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water_watcher
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Archie ...
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3/11/2013 7:33:01 PM
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Can you tell me what Obama has done for energy prices ... I don't want to be critical that we are paying more than twice what we did before Obama took office .... so I came to the good news Obama source so you could tell us the positive and how that does not hurt the economy.
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architect
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WW you know...
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3/12/2013 8:50:46 AM (updated 3/12/2013 9:06:56 AM)
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The president has very little to do with energy costs on a day to day basis. For instance, we are paying almost twice as much today for gasoline as we were when Obama took office but we have, as yet, never paid (on average) what we paid at the peak price during W's second term. It is the global market demand (you remember...private enterprise...capitalism), geo-political conditions and some things as mundane as when refineries s close for maintenance that set the daily price...not something that Obama or Bush says or does. If the pipeline is built, as I suspect it will be, and alternative energy policy on wind, solar and nuclear come on line, new auto mileage requirements kick in, and if some semblance of stability take hold in The middle east...well you see these are the kind of things that will have more to do with what we will be paying in 2023 no matter who is president and no matter what he or she is doing or saying at that time.
BTW: If it is, as you apparently believe, Obama's fault that gas prices are up, then does he get your credit now that they are trending down? Since we are talking energy, who do you credit with the fact that natural gas prices are at the lowest they have been in well over a decade? I certainly don't credit Obama for current gasoline or natural gas prices, but must assume since you obviously blame him for literally ANYTHING bad that happens then you, being "fair and balance" and in no way hypocritical in your beliefs and opinions, must be chomping at the bit to thank Mr. Obama for making it possible for you to pay 8 cents a gallon less for gasoline today than you did last Tuesday. I am sure he appreciates your gratitude!
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water_watcher
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You are twisted
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3/12/2013 10:23:23 AM
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Trending down? So you want me to give him credit that they are 2.1 times higher vs 2.2 times higher a couple months ago. Yes I will give him credit.
It is odd that the dems and Obama when he ran the 1st time said it was a disgrace that gas prices were so high and how it hurts the US economy and called for Bush to release oil from the strategic oil reserves. But now it is no big deal and throw up your hands that the president can't do anything about it.
Wrong, it is do to his policies that we have had "continued" prices over $3.50 during his whole administration and they are trending higher if you look more than a month or two at a time.
It is his focus on wind mills and solar panels, restricting drilling on federal lands, will not approve an energy policy that uses our abundance of natural gas, refusal to approve the Keystone pipeline ... I could go on.
Yet you compare a "spot" blip under Bush that lasted around 4 to 6 weeks due to major refiners being down and economic activity that was creating demand. Can you imagine if we actually had a robust economy like under Bush what gas and oil prices would be.
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water_watcher
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Natural gas
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3/12/2013 10:26:28 AM
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I do credit Obama with the very low natural gas prices ... because we have an abundance and he refuses to approve an energy policy that takes advantage of it ... so yes, he is responsible for the low prices because we have the supply and he will not make a decision that will create the demand and therefore reduce oil demand and bring those prices down.
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