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Name:   greycove - Email Member
Subject:   Lake Martin above the rule curve.
Date:   2/28/2013 10:57:46 PM

Had a message on my email that the rule on 2-28-13 was 483.  She sits at 485.1 on this date.  Wondered if that
might trigger maximum power generation or might APC consider opening gates?  What have they done in prior
times when the rule was surpassed?



Name:   btexpress - Email Member
Subject:   Lake Martin above the rule curve.
Date:   3/1/2013 5:58:57 AM

They FLUSH it...no forward thinking.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   All your answers here
Date:   3/1/2013 11:55:31 AM

https://lakes.alabamapower.com/

Go to the site, click on the Tallapoosa.  Click on Martin.  Running 2 and 3 turbines all the time.  It will drop until it hits the curve.



Name:   btexpress - Email Member
Subject:   All your answers here
Date:   3/1/2013 5:47:50 PM


  But why do they drop below rule curve?  If they wait 3 or 4 days without rain they are back to rule curve.  Instead they lead the curve and get caught short when we don't get rain.   With a little forward thinking/planning like split the difference betwenn rule and surplus.  Plan ahead based on forecast so they don't have to cry drought later.  Just sayin



Name:   Ulysses E. McGill - Email Member
Subject:   All your answers here
Date:   3/1/2013 6:40:35 PM

I'm thinking you could pull off a Jedi mind meld with the FERC engineers and policy makers.....here's your chance to move them ahead on the new licensing agreement and get them to consider all of these things they've probably never even thought or talked about.





Name:   Carnac - Email Member
Subject:   Lake Martin above the rule curve.
Date:   3/2/2013 8:40:24 AM

In the real world of real business risk/reward is the rule.  There is always competition and it makes companies better.  You make profits the old fashioned way.  You earn them.  Real world businesses require forward thinking to stay ahead of the competition.  Be strong or be gone.  In a public utility company, specifically APCo, there is no risk/reward to attain profits.  Raw materials or equipment costing more?  Go to the Public Service Commission and ask for a rate increase from your customers.  No forward thinking required.  Rather than risk/reward thay have a guaranteed return on investment.  Who needs forward thinking?  At APCo it happens only every forty or so years when they prepare to submit a new licensing application to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.  APCO will ALWAYS err on the conservative side.  That's why they always flush.

As a power provider APCO is teriffic.  Very dependable service at relatively low cost.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   No argument for me
Date:   3/2/2013 10:16:08 AM

But remember, Lake Martin is a hydroelectric and flood control dam first and recreation, property values, etc. are ancillary. Fact is, they pretty much have to do what the FERC permits says.



Name:   btexpress - Email Member
Subject:   No argument for me
Date:   3/3/2013 12:08:15 PM


  Bet you a beer that we are below "rule curve" by Wednesday



Name:   CAT BOAT - Email Member
Subject:   No argument for me
Date:   3/3/2013 12:23:33 PM

MM aka. PINKY prolly would take that bet if you change it to a Martini.



Name:   Ulysses E. McGill - Email Member
Subject:   No argument for me
Date:   3/3/2013 1:22:39 PM

Considering that's APC's mandate, I think it will happen by tomorrow evening..... but more rain is on the way and it could temporarily pass the rule again. Summer levels will be here soon.



Name:   lakeguy - Email Member
Subject:   No argument for me
Date:   3/3/2013 2:58:34 PM

be careful, facts sometimes get in the way with people who want to talk about that which they know little about



Name:   btexpress - Email Member
Subject:   No argument for me
Date:   3/5/2013 5:22:32 PM

   I win...they went below rule curve today.



Name:   Ulysses E. McGill - Email Member
Subject:   No argument for me
Date:   3/5/2013 8:07:04 PM

Your prognosticating skills are astonishing....congratulations!



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Should have taken that bet!
Date:   3/7/2013 12:24:42 PM

Somehow APCO managed to drop right to the rule curve and have been slowly riding it up.  As Cat said, had it been a martini I might have taken that bet.  Now its too late!



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   OK, time for arbitration
Date:   3/7/2013 12:26:06 PM

I didn't see it go below the rule curve on the graph.  We may need arbitration on the bet that never happened.  







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