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TH
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"Cut-out" exhausts
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9/21/2004 4:03:22 PM
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If "cut-out" (above water) exhausts are illegal on the lake, how come you hear so many of the dam* things and see them congregated at chimney rock ?
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4thelake
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"Cut-out" exhausts
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9/21/2004 4:14:05 PM
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Didnt realize they are illegal? Is this true?
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Ulysses E. McGill
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I don't have that feature
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9/21/2004 6:05:48 PM
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and I don't care for it either. But I don't think it is illegal........
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Marine Police
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"Cut-out" exhausts
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9/21/2004 10:26:02 PM
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Captain's Call switches themselves are not illegal. However it is a violation of the cut-out law (33-5-23) to run them on the lake in the offshore (non-muffled) position. We all know that boats run that way though. It's just a matter of flipping a switch when the patrol boat is around. I would like to see us pass a law similar to what some other states have that makes it illegal to have "switchable exhaust" on inland bodies of water. That would make enforcement easier on us. Hope that answers the question.
Gary
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JUA
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Just proves...
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9/22/2004 5:23:11 AM
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...you can't legislate common sense. Anyone who has ever heard these useless devices on an inland lake can only conclude they don't belong there. If they are used 50 miles out in the Gulf, who cares? After all, the Air Force and the Navy slams that area with sonic booms all the time. But not normally over inland lakes. Must be a common sense thing.
I've always heard the loud mufflers are an admission of, shall we say, "inadequacies." The louder, the more inadequate.
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shaker
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Just proves...
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9/22/2004 3:31:08 PM
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it seems that since you know sooooo much about loud mufflers?????what does that say about you? I think i speak for all the wives and girlfriends of these MEN and believe me they are in no way "inadequate". but what is the big deal, if you don't like the noise, and it is few and far between, then don't go where they are, maybe your john boat might get jealous???
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TIVO
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Just proves...
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9/22/2004 4:38:03 PM
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You've been with all of em? WOW! now that's an accomplishment!
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Wow, you speak for ALL of the wives and girlfriends of these boat owners.....Did you line em' all up with their Honda's and Johnson’s trimmed?
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| Name: |
TH
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Just proves...
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9/23/2004 9:28:02 AM
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It's not "few and far between". On most summer weekends you can hear them continously for miles away. I just don't understand the mentality (especially prevalent in younger people) that believes to "have fun" you have to be loud and obnoxious with no condsideration of the people around you.
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lamont
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Just proves...
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9/23/2004 10:33:54 AM
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I' m with you TH, what is the fascination with noise? And you are right, it is not few and far between. However, it appears to me it's not just the young'uns. I have seen just as many of the 40+ set polluting the airwaves. I tend to agree that these folks believe it makes them macho. Go figure.
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roswellric
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Just proves...
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9/23/2004 3:40:33 PM
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I think it's a form of adolescense-knowingly being irritating or showing off to other people that is. Some people just get stuck at a certain age. Some of their mates seem to thrive on it- you know, the James Dean bad boy image and all...I guess that's what makes the world go 'round.
I am more worried about the speed coupled with the control complexity of these offshore beasts. It's more than handling a runabout.
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4Golf
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Just proves...
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9/23/2004 9:33:13 PM
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I agree with everyone who thinks the "captain's call" is very obnoxious. As my wife would say, it's just a bunch of guys "spraying testosterone around." Why anyone wants to intentionally make their engine noise louder is beyond me. I think that these guys get positive reinforcement by the heads that turn as they go by. If only they knew that the real reason that most of us turn and look is to see who the fool is making all that noise....it's not because we really think that they are cool.
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Lakeman
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Just proves...
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9/23/2004 10:06:43 PM
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Kind of like someone on their " watercycle " doing their little tricks in front of your pier. As if I wanted to see them. All these people are going to cause some serious laws to come about.
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JUA
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Just proves...
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9/23/2004 11:33:45 PM
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I live in Tennesse now. You hear them all the time up here since I live near an interstate.
I have a loud exhaust problem, but the muffler is new, as is the catalitic converter. Now if I could just get the exhaust manifold replaced on the jeep......
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Hi There
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"Cut-out" exhausts
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9/24/2004 12:02:07 AM
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The Alabama Code states quite clearly use of a cut out exhaust is illegal. However, having one on a boat is legal. It is interesting to note that the muffled sound must be reasonable. That seems like a vague term for sound.
Section 33-5-23
Muffling devices and sirens.
(a) The exhaust of every internal combustion engine used on any vessel shall be effectively muffled by equipment so constructed and used as to muffle the noise of the exhaust in a reasonable manner. The use of cutouts is prohibited, except for vessels competing in a regatta or official boat race, and for such vessels while on trial runs.
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roswellric
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The solution?
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9/24/2004 10:40:58 AM
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I think we have some laws now . We just need to give the MP the support and authority to enforce. Raising some money for the equipment was a great idea. I'll bet the MP doesen't like these things on inland lakes either because of the nuisance and danger.
Anyone talked with the MP about tightening this up? I'd really like to see some speed limits too. That would be easy with radar. (we might have to buy the MP one of those boats to catch it though).
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