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Name:   Old Diver - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/23/2016 8:32:48 PM

This is the best plan I have heard in a long time! Trump is trying to do something for America not using their office to line their own pockets as some have reciently done

 

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJniAA4m7Bo





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 8:32:26 AM

Actually I like some of what he said but wonder where the money comes from.  The problem is he is too stupid or so unable to control his own egotistical rage that he, as ALWAYS steps on his own lines by saying the dumb stuff first and drowning out everything else he says afterward.  That narcisstic anger and lack of control is enough to drive still more voters to the blank ballot or to swallow hard and vote for the flawed but more sane and stable opposition choice.  Trump continues to prove he does not have the temperment to be the most powerful individual in today's world!





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 10:08:11 AM

And yet, Bob Woodward of the WaPo stated yesterday that the Clinton Foundation/State Department/Speaking fees are all intertwined and CORRUPT and scandal worthy. His quote not mine.   Where do you draw the line in holding your elected officials accountable?  They get rich off of all of us and you are fine with this?  You want them in the White House, where it was described during the Clinton years as a "pay your money and go through the doors" environment.  Boy, have our standards fallen for elected officials.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 11:20:24 AM

Yeah when he was a former assymbleman on the republican ticket till the Grinch ( gingrich ) made him have to change his party to valueless.

 





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 1:22:17 PM

I draw the line at not electing people who are borderline crazy and obviously unstable, not whether they are politicians and therefore pretty much by definition prone to questionable dealings.  If Trump had been in politics for 30 years, based on his verifiable history in the private sector, I suspect his record would be far more in question than Clinton's.  Clinton is certainly prone to obfuscate and sugar coat her record, but there has not to date been any verifiable vidence that she did anything illegal...letting somebody sit at the head table in return for a contribution is neither illegal nor unethical if it does not go beyond that act.  as for ''Foundations'', I suspect the strongest Trump supporter would cringe at the thought of a comparison of the benefits to humanity of the Clinton and Trump equivalents...providing antiviral drugs to as many as 10% of the Aids patients in Africa is a bit more ambitious than buying a portrait of Donald Trump to put in one of his properties or giving money to the re-election campaign of an Attorney General who is considering an investigation of your ''University''!  The unaffiliated and independant group that rates charities say the Clinton Foundations use 90%+ of funds for aid to recepiants.  They do not even rate Trump's group because they do not considerate it a legit organization!

Vote for Trump if you think his stands are more in line with your politics, but do not try to polish a record and a personal character that is beyond redemption.





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 2:40:56 PM

yeah, I suppose that the words scandal, corrupt, liar, Benghazi, emails, Catholics, evangelicals, pay for play, Morrocco 12 mil, Qatar, email deletion, liar, did I say liar?, campaign violence organizer, slanderer, all fall under your qualifications for politicians that you want representing you.   Archie, the standards you hold for those who seek public office are a reflection of your own.  Most of this forum's participants set their bar a little higher.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 3:03:31 PM (updated 10/24/2016 3:23:32 PM)

I find it laughable you want to say that had he been in office that his record would be worse - and want to judge him based on what he would have done had he been a politican, while excusing an actual politican of well everything.

Talk about orwellian.  Sheesh better get the tin foil hats out to make sure that arch-villian can not scan your brains and make assumptions as to what you would have done.

Maybe thats why he is so crazy - spends all his time seeing that the latest fetus that was not allowed to live would have been the next Hitler. We should just be able to do away with the entire justice department and replace it with you. ( that is sarcasm if you didnt catch it, not an endorsement of your abilities )

 

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=55710

FACT CHECK: Hillary Said 90% of Clinton Foundation Donations go to Charity. Actual Number? 5.7%

 Hell Snopoes dont even look like they wanted to touch that one.

The Clinton Foundation spent a hair under $91.3 million in 2014, the organization’s IRS filings show. But less than $5.2 million of that went to charitable grants.

http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2014/311/580/2014-311580204-0c3ee98d-9.pdf

let me guess their tax returns are forged and republican hit pieces?

 

 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 3:08:23 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/23/news/clinton-laureate-university/

Yup that Trump U errr Clinton U and a 17.6 Million dollar payout to Bill.

There is no shortage of connections between the Clintons and Laureate International Universities. Laureate is a for-profit university -- the same kind Hillary Clinton has railed against for saddling students with huge debts.

"[Students] find little support once they actually enroll, or they graduate and discover that, when it comes to finding a job, their degree isn't worth what they thought," she told an audience last year.

Laureate has faced investigations in Brazil over whether students were getting what they paid for, and in Chile concerning its for-profit status. U.S. students have complained the school failed to deliver on its promised degree programs.

Sheesh you want to piss and moan about a painting vs 17.6 million dollars for use of the Clinton name.

Continue on you good little democrat.

 

 

 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 3:17:37 PM

but the Clinton Foundation does such wonderful things for aids patients

 

http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/16/clinton-foundation-spent-6-percent-charitable-grants-2014/

 

and I do not see Haiti who has first hand knowledge of the help the Clintons have gave lining up after the Hurricane.

 

According to the National Review:

“Bill Clinton was the designated UN representative for aid to Haiti. Following the earthquake, Bill Clinton had with media fanfare established the Haiti Reconstruction Fund. Meanwhile, his wife Hillary was the U. S. secretary of state, in charge of U.S. aid allocated to Haiti. Together the Clintons were the two most powerful people who controlled the flow of funds to Haiti from around the world.”

In 2015, Vice.com sent an investigative reporter to Haiti, who was shocked to find Haiti still devastated 5 years after the earthquake, with many people homeless or living in self-made shacks, without running water or plumbing, despite the $10 billion in relief aid pledged around the world.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/hurricane-matthew-clintons-haiti/

 

and you wish to hype the AIDS program !!!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/19/exclusive-clinton-foundation-aids-program-distributed-watered-down-drugs-to-third-world-countries/

Former President Bill Clinton and his Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) distributed “watered-down” HIV/AIDs drugs to patients in sub-Saharan Africa, and “likely increased” the risks of morbidity and mortality, according to a draft congressional report obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.


 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 3:26:58 PM

I am not trying to polish a businessman who is attempting to run for president, but I for d&mn sure not trying to polish the Tu~d that is Clinton.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   [Message deleted by author]
Date:   10/24/2016 7:09:19 PM (updated 10/24/2016 7:09:46 PM)




Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 7:09:33 PM

I believe on Nov 9 you and all the other holier than thou crowd on this forum will find that most American's hold a higher bar than the dung hole Donald Trump has dug and is trying to pull this nation into.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 7:13:33 PM

No you idiot.  I judge what he is likely to do in public by the disgraceful record he has displayed in the private sector, in his private life and in his public and private words and actions.  If you think you can judge Clinton based on the past, why do you not think it is wise to do the same for Trump?





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/24/2016 7:32:57 PM

I will not even dignify your rantings about abortion...''tell a lie enough times and it eventually will be accepted as the truth''...Joseph Goebbels.

The Clinton Foundations DO use 90% of income for charitable services, but only 7% of that total is through GRANTS to outside groups and is so reported for tax purposes while the remainder IS USED FOR SERVICES directly administered by the foundation.  That is a FACT whether you and sleazbag Julian Assange like it or not...look it up if you dare!  I suppose you think a Foundation should spend other peoples money on potraits of egomaniacs for private display and buying off politicians rather than providing services to Aids patients and providing clean water to millions.  I suggest you check with George H W and Barbara Bush for another opinion on the Clinton Foundations!! 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   New Gettysburg Address
Date:   10/25/2016 1:31:34 PM

I will not even dignify your rantings about abortion...''tell a lie enough times and it eventually will be accepted as the truth''...Joseph Goebbels. - think you can just apply this one to yourself.  

That is because you can not argue with a fact, and since when is posting a simple fact about when a unborn can survive outside the womb considered a rant?  

I am all for abortion, just not with tax dollars.

You will Judge someone based on what they might do - versus what they did.  Gotcha  - I stand by my comment

 









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