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Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Someone that knows when to walk away
Date:   9/15/2016 3:41:00 PM

And that would be Ivanka Trump, Donald's daughter.  I was just reading that she had an interview with Cosmo magazine, to discuss her father's child care policy.  Instead the interviewer went off on a tangent  and started questioning her about other campaign promises that Trump has made.  Ivanka warned the interviewer that she thought that those questions were coming from a negative place and that she was there to talk about the child care policy.  When the interviewer persisted.  Invanka ended the interview. 

This is the kind of person that we need sitting at the negotiation table for the U.S.  I suspect she has learned this from her father.





Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   Someone that knows when to walk away
Date:   9/15/2016 5:36:09 PM

Wait a minute.  I thought this election was to be about throwing out all the family dynasties in American Politics.   Are we supposed to be thinking that Ivanka will be in this administration, too?   That's important news to consider.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Someone that knows when to walk away
Date:   9/15/2016 5:47:32 PM (updated 9/15/2016 5:54:04 PM)

OK Hound, having drunk the Trump Kool Aide you are fair game for the hypocrisy test...would you be congratulating Hillary Clinton or a major surrogate if she or they were being interviewed about Hillary's childcare proposals but walked away when the questions deviated from childcare to emails or Bengazi or the Clinton Foundation or pneumonia?  I understand Trump's son was removed by a campaign aid from an interview today when the questions got uncomfortable... Do you give him a pass too?  What if it had been Chelsea Clinton?

Harry Truman said a lot of stuff that made a lot of sense with ''if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen'' being  pretty close to the top!  In my opinion we better send negotiators to the table who can take the heat too, rather than some egotist bully who will take his or her ball and go home if he or she ''feels'' insulted or subject to ''unfair'' questions! 





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Copper-krap*
Date:   9/15/2016 5:52:30 PM

Your post is about as silly and stupid as anything you've ever posted.....and that's saying something!!!





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Copper-krap*
Date:   9/15/2016 5:55:43 PM

This is coming from the forum's foremost expert on posting stupid comments!!





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Arch-I-krap*
Date:   9/15/2016 6:04:00 PM (updated 9/15/2016 6:06:50 PM)

Well you know, Ivanka could have taken THE HILDA B.....H's approach of dealing with the press....just don't show up.  HILDA's been doing that for months and months.  BTW, Ivanka has more intelligence, class, and talent in her little finger than everyone in the HILDA campaign.





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Copper-krap*
Date:   9/15/2016 6:08:39 PM

WOW, ARCHIDIOT, COMING FROM YOU THAT IS QUITE A COMPLEMENT!!!





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   [Message deleted by author]
Date:   9/15/2016 6:54:21 PM (updated 9/15/2016 6:55:02 PM)




Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Link to Ivanka article....
Date:   9/15/2016 6:54:46 PM

Just for your personal consumption:

 

Link:  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/15/cosmo-interviewer-savages-ivanka-trump-softballs-chelsea-clinton.html





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Someone that knows when to walk away
Date:   9/15/2016 8:23:45 PM

You know, if it happened to anyone, I would think they were smart to walk away.  If Hilary were being interviewed for her child care policy and the interviewer went all over the place about other topics, then I think she would be right to do so.  But in this case, I guess the comparable would be Chelsea and I would hope too, that she would walk away.  Media complains that they can't get an interview, but this is exactly why people get reluctant to deal with the media.  Particularly, when you aren't the candidate.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   P.S.
Date:   9/15/2016 8:26:32 PM

Negotiations and interviews are two completely different things. But even in negotiations, there is a time when you walk away from the table, if only for a while. Presumably in negotiations both parties have something to lose or gain.  In interviews, I think it is almost always presumed that the interviewee will be subject to anything the media feels like asking.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   P.S.
Date:   9/16/2016 6:31:53 AM

You are right about negotiations...there is a time when you walk away, but it is not when somebody asks a tough question or seems to ''disrespect'' you.  Likewise you don't go to war because somebody flips you a bird.  The Donald not only says he would do both but brags about it.  That is not acceptable for you or me and certainly not for a president.  Hillary would not do either.





Name:   HARRY - Email Member
Subject:   P.S.
Date:   9/16/2016 9:03:12 AM

No Archie, just make them think that you might go to war if they flip you a bird. 





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   P.S.
Date:   9/16/2016 9:07:29 AM (updated 9/16/2016 9:14:10 AM)

Are you willing to gamble the planet that that is Donald's intention?  I'm not.

It is becoming apparent that the more reasonable people supporting Trump do not believe he will actually do what he says, his ''deplorables'' supporters think he will, and the Clinton supporters don't really know and, wisely, are not interested if finding out.





Name:   rude evin - Email Member
Subject:   P.S.
Date:   9/16/2016 9:20:49 AM

Archy....you don't know any more what Illary would than I know what the Don would do......but keep dreaming your illusion, it probably helps you sleep at night.

She was more concerned about what the soldiers would WEAR, than saving their lives on that dastardly night in Libya....





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Architect
Date:   9/16/2016 10:06:09 AM

I gather from your response that you have never been in tough negotiation.  There are many strategies to deal with a difficult negotiation.  I know you have never worked in Washington, but the adage that when someone asks you a tough question you don't want to answer, answer one that you do want to talk about.  But you have to negotiate from a position of strength.  When the negotiation turns in a way that you are not comfortable with, sometimes you terminate the discussion and walk away, and this lets the other side know that you will not go there.  While you always aim for a fair deal, you never apologize and slink away.  You stand your ground. 

Trump does a lot of posturing, which I assume he does to let world leaders know that the U.S. apology tour will be over if he is elected.  Remember, you have to start strong and you can back off later.  (this also works when you are a manager, BTW)  But one thing you never do is draw a line in the sand and not do what you say you will do when it is crossed. That is not coming from a position of strength. 

You don't know what Hilary might do, any more than we can be 100% sure of what Trump will do.  But no doubt you remember "mutual inihation (not sure about that spelling)"  I know that you like to paint him as a maniac, but I'm not concerned in the least about him having the nuclear codes.  And he grew up during the cold war, just like we did. But it is always a good idea to let potential enemies think that you are willing to go toe-to-toe with them.  And I feel confident that Trump will never be disrespected the way the Chinese and the President of the Phillipines will never disrespect Trump as they so recently did to Obama.  And Obama didn't stand up - so he lost "face" points for not only himself, but for the whole country.  People like to say that Trump doesn't understand foreign policy, but guess what?  Neither does Obama and neither does Hilary, because they would never lose face like that have, if they did.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Architect
Date:   9/16/2016 11:08:40 AM (updated 9/16/2016 11:15:49 AM)

My point is that I do not feel we need a president who considers insults a valid way to do business or run for office and who states publicly that he is a believer but has never done anything for which he needs to ask God's forgiveness and says that he understands policy questions "better than anybody, better than anybody" and says therefore "I alone" am qualified to deal with the nation's problems. If he wins I hope you are right but I fear that I am.

I have perhaps never been in a "tough" negotiation but I have argued Architectural fees and Real Estate purchase or selling prices and have on occasion walked away from the table, but I always left with a handshake rather than flipping a bird or a profane insult!





Name:   rude evin - Email Member
Subject:   Architect
Date:   9/16/2016 11:18:36 AM

There is good news for you Archy.....if Trump wins, you can always take the Striesand pledge and leave for greener pastures!!





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Archi-krap
Date:   9/16/2016 12:16:37 PM

The cactus in Mexico are beautiful this time of year.....leave early......





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Architect
Date:   9/16/2016 9:29:11 PM

You have never negotiated until you have negotiated with the Brits.  You can spend a week discussing one sentence and then when you think you are in agreement, they want to revisit it. 

Okay so leave the table with a handshake - it's a matter of style, but when you do that, you have just let the other side know that you aren't firm in your position. 

I've never negotiated with the Russians, but I know people that have, and I was told that Russians will take a position and refuse to move on it.  Americans are at a disadvantage, because culturally, we want people to like us, and we expect to compromise to do that. 

You know, in Asia it is called "face", in the Middle East it is called "honor" and in South America it is called Machismo, but what they all have incommon is that you never want to lose it.   The Chinese just slapped Obama in the face, as did Phillipines President.  Some people probably think that Obama did the right thing by turning the other cheek.  But he didn't.  He lost face, honor, Machismo.  We lose face, etc, when we continue to fight wars that we will not win with our current stategy.  And that is what I see we will have with Hilary.  It will be hard enough for her to get respect from male world leaders (they'll be nice to her, but they won't listen to her), but I don't believe she will take a hard line stand and get tough.  She'll do what Obama does.  What Kerry does.  And the time is not right for her socialist ideas.  We can't afford her expansionist ideas right now - because before we start creating new programs, or expanding programs, we need to figure out what to do and fix the economy. 





Name:   DS Realist - Email Member
Subject:   Architect
Date:   9/19/2016 5:17:35 PM

If she does what Obama does, then she will need a lot of hand holding like Colin Powell said was required when she was in the state department.  Will she bow to the Saudi royalty like Obama did?

 









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