child forced on you by a rapist gets to make the decision. All the insulting and YELLING in the world will not change the fact that other people have a right to their opinions, too. Barneget was right in the first place. Some things just need to NOT be said.
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lakngulf
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Who cares?
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10/24/2012 1:12:53 PM
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Lesser of two evils, for those that can tell a difference.
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GoneFishin
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Hey Hodja
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10/24/2012 1:21:56 PM
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Anyone who brings this up 3 weeks from the election is an idiot.
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MartiniMan
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Hmmmm.......
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10/24/2012 1:37:51 PM
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No one is for abortion? Gee, you must have never been in a Planned Parenthood office and listen to them extol the joys of murdering your baby (yes I know they never say it this way) and how you will have no adverse effects (this is based on hundreds of statements by women who have had abortions and years of therapy afterward). And possibly you could explain to me their vociferous objections to the suggestion that women have an ultrasound prior to an abortion, or parental consent for teens (you know, the ones that have to have parental consent for an aspirin in the nurses office) or the ones that object to women being told about the option of adoption instead of abortion and so on. Dude, you need to understand that the abortion industry is a big business and they dang sure are gleeful when someone walks in the door. It is not pompous to state the obvious but it is delusional to not recognize it.
And I thought I had dispelled the nonsensical argument about not being allowed to have an opinion because I am not a woman. That is pure nonsense and if I need to inform you on that again I am glad to but that will be the last time. I absolutely have a right to stand up for innocent babies being murdered by the abortion industry and if like Biden you don't want to impose your beliefs thats fine. But I have to wonder who is more compassionate, particularly since most aborted babies are minorities ala Margaret Sangers eugenics vision.
And finally, who is yelling and insulting? I am presenting a rational, logical, well reasoned opinion. You seem to mistake my convictions in opposition to others beliefs as insulting. Makes no sense to me but if it makes you feel better have at it.
On the comment about knowing what God wants all I can do is point you to natural law and God's revelation to man over the eons. Dr. Robert George of Princeton has done some very excellent work on this topic if you are interested. But if you have an alternate suggestion for the potential natural outcome of the act I am all ears. Of course what I believe takes a certain amount of faith. If you don't have it you will likely not agree with me. And at the moment of our death we will know for certain who was right and who was wrong.....or not if there is only nothingness out there. I choose to believe because it is the only rational thing to do. Plenty of others choose the opposite and thats fine although a bit sad.
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MrHodja
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Hey Hodja
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10/24/2012 1:38:15 PM
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You need some education. Maybe, if his number one goal is to get elected at any cost, he made an idiotic statement. That doesn't make him an idiot and, unless you know him personally, you have no right to call hiom an idiot.
If I were you I'd be more concerned about Oblamer's Benghazi house of cards that is about to come crashing down.
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ecstasypoint
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yawn....
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10/24/2012 1:45:48 PM
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not rational, not logical, boring and arrogant
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MartiniMan
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Wow, great argument....
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10/24/2012 2:30:22 PM
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Wow, I am completely overwhelmed by your rebuttal. Those examples of my lack of logic were devastating. The response to my factual points with other facts really got me thinking about the validity of my views.......oh wait a second, you took a page out of Archie and coppertop's playbook and provided a fact free, "I don't like what you wrote", "you are boring" response.
You don't have to agree with my perspective. I am used to an irrational adherence to failed beliefs. But what this really tells me is that you have no ability to respond to my points so you are going to take your ball and go home. Fine with me........you know what they say about arguing with certain people. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. At least I don't have to deal with that.
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MartiniMan
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Hey Hodja
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10/24/2012 2:35:10 PM
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GF is not worried about the incompetence followed by the lies to the American people for purely political gain. Nor does he care about the inevitable result of four years of failed foreign policy and the carnage that is happening and will accelerate. Nope, he is only fixated on a Senate race in a state he doesn't live and the comments by a candidate that he can't vote for over an issue that is of such little importance it is almost mind boggling.
But when you adhere to failed policies that have greatly harmed women, you need some straw man or red herring to shore up your support with that demographic. More's the pity that far too many women fall for this but such is the sorry state of our education system.
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ecstasypoint
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Wow, great argument....
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10/24/2012 2:48:59 PM
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Are you sure you are not that guy Lifetime somewhere down a Slough? You seem to have nothing better to do than to rant on a public forum as if it is your job. My opinion is clear. I said it twice. You do not have a vagina, so you cannot decide about abortion. It is the law. You rant on as if that ranting will give you the right, which is what you want. You want to control what someone who is not you does. You cannot. The more clearly that is argued to you, the more illogical and irrational you become. You are not here to dispute my wrongful thinking. Every freshman knows that the topic of abortion cannot be argued because people do not change their minds. It is personal. It is about people's lives, their bodies. Not just the unborn one, but someone else, too. And that person has the say so, not you. I have nothing more to say, that is why I will say no more, not because you are superior but because you and this topic are dull.
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MartiniMan
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You would not know a rant
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10/24/2012 2:56:01 PM
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from the truth if it hit you in the face. You classify anyone that disagrees with you as ranting. If I believed what you do I can't say that I blame you. But I don't think you expressing your opinion is a rant....I just think its just wrong for all the reasons that I stated. Like Jack Nicholson said, "You can't handle the truth!" Now that was a rant and a memorable movie moment. But go ahead back to prattering with those that agree with you......its so much more interesting and won't cause you to yawn. LOL
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