Name:	waterph -	Reply
Subject:	Speaker Boehner
Date:	9/25/2015 2:15:03 PM (updated 9/25/2015 2:19:53 PM)

Will resign from Congress at the end of October, 2015. Obama will have to find someone else to smoke cigarettes with and play golf. What is the schedule for McConnell and L. Graham? Cannot continue to ignore the will of the American people. Why not use the power of the Purse in dealing with Obama in the House and the Nuclear Option in the Senate. Harry Reid would not hesitate to use this procedure to support Obama.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Will of the people?
Date:	9/25/2015 3:51:46 PM (updated 9/25/2015 3:55:47 PM)

I assume you are aware that Obama was the "will of the people" in the national election of 2012. If Boehner had worked for the compromises which are the will of the people, as found in a few moderate Republicans and most of the Democrats are instead of the take no prisoners bomb throwers, he would be better off and, more importantly, America would be better off.

I know you may not believe this, but the average upper middle class white resident of Alabama is not a microcosm of American opinion...you need to get out more.

Name:	au67 -	Reply
Subject:	Question
Date:	9/25/2015 5:03:30 PM

Do you know the race, ethnicity and gender of all the posters on the forum? 

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Question
Date:	9/25/2015 5:45:41 PM (updated 9/25/2015 5:47:05 PM)

No, and what difference does it make.  I know you are trying for a "gotcha" but my reference to the people who do not reflect the "will of the people" may or may not reflect the gender, income, ethnicity, or race of this forum.  I have no idea (I do have my suspicions) but l do no for certain that the majority of GOP members of congress, while they may very well reflect the majority of their constituents, are not reflecting the will of the vast majority of the people of America.  For that matter neither do most of the Democrats.  That is the problem!! Due to the way Congressional districts are drawn in a 100% partisan fashion, most of us today are not really represented by our member of congress.  I am in a district that votes 70% democratic so we are always represented by an extreme liberal.  Immediately north is a district that votes 70% republican and also has a nut in congress. To ever get us back to a reasonable balance that can get something done we need reasonable members that do represent the will of the people rather than the will of the extreme base that puts them oiver the top.  Salvation will have arrived when every congressional district is truly competitive!!

Name:	waterph -	Reply
Subject:	Question
Date:	9/25/2015 7:12:03 PM

The Republican Congressman/Congresswoman was a "nut" and the Democrat was a "liberal".Interesting comparison.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Speaker Boehner
Date:	9/25/2015 7:36:59 PM

The fact is that Boehner was ousted by his own party.  It has been discussed for months that they would ask him to step down, and apparently they did.  But for public consumption he is stepping down and leaving Congress.  The problem is that the more radical members of the right will not be happy with anyone that is willing to compromise and try to get something done. 

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Waterph
Date:	9/25/2015 7:44:10 PM

" I am in a district that votes 70% democratic so we are always represented by an extreme liberal. Immediately north is a district that votes 70% republican and also has a nut in congress. "

I read it differently. The use of the word "also" indicates to me that he considers both of them "nuts". Remove "also" and I would agree with you. 

Name:	au67 -	Reply
Subject:	Question
Date:	9/25/2015 8:25:40 PM

Are you now saying it's the Congressinal members that are not representing the will of the people and not the white folks in Alabama?

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	GF you read it exactly right
Date:	9/25/2015 9:48:34 PM

Sadly some others are less perceptive. 

My congressman is Hank Johnson (D)!...a nut and stupid...enough said.

Immediately north there is Jody Hice (R)...he says no woman should run for political office unless she has the express permission of her husband!...a nut and stupid and a Christian Jihadist...enough said.

Johnson's district is gerrymandered to be 75% black and Hice's to be 85% white.  In a common sense world each district could have been set up to be approximately 60 / 40 white to black, each would be competitive for either party and each would probably be represented by a black or white man or woman who would represent the people instead of the "base"!

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	RE: Hound...Exactly and Amen!!
Date:	9/25/2015 9:55:33 PM (updated 9/25/2015 9:56:38 PM)

Just saw a poll that said a large majority say it is time for a competitive 3d party.  Think l might be among them!

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Archypoo it sounds like
Date:	9/25/2015 10:48:32 PM

You feel like you are the victim of your own beloved liberal courts and liberal dimokrap Congress.  How else could liberals cow-tow to minorities other than set up Congressional districts that guarantee the 13% US minorities a win.  Equatable districts?  Forget it.  You liberals put it in place.....learn to love it!!

Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	RE: Hound...Exactly and Amen!!
Date:	9/25/2015 11:53:38 PM

I think we're seeing more evidence that a GOP/Tea Party split is becoming inevitable.   Moderate Republicans are going to have to draw away from the Tea Party's direction or continue this downward spiral.... especially now that public is taking the True Believers at their word:  1) We want to shut, downsize & eviserate the Government whether there is a Democrat or a Republican in the Oval Office.  and 2) We have no plans beyond that.

When the average person stops to think about it, it's a no-brainer that we don't want elected politicians who take it as their mission to shut down the government instead of run it.   Been there, done that and it cost the economy billions last time.    So my contention is that reasonable Republicans will have to step up and take back their party at some point.  Or become irrelevant.

Name:	waterph -	Reply
Subject:	RE: Hound...Exactly and Amen!!
Date:	9/26/2015 8:07:47 AM

Question for Forum Members.

If the Government is shut down by a Presidential Veto of a bill that Congress passes with 70+% support from the American people, who is responsible for the shutdown. Congress or the President.

The Press in this country and the Libs continually blame all shut downs by Congress. True or False?

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Now you know
Date:	9/26/2015 8:43:51 AM

that Kang o-BAMA is always held high as the god almighty on high whose word is law.  How dare mere mortals challenge the whims of the all powerful.......Geez!!

Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	True
Date:	9/26/2015 9:23:49 AM

Congress, with that radical right wing contingent of the Tea Party is responsible for these attempts to shut down the government.... There is no 70% majority of Americans that agree with that nonsense.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	True
Date:	9/26/2015 9:41:21 AM

I think the majority of the American people want Congress to stop this BS and get on with governing.  If they send over a bill that the President vetos, then they have a chance to override the veto is they have enough votes.  But they never do.  And that reflects the will of the people!!  Instead of worrying so much who is in the WH, people should worry more about who is being elected (and re-elected) to Congress.  If the President can serve no more than two terms as President, why should Congress have no limits on how long an individual can serve there?  The Founding Fathers never envisioned that we would have career politicians.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	True and True and amen!!
Date:	9/26/2015 11:01:48 AM (updated 9/26/2015 11:10:29 AM)

lf congress votes for something knowing the president has promised to veto it, as he is constitutionally entitled to do, then it is absolutely congress that should get the credit or blame.  If as claimed, 70% of congress voted for a measure, then they have the votes to overturn the veto...the actuality is congress does not have anywhere near that kind of support for the BS the T-party crazies push.  In most cases, including the current situation, given an up or down vote (assuming the most far out on this forum still think the democratic members should be allowed to vote!) the common sense side wins.  Another interesting thing for some of you to consider is the fact that the 54 GOP senators represent states with less than 35% of the voting population and that in almost all gongressional elections in recent years the national total votes for the democratic candidates exceeds the total for the GOP candidates. There has been a lot of inaccurate polls lately, but currently the president has an approval rating of 40% to 50%, while the congress is at 7% to 12% approval...no matter how much the polls are off, we can be sure the congress is not held in deep affection.  Neither is either party...the dems are in the hole a bit either side of 25% but look stirling compared to the GOP which is down by more than 45%!  Some of you people need to get you heads out of the sand!!!

Name:	waterph -	Reply
Subject:	True and True and amen!!
Date:	9/26/2015 11:54:03 AM (updated 9/26/2015 11:55:07 AM)

So, the majority of the American people agree:  

- Continue total funding for Planned Parenthood with no restrictions on the dollars for abortions and selling of body parts

- Absolutely no restrictions on the number of Muslim Immigrants even though 70% are young males in good physicaal condition

- Continuing to escalate spending witout a cap on the National Debt.

- The President has no responsibity for the consequences of his vetoes

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	How long oh Lord how long??
Date:	9/26/2015 12:39:27 PM (updated 9/26/2015 12:48:57 PM)

What an asinine reply.

NO, the majority of Americans do not agree with all the nonsense you just bloviated, neither can the stomach what the likes Al Sharpton and the Black Lives Matter bunch spouy ad nauseum....They want the congress and both parties to wake up, get their partisan heads out of the sand, tell the special interests to take a hike and recognize the fact that the VAST majority of the citizens are sick to death with the extremes being the only ones that get listened to.  We have had it with the crazies, corporate bribers and nutty narrow special interests always calling the shots in congress!!!!

BTW:  85% to 90% of the American people support background checks for ALL guns sold including the ones sold in private sales at gun shows.  How many of you that insist that legislation supported by 70% be voted into law have demanded your member of congress introduce background check legislation?  Hypocrisy by any other name stinks the same.

Name:	waterph -	Reply
Subject:	How long oh Lord how long??
Date:	9/26/2015 1:14:24 PM

What a response from someone who supposedly is educated. You remind me in your postingv logic of someone I knew 60+ years ago whose Daddy was his Grandpaw. Dangerous if anyone disagreed with him. Lighten up big guy. The world will go on after you anf I both pass on. We are allowed to differ without you being the judge of what is correct. 

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	How long oh Lord how long??
Date:	9/26/2015 3:17:07 PM (updated 9/26/2015 3:29:47 PM)

Indeed we all have a right to form and express our opinion and l am all in on that...l do have a problem though, when someone else decides they also have the right redefine and restate my opinion for me or for others.  A lot of posters on this forum can't seem to resist doing just that on a regular basis!

I agree that nobody has a monoply on determining what is correct and that we all have the right to disagree over what is correct,  but a lot of you guys sure seem to forget that when another of us calls your version into question.  It seems to be fine for you to "judge" your questioner but it's Kattie-bar-the door if the questioner should ever "judge" you.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	I'll take my "nut" over yours
Date:	9/28/2015 8:59:14 AM

Yours was worried the island of Guam would tip over because of too many soldiers there, right?  I defy you to come up with one comment by any current GOP member of Congress from Georgia that comes even close to that abject, unmitigated stupidity.  But then again, he is a liberal so he starts stupid and just keeps on going......

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	I guess MM agrees with Jody
Date:	9/28/2015 9:15:20 AM (updated 9/28/2015 9:17:18 AM)

I submit to you that any man who says in public that no woman should be permitted to run for office without the expressed permission of her husband is just as stupid and maybe more stupid as a man who thinks islands are boats!!  

PS:  Looks as if his omnipotent arrogance screwed up and read my post.