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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Bernie's upset win in Michigan
Date:   3/9/2016 9:37:32 AM

And yet has continues to fall further behind in the delegate count.  I still believe that sans an indictiment, and maybe even with one, Hillary will be the nominee.  But in the course of winning the nomination she is going to lose a lot of Sanders voters, especially if he continues to win states but lose more ground due to the superdelegates.  The way this is going I would be willing to bet they would prefer Trump over Hillary in the general and may actually vote for him or just stay home.  Talk about being disenfranchised.  

May be time for operation chaos if Trump wins Florida and Ohio.  Then GOP voters can vote for Bernie in the primaries and watch him win state after state and then lose the nomination because of the superdelegates.  Would be fun to watch.  Either way, his continued presence and success prevents Hillary from pivoting for the general where she can lie about what she will do if elected.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Bernie's upset win in Michigan
Date:   3/9/2016 11:31:11 AM

Have to wonder if your boy or Hill will be the bigger liar during the general election? To suggest on Hill lies should be in the joke section. Just shows your inability to be truthful. 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   You don't really want to go there
Date:   3/9/2016 11:56:59 AM

It doesn't take a lot of Googling, something you seem to do a lot, to find a litany of her lies.  And if you don't think she will lie as she falsely moves to the center in the general you have not been paying attention to politics.  





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Bernie's upset win in Michigan
Date:   3/9/2016 1:45:56 PM

Bernie's popularity doesn't surprise me.  He is a refreshing candidate, and he is promising all kind of free stuff.  But, he doesn't stand a real chance.  Bloomberg has formally opted out and I don't think Democrats will nominate someone from the floor.  So yes, I think your are right that Hillary will be the nominee.  Then it's going to get really interesting. 





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   You don't really want to go there
Date:   3/9/2016 4:34:12 PM

I never said she won't lie, but you seem to evade the truth that your boy will be an equal as a liar during the general. He has been lying daily. 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   No one is my boy
Date:   3/9/2016 4:45:45 PM

But I'll take someone that lies about dumb stuff over someone that lies to grieving families about the murder of their children, spouse and parent, her husband's rapes and adultery, exposing our classified information to our enemies in order to avoid oversight and the running of a crime family foundation to exchange favors often at the expense of our national interests for millions of dollars.  

That you see them as comparable highlights the moral and ethical bankruptcy of the left.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Your Boy Is Sick
Date:   3/9/2016 8:24:53 PM

Can you explain why he has to lie?

GOOGLE SPECIAL FROM ABC

"The majority of the products the real estate mogul highlighted are no longer being produced, aren't affiliated with him or were never available for sale publicly."





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Your Boy Is Sick
Date:   3/9/2016 8:34:44 PM

Another loaded question.  Are you ever going to realize nobody will fall for that crap?

 

When I was growing up there was a term used to describe people like you.  Using the International Phonetic Alphabet, the first letters of the term would be "Charlie Sierra".





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Why does Hillary lie?
Date:   3/9/2016 9:06:07 PM





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Why does Hillary lie?
Date:   3/9/2016 9:40:56 PM

Why does anyone lie? To avoid the truth. No different than why does your guys lie? This should set off your puppet Hodja on another of his school yard responses. 

 

MM

Hey, I hope you realize the term boys was a reference to the candidates and not personal. If you misread....I apologize.

GF





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Why does Hillary lie?
Date:   3/9/2016 10:04:00 PM

No worries, I got it.





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Why does Hillary lie?
Date:   3/9/2016 10:14:41 PM

The shoe fits.  Wear it, Charlie Sierra.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Why does Hillary lie?
Date:   3/9/2016 10:57:04 PM

Charlie Sierra??? GOOGLED it and came up with Chciken Chit? Is that what you are implying? Jus wonderin. Thanks.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Why does Hillary continue to lie about Benghazi?
Date:   3/10/2016 9:20:54 AM

From the Dem debate.....a really amazing instance of her lying when almost everyone except brain dead leftists knows she is lying and knows that she knows she is lying.  And remember, this is a question from the very left wing Jorge Ramos of Univision.

JORGE RAMOS: I want to continue with the issue of trust. Secretary Clinton, on the night of the attacks in Benghazi, you are sent an e-mail to your daughter Chelsea saying that an al-Qaeda-like group was responsible for the killing of the Americans. [AUDIENCE BOOS] However some of the families claim you lied to them. Here’s Patricia Smith, the mother of the information officer Sean Smith. Listen.

PATRICA SMITH [on the Fox News Channel, 10/23/15]: Hillary and Obama and Panetta and Biden and Susan Rice all told me it was a video when they knew it was not the video and they said that they would call me and let me know what the outcome was.

RAMOS: Secretary Clinton, did you lie to them?

HILLARY CLINTON: You know, look, I feel a great deal of sympathy for the families of the four brave Americans that we lost at Benghazi, and I certainly can’t even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son, but she’s wrong. She’s absolutely wrong. I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named, the President, the Vice President, Susan Rice, we were scrambling to get information that was changing literally by the hour and when we had information, we made it public but then sometimes we had to go back and say we have new information that contradicts it, so I testified for 11 hours. Anybody who watched that and listened to it knows that I answered every question that I was asked and when it was over, the Republicans had to admit they didn’t learn anything. Why? Because there had already been one independent investigation, there had been seven or eight congressional investigations, mostly led by Republicans who all reached the same conclusions, that there were lessons to be learned and this is not the first time we lost Americans in a terrorist attack. We lost 3,000 people on 9/11. We lost Americans serving in embassies in Tanzania and Kenya when my husband was President. We lost 250 Americans when Ronald Reagan was President in Beirut and at no other time were those tragedies politicized. Instead, people said let’s learn the lesson and save lives and that’s when I did. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] Notice nothing in Hillary’s answer confirms or denies Smith’s claim that she told her it was because of a video, or explains why Hillary e-mailed Chelsea it was a terror attack. Ramos did what we’ve been waiting for a debate moderator to do all cycle -- follow up on one of Hillary Clinton’s word-salad answers.

RAMOS: But Secretary Clinton, what they’re saying is that -- what the families are saying is that you told your daughter Chelsea one thing and a different thing to them.

CLINTON: Jorge, that makes my point. At the time I e-mailed with my daughter, a terrorist group had taken credit for the attacks on our facility in Benghazi. Within 16, 18 hours, they rescinded taking credit. They did it all on social media. And the video did play a role. We have captured one of the lead terrorists and he admits it was both a terrorist attack and it was influenced by the video. This was fog of war. This was complicated. The most effective, comprehensive reports and studies demonstrate that. Look, as I said in the beginning, I deeply regret that we lost four Americans.

Proof she was lying and knows it and that they knew this was a planned, coordinated attack by terrorists from the very beginning is as follows:

-Michael Morell, former deputy director and acting director of the CIA, wrote in his May 2015 book The Great War of Our Time that while the CIA knew “the demonstration and violence in Cairo were sparked by people upset over a YouTube video,” intelligence “analysts never said the video was a factor in the Benghazi attacks.” (p. 205-206)

-Morell also writes in his book that CIA analysts “complet[ed] their first full report on what happened” and provided it to “senior policy-makers and to Congress on the morning of September 13.” He continues: “The September 13 piece -- the first piece to go beyond a simple factual update -- said four things. First, that the assault on the TMF [Temporary Mission Facility in Benghazi] had been a spontaneous event that evolved from a protest outside the TMF. Second, that the protest and subsequent attack had been motivated by what had happened in Cairo earlier in the day (there was no mention in the piece of the YouTube video defaming the Prophet Muhammad). Third, that there was evidence of extremist involvement in the attack, and by “extremists” the analysts absolutely meant terrorist involvement, because extremist and terrorist are synonyms to terrorism analysts. Indeed, the piece reported, that people with ties to al Qa’ida had been involved in the attack.

Here’s a State Department e-mail from staff on the ground in Tripoli on September 14, three days after the attack, saying that the video hadn’t generated a big response in Libya and specifically asking others to not conflate the attack on Benghazi with the violent protests in Cairo: Here is the email in full, which was referenced in the hearing last week and is now being released publicly for the first time, with appropriate redactions:

From: [redacted]

To: [redacted]

Subject: messaging on the attacks in Libya Date: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:43:39 AM

Colleagues, I mentioned to [redacted] this morning, and want to share with all of you, our view at Embassy Tripoli that we must be cautious in our local messaging with regard to the inflammatory film trailer, adapting it to Libyan conditions. Our monitoring of the Libyan media and conversations with Libyans suggest that the films not as explosive of an issue here as it appears to be in other countries in the region. The overwhelming majority of the FB comments and tweets we’ve received from Libyans since the Ambassador’s death have expressed deep sympathy, sorrow, and regret. They have expressed anger at the attackers, and emphasized that this attack does not represent Libyans or Islam. Relatively few have even mentioned the inflammatory video. So if we post messaging about the video specifically, we may draw unwanted attention to it. And it is becoming increasingly clear that the series of events in Benghazi was much more terrorist attack than a protest which escalated into violence. It is our opinion that in our messaging, we want to distinguish, not conflate, the events in other countries with this well-planned attack by militant extremists. I have discussed this with [redacted] and he shares PAS’s view.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Why does Hillary continue to lie about Benghazi?
Date:   3/10/2016 1:58:04 PM

You found Google.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Nope.......
Date:   3/10/2016 2:03:15 PM

Didn't get that from Google......I have other, more reputable sources.  You should try them.  You might learn something.





Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   Bernie now says free groceries
Date:   3/10/2016 10:14:54 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/03/09/supermarket-lines-in-venezuela-are-so-long-this-musician-performs-full-concerts-for-them/

 





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Nope.......
Date:   3/10/2016 11:28:52 PM

Thanks for the suggestion. I agree it is a great site. Glad I can piggy back on your recommendation.









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