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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Wienerwagger the sore loser
Date:   9/18/2013 2:29:08 PM

LOL, what an idiot......by the way, I was shocked to see the homophobic Democrats that rejected a known lesbian in favor of a heterosexual middle aged white guy for their mayoral nominee.

URL: Wiener's R-rated gesture

Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Wienerwagger the sore loser
Date:   9/18/2013 4:26:55 PM

Unlike right wing nuts, Democrats will nominate someone who can attract Independant voters to insure victory. The right will nominate a far right dude who will carry the message but lose the election. Hence, the white man over the lesbian.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Wienerwagger the sore loser
Date:   9/18/2013 4:59:28 PM (updated 9/18/2013 5:00:27 PM)

I have a difficult time thinking that Wiener ran as a viable candidate.  Perhaps he only ran to have access to any remaining campaign money.

(I also have difficulty discerning what is meant by “…hence, the white man over the lesbian.”)





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Wienerwagger the sore loser
Date:   9/18/2013 5:18:50 PM

Don't fret over it, just consider the source and dismiss it as the inane drivel that it is.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   DO NOT CONFUSE FAR RIGHT WITH CONSERVATIVE
Date:   9/18/2013 5:43:35 PM (updated 9/18/2013 5:46:05 PM)

I don’t know of ANY conservative or independent who would deprive a homosexual couple of the right to enter into a binding contract.  Some are offended that LGBTs want such behavior to fall under the sacrament of marriage.  However, most don’t base their vote on sexual orientation anyway (maybe you could back and dig up my short essay on Liz Cheney).  Though I don’t approve of homosexual union, I have friends and relatives of that ilk… both in and out of the closet… and I don’t seem to have any difficulty socializing with them.

I personally think that abortion may fall under the commandment “thou shalt not kill.” In examining my internal debate on killing, abortion falls under the “elective murder” or, perhaps, “convenient murder.” Defending ones home or country is a matter of “messy necessity” and we soldiers should feel easier about rationalizing away our guilt (if any). I do believe mercenaries are as guilty as abortionists.  Folks who want to terminate their children in the first, second… uh, ANY… trimester should pay for it themselves. Most conservatives to not want even an insignificant portion of the invoice for an abortion.

Sorry, GF… but the conservative argument has more to do will trampling the Constitution and destroying a nation than homosexuality and abortion.  As we have seen… and PRAVDA has pointed out… the votes of sanity have been diluted by the masses of duped illiterates.  The ignorant and illiterate have, against their best interests, sold their vote to the community organizer. That the truth will rear its cruel head is not a matter of IF… it is a matter of WHEN.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Wienerwagger the sore loser
Date:   9/18/2013 9:37:58 PM

The Dem nominee is a white guy named DeBlasio. One of the other candidates was a woman who is a lesbian and she only got 16% of the vote. My dig was at the left who will claim that any vote by a conservative against a protected class is racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. I was basically turning the same illegitimate argument on the left wing nuts. They are obviously homophobic because 84% of them voted against the muff diver. But of course GF, staying true to the lefts inability to deal with their own hypocrisy and double standard, claims that they were just voting for the guy that would attract independents. So I guess what he is saying is that independents are homophobes as well so the left decided to vote for a guy that the independents could vote for in the general. I am sure the irony of this is totally lost on him but I appreciate his weak attempt........now if he can only explain again about Syria........meanwhile the economy continues to tank........



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Hey MM , WIX, Hodja and the rest of the Right
Date:   9/19/2013 8:00:35 AM

"I don’t know of ANY conservative or independent who would deprive a homosexual couple of the right to enter into a binding contract.  Some are offended that LGBTs want such behavior to fall under the sacrament of marriage."

Never realized that you and your Conservative buddies accept the right of a gay couple to enter into a union short of marriage. You have come a long way.




Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Pay attention and you will learn something
Date:   9/19/2013 8:28:39 AM (updated 9/19/2013 8:30:48 AM)

First of all I notice you are changing the subject from your own hypocrisy and insulting of independents but I will respond anyway.

If you pulled your head out of the pmsnBS talking heads rear ends you would realize that the vast majority of social conservatives have no problem with civil unions.  Frankly most of us would prefer that the government not be involved in these issues in the first place.  But such is life when government has to intrude on every aspect of our lives.

What we object to is the doomed attempt to redefine marriage so gays can try to obtain a sense of legitimacy that natural law and God's law will never allow.  Even if they get the legal right to marry, even if they get the government to try to force people to violate their religious convictions, they will still not be satisfied.  That is quite simply because in their inner being and their soul they know that homosexuality is disordered and not God's plan.  That they lack the discipline and formation to overcome same-sex attraction (which is a cross that 2%-3% of the population carries) is something that dooms them to a life of unease and dissatisfaction.  Just look at the rate of mental illness, disease, etc. in the homosexual community as compared to the general population.  And look at the rate of deviant behavior, infidelity, etc. in that community.  We also object to any setting for raising a child other than one man and one woman in a marriage because there are copious studies that demonstrate conclusively that this is the best possible arrangement for a child to be raised.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Hey MM , WIX, Hodja and the rest of the Right
Date:   9/19/2013 9:02:13 AM

Most conservatives will stand by your right to do whatever (and whoever) you want in the privacy of your home no matter how perverse it is.  What conservatives do not want is to pay for it.

Homosexuality is a biological dead-end… unless you are an earthworm… and annelids… uh, never mind.  True… homosexuality has been around as long as history, but now the sales pitch is on to make it something that it is not.

So, AGAIN let me make it clear to you, Fishy - You have the right to do whatever you want in the privacy of your (or your partner’s) home.  You do not have the right to rub my face in it.





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Hey MM , WIX, Hodja and the rest of the Right
Date:   9/19/2013 9:16:07 AM

You know not what you write.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Hey MM , WIX, Hodja and the rest of the Right
Date:   9/19/2013 9:40:50 AM (updated 9/19/2013 9:41:15 AM)


Mr Hodja, please be more specific.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Hey MM , WIX, Hodja and the rest of the Right
Date:   9/19/2013 9:56:42 AM (updated 9/19/2013 10:01:54 AM)

I do not recall ever having commented on the gay marriage issue. Goofy will most likely spend hours trying to prove me wrong, but I am far more a fiscal conservative than social conservative. His inclusion of me in his post subject is inappropriate.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   The broad brush
Date:   9/19/2013 10:05:40 AM

Like most leftists, reality and truth are immaterial when they can paint anyone that disagrees with them on politics with a broad brush.  



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Hodja
Date:   9/19/2013 11:26:04 AM

I apologize if I mistated your position on gays.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Hey MM
Date:   9/19/2013 8:32:19 PM

"That is quite simply because in their inner being and their soul they know that homosexuality is disordered"

Now how would you know what a gay person thinks of themselves? You make no sense when you try and define what others feel or think. 



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Easy to answer that one
Date:   9/20/2013 9:34:21 AM

GF, all you have to do is look at the homosexual community and you can see the self loathing, irresponsible destructive behavior.  And you need to ask yourself why they are so militant about forcing their sexual orientation on the rest of the world as if we care.  For a great many of them, their sexual orientation is the defining attribute of their existence which in and of itself is disordered.  But the fact that they want to use the force of government to achieve faux legitimacy should be proof enough for any thinking person.  If they truly thought there was nothing disordered or aberrant with the sexual orientation they would not feel so compelled to force their views on the rest of us and more importantly, want us to be punished for not accepting their lifestyle.  But if that's not enough for you there are any number of studies that document the high rates of mental illness in the community and their inherent and bizarre need for our approval of their sexual appetites.  

The fact that a group of people that represents 2-3% of the population is trying to force their abnormal sexual lifestyle on the rest of us that have reasonable religious convictions that view that lifestyle as inherently disordered should be enough proof for a thinking person........which of course eliminates left wing nuts.......  



Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Goof Head
Date:   9/20/2013 9:51:56 AM

Have you noticed that Aaron Alexis does not seem to have had a female in his life.  I may be wrong about this, and I apologize in advance if I am, but Alexis's mental problems may have started with conflicts over his homosexuality.







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