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Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   Gubment shutdown strategem
Date:   10/6/2013 11:01:23 PM

Way I see it, if the Republicons and Demorats keep their horns locked - no blinking, no more borrowing.

The payment on the debt would then be about 10% of the taxes coming in.  ( $200 billion/month )

The White House and Treasury secretary Jack Lew then would decide whether to respect the payment of the debt or not. Something will be cut.

Ya think non payment of debt would significantly raise the interest rate above zero on $17 trillion?

George Will said that would lead to world economic locusts, etc etc.

And of course it is Republican conservatives who would be at fault.  A perfect political storm.



Do I have a clue?   Just now trying to figger this out.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   You are wrong
Date:   10/7/2013 8:30:59 AM

This is not the Republicans fault.  They have sent multiple passed budgets to the Senate over the last four years and Harry Reid/Obama refuse to bring them up for a vote because they want a govt shutdown because they think (incorrectly in my estimation) that it will benefit them politically.  Hence the need for CR's and yet another example of Democrats "winning" when the American people lose (in this case winning like Charlie Sheen was "winning").  There have been multiple efforts by the GOP to enter into negotiations and both Reid and Obama have steadfastly refused to do so.  All to protect the worst law ever passed and one that poll after poll show the American people do not want. Y'all on the left love to lecture about compromise and negotiation until it is your side that refuses to do so......bunch of hypocrites.

You need to get some education because you are clueless......or maybe you get your news from pmsnBS or Jon Stewart........either way you are being shortchanged.  Get off the short bus and get educated....sheesh....these drive by posters......



Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   You are wrong, satire heavily used MM
Date:   10/7/2013 8:44:16 AM

Of course, { roll eyes } , the Republican conservatives will be blamed.    All better now?



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Neither satire nor sarcasm work well when writing
Date:   10/7/2013 8:57:08 AM

You have to be explicit but when you use the terms "Republicons" and Democrats it sends the message that you have drunk the kool aid......if that was an attempt at satire and you agree with me, my apologies.  If you actually believe what you wrote about who is at fault then I restate my point about getting off the short bus and getting a better education.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Neither satire nor sarcasm work well when writing
Date:   10/7/2013 7:17:45 PM

(I rarely comprehend that which shortbus writes.  I don’t think he passed English 101.)





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   That's what you get when you ride the short bu
Date:   10/7/2013 8:21:52 PM

I'm glad it's not just me. He must have gotten onto his parents computer when they weren't paying attention. Time for your meds.......



Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   That's what you get when you ride the short bu
Date:   10/7/2013 9:32:18 PM

So, if I get this right, ya'll approve of a conservative idiot.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   That's what you get when you ride the short bu
Date:   10/7/2013 10:08:52 PM

SB reminds e of a guy I used to work with...grabbed on to every conspiracy theory that crossed his path, regardless of how totally unsupported it might be by facts.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Now I'm really lost
Date:   10/7/2013 10:17:33 PM (updated 10/7/2013 10:29:52 PM)

Sorry but this thread has turned into a series of non sequiturs with each of your posts. Try to compose a cogent thought before you type something.......now who pray tell is the conservative to whom you are referring?



Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   Gubment shutdown strategem
Date:   10/7/2013 10:28:59 PM

Has anyone addressed the concepts in the original post?




Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Yes, I pointed out where you were wrong
Date:   10/7/2013 10:30:40 PM





Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   That's what you get when you ride the short bu
Date:   10/7/2013 10:46:35 PM

And you believe what they told you to believe about 911?
Bet you can't count the buildings that fell on 911.




Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Short bus and tin foil hat
Date:   10/8/2013 9:00:45 AM

Now I am getting worried about you........exactly what are you implying actually happened on 9/11?  

I know, it was Israel's Mossad. right?  In a cabal with the neocons (also Jewish) to dupe W into going to war against the Islamofascists and finish the job his Dad started with Iraq, right?  Oh my........



Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   Short bus and tin foil hat
Date:   10/8/2013 10:49:26 AM

Gentlemen, in order to have a conversation, one must address the thread at hand.
It was simply "how many buildings fell on 911?"

I remember two big tall ones.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   This is getting weird
Date:   10/8/2013 11:35:57 AM

Conversation is the exchange of information back and forth in a way that the sender and recipient both understand the meaning of what is trying to be conveyed.  None of us can figure out what you are trying to say.

Oh and by the way, if you are referring to the WTC towers actually some of the smaller ones around the larger ones were also destroyed.  Pretty useless information but maybe you can do a better job making your point and we can respond.



Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   Gubment shutdown strategem
Date:   10/13/2013 5:57:26 PM

Well ..just answered my question.
Looks like paying debt is required to be paid first by law. (according to my buddies facebook page)
This keeps the Demorats from having an option of defaulting the country.



Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   Gubment shutdown strategem
Date:   10/14/2013 9:57:19 AM

Since when has the law or the constitution mattered even a little bit to this regime.  If he doesn't get his new trillion dollar slush fund, er I mean debt limit increase, there is no doubt in my mind he will declare a default and blame it on Republicans.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Gubment shutdown strategem
Date:   10/14/2013 10:27:27 AM

Agree. He will fud Obamaphones before making interet payments.







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