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Name:   4thelake - Email Member
Subject:   Maintance
Date:   9/1/2004 11:31:07 AM

Id like to see a separate forum for maintance related questions. There are a lot of talented people who live here and know the answers to a lot of basic questions about boats and other things. Ive learned a bunch from "boat specific" web pages and think it may work here as well. It would also let those of us who know a thing or two help those who dont. It may even save those who dont a few dollars it those who do helped them with the work.
IDEAS?



Name:   4thelake - Email Member
Subject:   Maintance
Date:   9/1/2004 11:31:50 AM

Opps Spelled it wrong.



Name:   Rickiray - Email Member
Subject:   Maintance
Date:   9/1/2004 2:09:07 PM

yeah, it would be nice , but whenever I ask a mechanical related question , I get very little response. Anchorbaydon seems to know a fair amount , but when I ask for more specific answers , he sort of clams up. (See engine temp thread from several weeks ago). The Manager at my marina won't even let me ask his technician a simple question. I feel like a parent taking my kid to the pedatrician but not being allowed in the exam room to get informed. Luckily , I don't think I have any real problem with my boat, but according to my friggin gauge , it runs 20 degrees hotter than the manual says it should. Still haven't gotten a straight answer from antbody on that one!



Name:   greycove - Email Member
Subject:   I know you have..
Date:   9/1/2004 3:57:00 PM





Name:   greycove - Email Member
Subject:   Oops..I know you have...
Date:   9/1/2004 4:01:08 PM

thought of a bad thermostat? Could it be defective in that cooling water must be too hot for the thermostat to open? Pretty easy to replace this and not too expensive.

Impellor(sp?) defective?

Seems to me it has to be a water flow problem since you pull from the lake and drop water back in.

Shooting in the dark here.



Name:   JustAGuy - Email Member
Subject:   Call Me the Village Idiot :)
Date:   9/1/2004 5:48:38 PM

Sounds to me like you need to replace the gauge.

:) <== denotes that this post is a joke - please don't flame me



Name:   shirt - Email Member
Subject:   Maintance
Date:   9/1/2004 8:58:59 PM

Who ever mentioned the impeller may have it right. If it is worn down you won't get the flow or cooling you motor requires. It is fairly cheap to replace That is where I would start looking. I usually don't answer these because you typically will get a smart-$$$ that will disagree just to disagree Hope it helps.



Name:   4thelake - Email Member
Subject:   Call Me the Village Idiot :)
Date:   9/1/2004 9:02:58 PM

Just worry about the departure from what is normal now. It could be parasitic draw from old wire. Could just be quality controll from the MGF of the gauge. If it always reads 20 high, when it starts to read 30 high you got a problem. As for the marina....SCREW THEM...They dont want your business anyway. Dont play that game with them. You got a question and they dont want you to talk to the guy in back, there is a reason. The guy in back doesnt know jack, and they dont want you to know it. Go to a differnt place.
Next Question for the boat doctor please.



Name:   4thelake - Email Member
Subject:   Maintance
Date:   9/1/2004 9:05:49 PM

Another possibility. If you do regular maint you should replace the impeller at least once every other year. ERGO you can replace it and if you have the same problem seek another route that is also just as cheap.
read down the string.



Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   Yes
Date:   9/1/2004 10:08:28 PM

the gauge, unless you have had too many glasses of sherry....



Name:   Webmaster - Email Member
Subject:   Maintance
Date:   9/2/2004 12:01:24 AM

I have created a Boat Maintenance forum. You can get to it from the forum entry page or directly to the link below.

URL: Boat Maintenance Forum

Name:   AnchorbayDon - Email Member
Subject:   Maintance
Date:   9/2/2004 8:19:43 AM

My technical knowledge is only so deep. After that, you'll need to see the help of a certified marine mechanic. A lot of people think that, just because they understand car engines and their Mercruiser is a GM block, that its all the same. It is not. Sorry I couldn't go any deeper than that - to do so would not have been good advice for you!



Name:   AnchorbayDon - Email Member
Subject:   Call Me the Village Idiot :)
Date:   9/2/2004 8:26:03 AM

Marinas hire good, experienced mechanics, spend thousands to send them to schools every 6 months to become certified in marine engines and everybody wants access to them to get free advise to avoid paying the marina for providing a professional resource. Have a great day. Make sure you don't overheat!



Name:   4thelake - Email Member
Subject:   Maintance
Date:   9/2/2004 8:59:04 AM

Awsom.
Ancor bay Dan,, I partially aggree with you. Most people excede their pay grade at some time or another. A chat with a mechanic for 2 minuets wont loose you any business. Im not an expert at all. Just a wrench monkey that can solve a lot of baisic questions cause I own a bunch of boats and would go broke if i didnt do a lot of my own stuff. I think you can be a great asset in assisting folks with this kind of stuff. I dont think the average guy wants to pull heads but he certainly can remove his own prop for reapir at a prop shop, and can handle Some winterizing tasks. Please help out on this forum. The more answers the better, even if they are differnt.



Name:   AnchorbayDon - Email Member
Subject:   Maintenance
Date:   9/2/2004 9:53:01 AM

We gladly provide access to our mechanic to our regular customers who store their boat here or have other services performed, but with the investment we have in technicians, healthcare, tools, worker's comp, etc., the only way to recover that cost (and hopefully make a small profit) is to charge for the technician's time. We make it or break it by accounting for the technician's time down to the minute and charging someone for it, whether it be our internal boat sales dept, manufacturer warranties, etc. If we fail to do this, we won't be in business very long.

My time is not accounted for, so I'm free to help out as much as possible, but there is a finite limit to my level of expertise. I have attended/passed the Marine Technical Fundamental course from Mercury/Mercruiser, but I'm years away, in experience, training and interest, from being a certified marine technician.



Name:   4thelake - Email Member
Subject:   Maintenance
Date:   9/2/2004 11:04:23 AM

Dan
What a great way tonot only promote your shop but help people as well. I fully understand your accounting process for time. Tecs are a great asset or a huge liability if not working. I hope we can help folks out with some things and maybe actually get the folks together who can with the ones who can't. Im like you. Ill work in my time off for beer and dinner. Or an RC and a moon pie. Thanks again for being a part of this. Im self taught in a lot of areas and most simple stuff I can answer but to have a regular watching this forum is going to be a great assett to your business and the people on this forum.



Name:   JUA - Email Member
Subject:   Could be the gauge
Date:   9/2/2004 6:04:01 PM

From an electronics background, I can assure you meters often lie.
I'd take a reading near the sensor for the gauge with a stick-on thermometer or a non-contact infrared thermometer and see if they are close. It could be the gauge or sending unit is off by 10 degrees or so. It may also be within the accuracy range of the gauge, though that sounds a little extreme to me. More like 4 or 5 degrees maybe?
Seems like the sensors are close to the front of the engine instead of the elbows, but it has been a while since I've fooled with one.









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