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I just got this....
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7/14/2004 11:07:42 AM
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... and wanted to share it. I dont know if any of you got it or not, if you did ignore it this time, if not, read it!! Very enlightening and disheartening at the same time. And sorry about the blank post below...
The email:
From California State Assemblyman John Campbell
*/Capitol Communication /*
*/Wednesday, June 30th, 2004/**/ /*
*4th of July:* In each of the 4 years that I have been a member of the
state Assembly, we have had many "celebrations" on the Assembly floor.
These "celebrations" are orchestrated by the Democrats who control the
House and often involve singing and dancing. Every one of my 4 years
have seen substantial celebrations of Cinco de Mayo (Commemorates the
Mexican victory over the French at the Battle of Puebla ), St. Patrick's
Day (for the patron Saint of Ireland) and Chinese New Year's Day, among
others. But never once have we celebrated/ //America//'s/ Independence
Day, the 4th of July.
So, this year, Republican Assemblyman Jay LaSuer of San Diego arranged
for Vietnam war hero Admiral Jeremiah Denton to come to California to be
a part of a 4th of July ceremony. As you may know, Admiral Denton was a
Navy pilot in Vietnam who was shot down and spent 8 years in a
Vietnamese prison. In 1966 while in prison, he was interviewed by North
Vietnamese television in Hanoi after torture to get him to "respond
properly." During this interview, he blinked his eyes in Morse code to
spell out the word "torture." He was asked about his support for the
war in Vietnam to which he replied "I don't know what is happening now
in Vietnam, because the only news sources I have are Vietnamese. But
whatever the position of my government is, I believe in it, I support
it, and I will support it as long as I live." Four of his 8 years in
prison were spent in solitary confinement. He later wrote the book
"When Hell was in Session" chronicling his experience in Vietnam.
When he stepped off the plane after being released from prison in 1973,
he said "We are honored to have had the opportunity to serve our country
in difficult circumstances. We are profoundly grateful to our
Commander-in-Chief for this day. God bless America." He was later
elected to the U.S. Senate from his home state of Alabama, becoming the
first retired Admiral ever elected to that body. I could go on and on
about his accomplishments.
Suffice it to say, Jeremiah Denton is unquestionably an American hero.
The Democratic leadership refused to allow him on the Assembly floor and
there will be no 4th of July celebration. A memo from the Democratic
speaker's office said "problems have arisen both with regards to the
spirit, content and participation of various individuals with regard to
the ceremony." Apparently, they said that he did not believe in the
"separation of church and state" and they didn't like the policies he
supported as a United States Senator and therefore they would not allow
him to be on the Assembly floor or to speak.
Upon hearing about this, Governor Schwarzenegger offered his meeting
room last Monday for a ceremony with Admiral Denton. The room was
overflowing with people. Only one elected Democrat was in attendance. A
number of veterans of the last 4 wars were present. Admiral Denton gave
a very moving speech about the 4th of July and about the undeniable
commitment of our founding fathers' to their faith in God. He talked
about how the war on terrorism may be the most difficult war we have yet
fought. And he went on to say that he fears that partisan attacks on
our mission and our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan sound too familiar to
what he experienced in Vietnam. Following his speech, The Governor came
out to personally spend time with him.
Then this American hero, whose debt from us all can never be repaid,
flew home to Alabama.
The Assembly did meet on that day. And we did have a ceremony that
lasted nearly 20 minutes. That ceremony was to celebrate the career of
a reporter from the LA Times on the occasion of his retirement.
Democrats universally praised him as being "balanced." He was allowed to
speak for about 10 minutes. Admiral Denton was no longer in the building.
Four years of Cinco De Mayo and not one recognition of the 4th of July.
An LA Times reporter praised, and the very person whose sacrifice allows
him to express his opinion is banned. It is perverse. It is wrong.
And it is disrespectful to all the men and women in uniform who have
stared death in the face and to those who gave the ultimate sacrifice
for the American people.
Admiral Jeremiah Denton is a hero not because he was politician, but
like all the other men and women of the Armed Forces, because he
defended the ideals set forth with America's independence.
Democrats are always railing about intolerance and discrimination. But
yet in practice, it is they who engage in regular state-sanctioned
discrimination and who are intolerant of the presentation of other
views. Maybe they are worried that people will listen.
I do not send you this to bash Democrats. I send you this to
demonstrate the huge chasm that exists between registered, voting
Democrats, and elected Democrat leadership. I hope those of you who are
not Democrats, will send this to your friends who are. If you are a
Democrat, don't be ashamed. Be angry. Change your party and your
leadership, or leave it.
Fortunately, we do not need the approval of the Speaker of the Assembly
to celebrate our nation's independence this Sunday. Nor do we need his
permission to thank those who fought to give us and to maintain our
freedoms. On this 4th of July, as the burgers cook and the fireworks
fly, let us remember......and give thanks.
As a final offering, I give you a poem that Admiral Denton read to us
this week, through eyes clouded with tears:
It is the soldier, not the reporter,
Who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the soldier, not the poet,
Who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the soldier, not the campus organizer,
Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.
It is the soldier,
Who salutes the flag,
Who serves beneath the flag,
And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
Who allows the protester to burn the flag."
Amen. God bless America.
Until next week, I remain,
Assemblyman John Campbell
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JustAGuy
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I just got this....
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7/15/2004 12:07:45 PM
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Wow ... that is an outrage ....
And I'm sure that the Republican leadership of a state would never treat a venerated ware hero that way. Even if he was a Democratic politician with strong liberal leanings.
Oh ... unless the state was Georgia ... and the Democratic politician was Max Cleland.
You are making my point for me CEO ...... both Republican and Democratic politicians act shamefully.
The only difference is .... you only want to see this problem in Democrats ... and not in your beloved Republicans ...
As always ... just my humble opinion ...
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LifeTime Laker
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Ok lets have a little TRUTH!!
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7/15/2004 1:39:01 PM
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Max Cleland is NOT A WAR HERO!! Disabled veteran YES. HERO? NO!
Details.....
Max was behind the lines delivering equipment to a new radio relay station that was being set up. The last delivery of the day the GI's on station were preparing to drink a few beers. First the said no, but after the chopper started to lift off he changed his mind and told the pilot to put him back on the ground. He spotted a hand grenade and went to pick it up, not knowing it was live.
Now tell me how he compares to a POW who spent 8 years interned in a camp, half in solitary, and was TORTURED DAILY.
I had time I would look for the link to the story of the TRUTH of Max Clelands injuries. It is out there, just look for it. You want find it on any of the liberal media sites however. Are you aware that he DID NOT recieve a Purple Heart for his wounds because they were not during combat, or from enemy fire? HERO? Not even according to HIM. Not at least until he became the media darling of the far left.
I am including the first link of 665 when I Googled "max cleland" +"purple heart". The truth is out there, you just have to look for it. Thankfully a FEW conservative pundits do through Lexix-Nexis.
URL: More on the story of Max Cleland
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BAJ
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Ok lets have a little TRUTH!!
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7/15/2004 1:54:57 PM
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Funny, I always believed that anyone who was willing to serve his (or her) country with military service, especially in times of war, was a hero.
So educate me: does it depend on whether or not they were wounded in combat? Or does it depend on their political leanings instead?
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Ok lets have a little TRUTH!!
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7/15/2004 2:04:35 PM
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Guess it depends on how you define hero. Stretching the truth to further your political ambitions does not qualify as heroism in my little world; regardless of political affiliation.
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LifeTime Laker
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I respectfully disagree.
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7/15/2004 2:21:14 PM
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Hero status is much over used in todays society. All who serve are GREAT AMERICANS, but not all who serve are heros. Just as not all fireman are heros, but you wouldn't know it by watching, listening and reading the media of today. And we wont even talk about sports figures and celebrities that are vaulted to the staus of hero.
A TRUE hero is a hero no matter what political leanings they have, or lack of. By calling all who serve heros, you diminish the status of those that really are.
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LifeTime Laker
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Well Said!!
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7/15/2004 2:22:06 PM
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^5
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lamont
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I respectfully disagree.
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7/15/2004 2:24:10 PM
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Amen. You are now officially my hero.
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Paladin
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I just got this....
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7/15/2004 6:41:18 PM
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I guess assemblyman Campbell didn't think it was necessary to write that the State Assembly was in recess for the fourth of July. To allow his "celebration" would have meant that the lawmakers would have had to vote to reconvene and come to Sacramento for the holiday, rather than spend this important time of celebration at numerous functions in their respective home districts among their constituents. (California is a rather large state geographically you know.) All of the other holidays he mentions are working days and not revered at a level to be an official holiday.
Jeez. Some folks can spin things so much from either side of the aisle that it makes you dizzy.
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LifeTime Laker
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Talk about spin...
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7/15/2004 10:25:13 PM
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.... yours was a good attempt. I guess you didn't read these paragraphs:
The Democratic leadership refused to allow him on the Assembly floor and there will be no 4th of July celebration. A memo from the Democratic
speaker's office said "problems have arisen both with regards to the
spirit, content and participation of various individuals with regard to
the ceremony." Apparently, they said that he did not believe in the
"separation of church and state" and they didn't like the policies he
supported as a United States Senator and therefore they would not allow
him to be on the Assembly floor or to speak.
Upon hearing about this, Governor Schwarzenegger offered his meeting
room last Monday for a ceremony with Admiral Denton. The room was
overflowing with people. Only one elected Democrat was in attendance. A
number of veterans of the last 4 wars were present. Admiral Denton gave
a very moving speech about the 4th of July and about the undeniable
commitment of our founding fathers' to their faith in God. He talked
about how the war on terrorism may be the most difficult war we have yet
fought. And he went on to say that he fears that partisan attacks on
our mission and our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan sound too familiar to
what he experienced in Vietnam. Following his speech, The Governor came out to personally spend time with him.
Then this American hero, whose debt from us all can never be repaid,
flew home to Alabama.
The Assembly did meet on that day. And we did have a ceremony that
lasted nearly 20 minutes. That ceremony was to celebrate the career of
a reporter from the LA Times on the occasion of his retirement.
Democrats universally praised him as being "balanced." He was allowed to speak for about 10 minutes. Admiral Denton was no longer in the building.
Nice try, but obviuosly your spin has no merit in FACT!! I know that facts are really hard for liberals to deal with because they never seem to back up your spin.
But hey, thanks for playing, and try again another day.....
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Talk about spin...
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7/16/2004 2:50:32 AM
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IMHO, if the only way you can make Bush and the national Republican party good is by bashing the opposition, then you really don't have much to work with and are using an inferior method to make Bush look good. Trying to make one of two 'evils' appear lesser obscures the fact that both are still 'evil'. (and that's meant figuratively, not literally evil)
A good administration should stand on its on merit without bashing the other party. However, most folks know that regardless of how honorable Bush's intentions and efforts are, he still comes up short. I guess there are a lot of desparate people out there putting a lot of spin on Bush trying to make him look good -- and you're just one of them. ;-)
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lamont
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Talk about spin...
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7/16/2004 7:24:55 AM
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Classic Chazz. You get on the "high and mighty" about bashing then, you utter these classic words; "desperate people" and "you're just one of them". No irony in that post. Congrats.
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Not to mention the post had nothing to do with Bush. Only the general attitude of democrats across the country. They are supposed to be so tolerant and inclusive, yet are the most intolerate and and exclusionary.
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"This is quite a group we have here: the haves, and the have-mores. Some call you the "elite;" I call you my base."-- George W. Bush
Tells me allI need to know about this particular Republican, and those who think he walks on water. At least h eknows who butters his bread, and he takes good care of them... at the >>exclusion<< of the working class.
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Paladin
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Talk about spin...
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7/16/2004 10:54:08 AM
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You make my point. The paragraphs you cite are spin indeed. The State Assembly of California ( equivalent to our House of Representatives ) began Summer recess on July 2 and will reconvene August 2. Please see http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/legislative_calendar.html .
Personally, I think that Senator/Admiral Denton is a great American hero and I'm certain that his remarks at the Governor's event were not only fitting and proper, but also spiritually inspiring. The characterization that the Assembly, as official business, shunned him is spin. I'm sorry, but thats my opinion. BTW, I'm voting for Bush this November, as well as other Republicans and Democrats on the ballot.
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LifeTime Laker
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Talk about spin...
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7/16/2004 11:12:07 AM
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Funny they had time to let an LA times reporter take the floor that day, but not an American hero. Apparently SOMEBODY was there! THAT tells me all I need to know!!
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LifeTime Laker
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Totally out of context.
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7/16/2004 11:17:18 AM
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The "haves and have mores" he was refering too were John Kerry and John Edwards. The "elites" were a bunch of middle class Americans. I don't remember where the speech was given, and dont have the time nor inclanation to look it up for you. Just go back to moveon.org or democraticunderground.org and find a few more misquotes.
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lamont
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So true!!
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7/16/2004 11:26:46 AM
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Oh my God, and Kerry is such a common man's man. Two wives and a half a billion $ later. Yeah man, us working stiffs can certainly identify with that.
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lamont
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So true!!
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7/16/2004 11:31:36 AM
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Oh, I forgot, pass the ketchup please.
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chazzman
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Talk about spin...
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7/18/2004 2:58:38 AM
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Lamont, a good salesman promotes their product's merits and benefits and how they will fulfill the customer's needs. They do not cut down or slight the rival products, because it brings negativity into the interaction and into the customer's consciousness. This is true also when trying to sell a candidate to a citizen.
Bush's administration, like previous administrations, has made some good decisions and some bad decisions. Speaking negative about Kerry-Edwards isn't promoting Bush, it's promoting negativism. Now that's just what America needs...
Desperate? That's for the salespeople who don't have a good product to sell and need to slight their rivals. Bashing? Nope, simply observing the CEO's negativism OR whatever you call that brand of spin. If the shoe doesn't fit....
I think Bush's administration has done some good things and some things that could have been thought thru a little better. I also think that Kerry offers an alternative to those folks who want an alternative -- regardless of their reasons. I haven't read of any past president in history who ruined the USA, thanks to the separations of powers. Our country will survive Bush-Cheney or Kerry-Edwards. There isn't a dimes worth of difference between the two, and neither has the working- or middle-class's interest at heart.
The forum has certainly gotten livelier. LOL!
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lamont
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Talk about spin...
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7/19/2004 9:20:26 AM
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I am not arguing your sales analogy. I have been in sales for 27+ years. However, when you refer to the Bush campaign as being negative towards Kerry, please name me one presidential campaign that did not sling a little mud. The Kerry/Edwards ticket has'nt exactly taken the high road. As a matter of fact, I am still waiting fo them to take any road. Their whole campaign, to date, has simply focused on the fact that he is not Bush. That alone does qualify him as being an alternative although, I am not sure what kind of one.
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Talk about spin...
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7/19/2004 2:36:18 PM
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I have not been the negative one. Pointing out a candidates flaws, flip-flops, and anti-American stance is not 'being negative'. Now calling a man a liar, when you have said the the EXACT same things, is what I would call a liar and negative. I am refering to sKerry's quaotes on Saddam and WMD's and Iraq. In one quote sKerry even refers to saddam as 'an imenent threat'. Bush and/or Cheney never used that strong of a word.
sKerry is a politcal coward and weasal who will say whatever the audience in front of him wants to hear. He has no core values, except to marry well. He 'voted for it, before he voted against it'. Life begins at conception, but you can abort at full term. But hey, he served in Vietnam. Bush released EVERY scrap of his military records and still called a deserter. sKerry refuses to release the records of how he 'earned' his Purple Hearts, but he is a hero.
Quoting a candidate and examining and reporting his record is NOT negative advertising.
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'YOU'RE GOING TO FIND US WORKI
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7/19/2004 2:43:08 PM
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"So here's what we're going to fight for, and we're going to fight for it every single day, not just through this election, but from the day we win until the day we raise our hands and every day thereafter. You're not going to have to look for us on vacation. You're going to find us working for America." --- Kerry Delivers Remarks At Campaign Event, Cleveland, OH, 7/7/04
Kerry has missed more than 80% of Senate votes this year, the AP reports.
Drudge Report 7/19/04
The report is accompanied by 14 photo's of sKerry on variuos 'vacations' during the campaign. From windsurfing to snowboarding. But it is not hipocrosy, cuz he is just showing what an 'every man' he is. I prefer my President on his ranch, doing physical labor, while 'on vacation'
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'YOU'RE GOING TO FIND US WORKI
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7/19/2004 2:55:32 PM
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Classic. And Drudge better quit being so negative or he may suffer a "Chazz" attack.
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LifeTime Laker
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Warning Went to Clnton
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7/19/2004 3:22:18 PM
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Read the link below to see who was warned of hijack threats and bears the burden of not taking appropiate action.
URL: Read the full story here....
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BAJ
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Totally out of context.
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7/19/2004 5:22:41 PM
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Actually, I have to disagree with you on this one. I was pretty sure-- so I did look it up-- that this was said during the 2000 campaign, at an election fundraiser, to people who had paid $800 per plate to attend. I found several references to this quote (some pro-GOP, some anti-Bush, but a definnite mix), and not once did any source say that GWB was speaking to anyone besides those who were in attendance, and about no one else, either-- especially not Kerry/Edwards, since they are not who he was was running against in 2000.
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LifeTime Laker
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Totally out of context.
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7/19/2004 7:12:55 PM
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I did a little research too. A similar comment was made recently but the one referenced was by Bush. I thought it was this cycle but maybe not. But even at that, it is still out of context. It was said, tongue in cheek during a humorous speech that he gave. The most frequent reference, using Google, was in moores mockumentary. Which IMHO totally vindicates the remarks. Do you think that if it were said in any serious context, the democrats would not be using it to the FULLEST.
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chazzman
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Talk about spin...
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7/20/2004 1:19:50 AM
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"...name me one presidential campaign that did not sling a little mud..."
They all do which is a big turn off to many people about any politician who slings it. And because they all do, doesn't make it right. Where's a leader when you need one, rather than a follower?
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Any time I hear a Republican talks about a Democrat, or vice versa, I tune them out.
For example your statement, "...The Kerry/Edwards ticket has'nt exactly taken the high road. As a matter of fact, I am still waiting fo them to take any road..."
While your statement about the high road not being taken may be true, the rest of the statement is not accurate according to CSPAN and other media outlets. Are you promoting misinformation? AND expecting most of the forums readers to not know the difference. If this is the case, it tells me something about you, rather than the campaign.
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chazzman
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Talk about spin...
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7/20/2004 1:28:14 AM
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"...I have not been the negative one..."
"sKerry is a politcal coward and weasal who will say whatever the audience in front of him wants to hear. He has no core values..."
Fooled me, LOL!!!! I was certain such a statement about one's opponent would be considered negative.
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chazzman
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'YOU'RE GOING TO FIND US WORKI
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7/20/2004 1:30:27 AM
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A 'Chazz' attack? Hey that's neat. Thanks! LOL!!!
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'YOU'RE GOING TO FIND US WORKI
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7/20/2004 7:19:13 AM
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You're a good sport Chazzman.
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lamont
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Talk about spin...
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7/20/2004 8:16:11 AM
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Please, please Chazzman, enlighten me. Fill me in on Kerry's platform. Where does he stand on the issues; international security, the economy, taxes, abortion, Etc. And after you are finished, be ready to repost same time tomorrow because all of the above-mentioned is likely to change.
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He takes a FIRM stand....
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7/20/2004 10:23:39 AM
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... at the alter with VERY WEALTHY WOMEN. Who happen to support several left-wing radical groups.
But he is a good Catholic. He had his first 18 year marriage annulled so he could marry a richer woman. In other words, his first marriage never existed in the eyes of the law and God. Kinda like the way he wants us to veiw his Senate record. Always consistently vote to slash millitary and intellegence budgets, and now whine that they don't do a good job (by his skewered view).
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He takes a FIRM stand....
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7/20/2004 11:06:05 AM
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And that's just when he decides to show up for a vote. Imagine what his voting record would look like had he decided to cast votes the other 80% of the time. We would really have fodder for discussion. Given his record and future aspirations, perhaps there was a method to his madness. Kind of like J. Carter. I still sincerely believe his path to the White House was paved by total ignorance of what the man was about due to his do-nothingness as the governor of Georgia.
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He takes a FIRM stand....
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7/20/2004 11:47:52 AM
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I've heard rumors of her support of radical left-wing groups, but most of them seem to be just that-- rumors.
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He takes a FIRM stand....
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7/20/2004 12:05:09 PM
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With all of her SUVs, I'm sure it's not the environmental wackos!
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He takes a FIRM stand....
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7/20/2004 12:06:47 PM
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Check out the money that the Heinz Corp. donates to the Tides Foundation and what groups they support. Very interesting, to say the least. Now, since the $ are coming from the Heinz Corp., it appears, the claims are, that this eliminates her personal involvement. Who knows for sure. Will be very interesting.
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He takes a FIRM stand....
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7/20/2004 12:46:40 PM
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Teresa Heinz Kerry: Bag Lady for the Radical Left
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 13, 2004
"...Teresa Heinz Kerry has financed the secretive Tides Foundation to the tune of more than $4 Billion over the years. The Tides Foundation, a “charity” established in 1976 by antiwar leftist activist Drummond Pike, distributes millions of dollars in grants every year to political organizations advocating far-Left causes. The Tides Foundation and its closely allied Tides Center, which was spun off from the Foundation in 1996 but run by Drummond Pike, distributed nearly $66 million in grants in 2002 alone. In all, Tides has distributed more than $300 million for the Left. These funds went to rabid antiwar demonstrators, anti-trade demonstrators, domestic Islamist organizations, pro-terrorists legal groups, environmentalists, abortion partisans, extremist homosexual activists and open borders advocates..."
"...Tides Foundation is a major source of revenue for some of the most extreme groups on the Left. Tides allows donors to anonymously contribute money to a host of causes; the donor simply makes the check out to Tides and instructs the Foundation where to forward the money. Tides does so, for a nominal fee. Drummond Pike told The Chronicle of Philanthropy, “Anonymity is very important to most of the people we work with.” That becomes understandable when one views the list of Tides grant recipients. And who are the beneficiaries of this money?
The Antiwar Movement
"The grant recipients of the Tides Foundation, to which Kerry’s wife has steered more than $4 billion in “charitable” funds, understand no such nuance.
Tides established the Iraq Peace Fund and the Peace Strategies Fund to fund the antiwar movement. These projects fueled such hysterical protest organizations as MoveOn.org, the website that recently featured two separate commercials portraying George W. Bush as Adolf Hitler. (Howard Dean, not Kerry, won MoveOn.org’s “virtual primary.”)
The antiwar movement often boasted that MoveOn.org and the radical website Indymedia provided them “alternate media coverage.” Indymedia, an enormous news and events bulletin board with local pages in most of the world’s major cities, provided a vital link for radical activists often with violent agendas to coordinate their protests. Indymedia received $376,000 from the Tides Foundation.
The Institute for Global Communications is another leftist communications facilitator that received Tides grant money. IGC, which during the 1990s was the leading provider of web technology to the radical Left, links to “recommended sites” such as the War Resisters League (a group whose purpose is enabling peaceniks to refuse to pay taxes) and the leftist American Friends Service Committee. Most disturbing is the link to Ramsey Clark’s International Action Center, which has supported Slobodan Milosevic and North Korean strongman Kim Jong-Il. The IAC is the force behind International ANSWER, which sponsored the major antiwar (and anti-Bush) rallies before the invasion of Iraq. When ANSWER was outed as a Communist organization, United for Peace and Justice, headed by longtime Communist Party member Leslie Cagan was created as a "moderate" alternative. UFPJ is also a Tides grant recipient.The Tides-funded “A Better Way Project,” which opposed war in Iraq, also coordinated efforts of United for Peace and Justice and the Win Without War Coalition. The celebrity-laden Win Without War Coalition, along with the Bill Moyers-funded Florence and John Schumann Foundation, ran full-page ads in the New York Times opposing the War on Terrorism. This will not be the last overlapping of far-Left causes.
The Islamist Front
Immediately after 9/11, Tides formed a “9/11 Fund” to advocate a “peaceful national response” to the opening salvos of war. Part of the half-million dollars in grants the 9/11 Fund dispersed went to the New York Gay and Lesbian Anti-Violence Project to protect the rights of homosexual Arabs. The Foundation replaced the 9/11 Fund with the “Democratic Justice Fund,” which was established with the aid of George Soros’ Open Society Institute. (Currency speculator and pro-drug advocate Soros is, like Teresa Heinz Kerry, a major contributor to Tides, having donated more than $7 million.) The Democratic Justice Fund seeks to ease restrictions on Muslim immigration to the United States, particularly from countries designated by the State Department as “terrorist nations.”
Tides has also given grant money to the Council for American Islamic Relations. Ostensibly a “Muslim civil rights group,” CAIR is in fact one of the leading anti-anti-terrorism organizations within the Wahhabi Lobby, with links to Hamas. CAIR regularly opposes and demonizes American efforts to fight terrorism, claiming, for instance, that Homeland Security measures are responsible for an undocumented surge in “hate crimes.”
CAIR officials have reason to fight Bush’s anti-terrorism measures: all too many CAIR officials are on the record supporting terrorism. CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad openly stated in 1994, “I am a supporter of the Hamas movement.” Community Affairs Director Bassem K. Khafagi has been arrested for visa and bank fraud. Randall Royer, a Communications Specialist and Civil Rights Coordinator at CAIR, was arrested along with a group of Islamic radicals in Virginia for allegedly planning jihad. CAIR has defended terrorist “charities” shut down by the Bush administration. Every few months some CAIR campus official is arrested for aiding and abetting terrorism.
The Legal Matrix
The Tides Foundation has funded a number of the pillars of the radical legal establishment. Chief among these is the National Lawyers Guild, which began as a Commnist front organization and is proud of its lineage. At its recent convention last October, the concluding speaker was Lynne Stewart, an indicted terrorist NLG lawyer arrested for helping her client – convicted 1993 World Trade Center bombing mastermind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman – communicate with his terrorist cells in Egypt. In her speech, Stewart said she and her NLG comrades were carrying on a proud tradition of their forebears, past and present:
And modern heroes, dare I mention? Ho and Mao and Lenin, Fidel and Nelson Mandela and John Brown, Che Guevara who reminds us, “At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love.” Our quests like theirs are to shake the very foundations of the continents.
More recently, the NLG has endorsed the March 20 call to End Colonial Occupation from Iraq to Palestine & Everywhere” organized by International ANSWER, and has posted a petition for “Post-Conviction Relief” for convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal..."
"...Tides also funds the Alliance for Justice, a group dedicated to stopping Bush judicial appointees (a cause John Kerry can agree wholeheartedly endorse). Other Tides grants have gone to the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights and the Asian Law Caucus.
"....Moreover, they will have a close ally in the East Wing of the White House, an ally more intimately tied to them than she is to her (second) husband. (She only adopted his last name and political party registration less than 18 months ago. “Politically, it's going to be Heinz Kerry,” she recently said. “But I don't give a sh-t, you know?”) Teresa Heinz Kerry will play a potent role in saving her second husband’s presidential campaign now – as Hillary Clnton did in 1992, and again
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I guess it all comes down to who you want to believe.
From Urban Legends: http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/bl_teresa_heinz_kerry.htm
...The second half, alleging that Mrs. Kerry has used her vast wealth to support extremist causes — including groups that foster terrorism — through donations to an organization called the Tides Foundation, is false.
While it is a fact that the Heinz Endowments, of which Teresa Heinz Kerry is the chairman, has granted upwards of $8 million through the Tides Center and Tides Foundation since 1994 to fund high school career programs, environmental protection projects and the like in Pennsylvania (see complete list of grants), those funds were not shared by any other causes or organizations connected with Tides, according to administrators.
Heinz Endowments President Maxwell King explains it thus:
First, by legally binding contract, every penny of Heinz’s support to Tides has been explicitly directed to specific projects in Pennsylvania. It cannot legally be redirected and is the exact opposite of fungible.
Second, the Tides Center is a provider of management and administrative services, and we have used it only for those services, not to advance Tides’ grantmaking agenda. Foundations from all across the country-many, like Heinz, with strong centrist agendas-use these services to incubate an array of nonprofit programs. So does the federal government. It is no more accurate to suggest that Heinz supports every one of these programs than it is to suggest that someone who contributes to a specific group through the United Way supports the agenda of every other United Way beneficiary.
Third, the projects we have supported through Tides speak for themselves. They include programs to test the career readiness of area high school students, protect Pittsburgh’s environment and retain young people in our region-hardly an extremist agenda.
Fourth and finally, information about every one of our Tides-related grants is and always has been readily available in our public filings, annual reports and here on our web site. Far from being secretive, we have been consistently open in detailing the nature of our grants to Tides and every other organization we fund.
The Truth About Heinz and Tides
A statement from Heinz Endowments President Maxwell King.
In recent weeks, The Heinz Endowments has been accused of using its funding of the Tides Center of Western Pennsylvania to advance a laundry list of partisan causes and fringe political groups. This accusation is simply wrong.
It originated in an opinion column written by a researcher for the conservative, Washington, D.C.-based Capital Research Center. The crux of CRC’s argument is that money directed by the Endowments to Tides is "fungible." By supporting projects through Tides, CRC alleged that Heinz has secretly funneled money to every other organization that has ever received funding through Tides Center and the separate Tides Foundation.
Since first being published in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, CRC’s accusation has been picked up and expanded in opinion pieces in a number of newspapers, including the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post and the Washington Times. But not even these publications have leveled this allegation in actual news stories.
The reason why is obvious: The charge does not stand up to objective scrutiny. Four facts undercut it completely. First, by legally binding contract, every penny of Heinz’s support to Tides has been explicitly directed to specific projects in Pennsylvania. It cannot legally be redirected and is the exact opposite of fungible.
Second, the Tides Center is a provider of management and administrative services, and we have used it only for those services, not to advance Tides’ grantmaking agenda. Foundations from all across the country-many, like Heinz, with strong centrist agendas-use these services to incubate an array of nonprofit programs. So does the federal government. It is no more accurate to suggest that Heinz supports every one of these programs than it is to suggest that someone who contributes to a specific group through the United Way supports the agenda of every other United Way beneficiary.
Third, the projects we have supported through Tides speak for themselves. They include programs to test the career readiness of area high school students, protect Pittsburgh’s environment and retain young people in our region-hardly an extremist agenda.
Fourth and finally, information about every one of our Tides-related grants is and always has been readily available in our public filings, annual reports and here on our web site. Far from being secretive, we have been consistently open in detailing the nature of our grants to Tides and every other organization we fund.
Throughout its 63-year history, The Heinz Endowments has scrupulously observed both the letter and the spirit of the law barring foundations from partisan activity. That hasn’t changed. These accusations to the contrary are rooted in politics, not fact. They do a disservice to Howard Heinz Endowment chairman Teresa Heinz Kerry, whose stewardship of the Heinz family’s generous philanthropic legacy has been exemplary, and to our 16 other board members and 31 staff. Together, we remain committed to upholding the high ethical standards and proud traditions of one of America’s most respected charitable foundations.
To learn more, please click on the links below:
A complete list of Heinz Endowments grants to Tides and the projects they supported: http://www.heinz.org/files/HP_Digit.pdf
CRC’s original allegation as published in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review on Dec. 14, 2003 - The Heinz Endowments have teamed with a secretive left-wing group: http://www.heinz.org/files/TR-12-14-03.pdf
The Endowments’ response as published in the Dec. 14th Tribune-Review column, Neither extreme nor secretive: http://www.heinz.org/files/HEresponsetoTR-12-21-03.pdf
The Endowments’ response to the Dec. 14th Tribune-Review column, as submitted: http://www.heinz.org/files/HEresponsetoTR-12-21-03assubmitted.pdf
A second column, Playing Ketchup , published in National Review Online and the Tribune-Review, building on the allegation: http://www.heinz.org/files/TR-1-30-04.pdf
The Endowments’ unpublished response to the National Review Online (and the Tribune Review): http://www.heinz.org/files/HEresponsetoNRO2-4-04.pdf
A Tribune-Review editorial published March 12, 2004, Follow the Money, criticizing the Endowments for attempting to respond to the allegations: http://www.heinz.org/files/TR-3-12-04.pdf
The Endowments’ second response , also never published: http://www.heinz.org/files/HEresponsetoTR3-15-04.pdf
The New York Post’s editorial (Mrs.) Kerry’s Cash Connection, published March 9, 2004: http://www.heinz.org/files/NYP3-9-04.pdf
The Endowments’ response: http://www.heinz.org/files/HEresponsetoNYP3-9-04.pdf
The Wall Street Journal editorial, The Politics of 9/11 , published March 10, 2004: http://www.heinz.org/files/WSJ-3-10-04.pdf
The Endowments’ unpublished response: http://www.heinz.org/files/HEresponsetoWSJ-3-11-04.pdf
The Washington Times’ editorial, Active measures , published March 10, 2004: http://www.heinz.org/files/WT3-11-04.pdf
The Endowments’ response, Donations aren’t fungible, published March 13, 2004: http://www.heinz.org/files/HEresponsetoWT3-13-04.pdf
A Pittsburgh Post-Gazette report, Right zooms in on Heinz on where the attacks are coming from, published March 7, 2004: http://www.heinz.org/files/PPG-3-7-04.pdf
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s editorial, Dishing the dirt, published
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7/20/2004 3:25:01 PM
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I guess so. And I choose to beleive the current administration, and not someone that belongs to the party of the former liar in chief. And now the Berger story!! Former NSA advisor, and current sKerry advisor, hid documents in his clothing to smuggle them from the archives. Real integrity.
And of course the left-wing media is doing it's best to hide the story. Just go to Drudgereport.com and see the placement of the stories in the NYTimes and LATimes.
Of course My organization will get the blame for the whole mess (You know the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"). I wonder how many archive employees will have their lives destroyed over this.......
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Talk about spin...
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7/20/2004 3:29:42 PM
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Its those pesky facts again.....
They just continue to get in the way of liberals. If stated the obvious truth is negative, then I am negative. So be it.
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