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Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   Today's history lesson
Date:   7/29/2016 2:51:21 PM

And to put a sharper edge on the point:   Hooray for Mr. Khan's son, a Muslim US army officer who gave his life to protect his men in Iraq.   I agree, Mr. Khan, Trump probably never has read the constitution.... and he has certainly sacraficed nothing for this country.  It was moving to hear your words last night.  





Name:   DS Realist - Email Member
Subject:   Today's history lesson
Date:   7/29/2016 4:28:05 PM

I noticed that you did not show where the deficit stood when he took office:  has gone from 10.6 trillion to 19.4 trillion.  Will most likely be double when he leaves office.

And yet there were news reports yesterday that home ownership is at a 51 year low, even with interest rates at all time lows.

In terms of the Unaffordable Care Act, we have penalized 97% of the work force to include 2-3% of people who were uninsured.  Case in point, my local buddy had a heart attack recently, got a stint put in, and then found out his part of the bill is $25K.  He also found out that before the Unaffordable Care Act, his part would have been closer to $4K.  Yeah, that is real progress.

Maybe you need to also post all the accomplishments of Hillary Clinton while she was a senator.  In 8 years in the Senate, she does not have much to show for it.

You also forgot to post all the shootings that have occurred under Obama, the hundreds of times he has played golf during his 7 years (as of January 2016 he has played 270 rounds of golf or about 38 rounds a year), how he has pardoned more inmates than the last 3 presidents combined, and his abuse of Executive Orders.  Here is a guy who campaigned to bring folks together; he could not do that; so he took to doing Executive Orders.  If we elect another do nothing president, then it will be a sad state of affairs in the US.

The stats are nice, but really how much of any of that did he or any other president have a hand in.  And if the economy is so great, then why do the feds have to keep interest rates so low to keep the economy going?





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Today's history lesson
Date:   7/29/2016 4:54:40 PM

I don't know how consumer confidence could be at 98 %, when every month manufacturing companies are not making their forecast.  We're still in Iraq, we're still in Afghanistan, Guantanemo is still open, now we are in Syria, these wars are not being funded by any kind of budget process.  And unemployment is only those who are still looking for jobs and doesn't count those who are out of work and have ceased to look for work.  Two friends of mine are insured under the ACA.  They were insured before, but now they have a $4000 deductible.  This doesn't talk about the greater divide between the races.  It doesn't talk about wanting to take in more refugees, when we have homeless veterans, and they can't even get their promised healthcare from the VA.  Obama gave millions of dollars to Africa on his and Michelle's trips over there, and money given to Africa will be siphoned off by corrupt govenrments, and war lords. 

I voted for Obama twice, but I have not seen the change he promised.  Hilary will do nothing more than continue the gridlock that is our Government, who can't even pass a budget to operate our damn govenment.  And Occupy Democrats is nothing more than a loose group of groups with their own axes to grind.  These are the same people who camped out in a park to pickett meetings at the world bank.





Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   Today's history lesson
Date:   7/29/2016 5:08:42 PM

No, the stats described the deficit as a percentage of the Gross Domestic Product, a valid and much better way to describe this astronomical number in relative terms.   We've made significant progress since the last GOP left office leaving Obama to rescue the banking system and large sectors of the US economy.

No, the Affordable Care Act has not penalized 97% of American workers... it has allowed some 15 million of us to get (and keep) health insurance.   Sorry about what happened to your friend, but one case doesn't prove anything.   Having worked with people's health insurance all my career, most of the bad stories I heard were the result of bad policies sold to them by insurance companies... policies whose fine print they did not understand.   Bearing in mind that the ACA is still a marketplace where consumers are expected to make choices, and not the single payer system I had hoped for....  it's entirely possible that the choices he made contributed to the expenses he incurred.  

You should refer to the experiences of the NYC first responders after 9/11 for information on HRC's accomplishments in the Senate.   Without her efforts, many of them would have suffered uninsured medical conditions related to the health hazards at ground zero.   It may not have meant much to anyone around here, but it was pretty important to them.

And everytime there was a mass shooting during Obama's administration, he attempted to persuade congress & the conservative gun lobby that we needed to do something about assault weapons on the streets... a position echoed by many of the Police Chiefs in this country, I might add.   Conservatives opposed and won that fight each time.   And I don't know how many rounds of golf he played, nor should anyone care.   That's as irrelevent as talking about what he ate for breakfast.   Mass shootings weren't Obama's fault, anymore than they were yours.

You are certainly right, we don't need to elect a do-nothing President.  But I'd have to say that if congress hadn't been stacked with people who are more concerned with defeating a Black President than running a country, congressmen who seem to believe that dinosaurs and men walked together in a world that is only 6000 years old... then we wouldn't have the grid lock that has hampered Obama.   Who, by the way, hasn't used executive orders any more than any president before him.... Republican or Democrat.





Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   So much BS in one post
Date:   7/29/2016 6:17:57 PM

Its not one story about Obamacare.  I have a couple of friends with the exact same experience.  Deductibles and premiums both quadrupled. But the real whopper is that first responders had uncovered medical expenses.  Give me a break! Show me ONE first responder without excellent insurance and If they were conditions related to work at group d zero workman's comp would pick up the tab. Did some get sick? Yes.  We're they uninsured.  HE'LL NO.

A little story.  All those firefighters who refused for weeks to give up the hunt for survivors weeks after the attack were filing OVERTIME for volunteering o  their days off.  Now I'm sure you are going to deny this but it is a fact. Not everybody who puts on a uniform is a hero and to say they are diminishes those who really are.

As for guns,  everybody with connected brain cells knows that idiot leftist like yourself won't be happy until all guns are confiscated.  PLEASE show me a NON-ASSAULT WEAPON.  That is the definition of an oxymoron. Assault weapon was defined by piglosi and dingy Harry flipping through a catalog and picking out which guns looked most viscous and adding them to the ban.  Like Ole uncle Joe I have a shotgun. It is a semi-auto like my AK and AR.  Should it be banned too? But unlike crazy uncle Joe I won't go shoot it out the back door to try and scare the bad guys away.  And just a little bragging,  I am deadly as he'll with that gun. I once killed 3 out of five deers that ran by at 60-80 yards. Of course it only holds five shells but I can feed them I  abiut as quick as I can shoot them out. Just as fast if I don't care about accuracy.

I can't wait till we have President Trump I  office.  It's gonna be so much fun watching you and your retarded brothers Archie's head explode on a daily basis when he starts getting stuff done.  After all,  you just defended executive order government so remember that when he elects a YUGE Wallander maybe he will brand the white house with a big TRUMP sign on the lawn. Maybe he will stay in the NYC towers and turn the white house into a true presidential suite and use the income to help retire the debt. Biliary only rented the one bedroom and that was for personal gain.





Name:   DS Realist - Email Member
Subject:   Today's history lesson
Date:   8/1/2016 6:25:25 PM

Nice try and blaming congress, but the President stressed in all his campaign stops that he can bring both sides together to get things done.  The only thing he can seem to bring together is 3 other folks to play golf with him every day.









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