Congrats to AU for an outstanding season!
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Maddog
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 8:04:01 AM
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Although I'd like to see Auburn share the #1 spot, I don't think their win was big enough to push them up to the top. For Auburn next year, I see a 7 and 4 or 8 and 3 season.
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SBsigmapi
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 9:03:40 AM
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Although I am sure that someone will lash out at me over my opinion, I will give it anyway. Auburn's #1 claim was seriously weakened last night. If VT's fullback could catch AU would be 12-1. A lot of people will look at that and wonder if AU only beat #9 by 3 points, would they be able to handle OU or USC. I feel for AU though. It is unfortunate to have your best year ever in the same season with 3 other undefeated teams. What they needed to do to hoist the trophy was to be dominant down the stretch. I know a W is a W, but lack-luster performances in the last 3 games will end up costing AU. If they had beaten UA, UT, and VT by 3 touchdowns each, they may have been able to get the split.
I am sure my opinion is stupid, ignorant, biased, whinning, etc., but like it or not I am sure many sportswriters see it the same way.
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Feb
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 9:36:01 AM
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I am sure some sports writers see it your way or maybe you see it their way. There are other sports writers that see it differently and think Auburn had the charatcer of a No. 1 ranking. See this article in today's Washington Post. Enjoy!
URL: Wise
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| Name: |
lamont
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 10:51:06 AM
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If VT's fullback caught the ball, which he did'nt, I think you would have seen a much different offense for Auburn in the 4th quarter. My biggest complaint is that Auburn gets way to conservative with the lead. If you look at the Tennesee game for instance. You say we disappointed however, we won the SEC championship by 10 and ended up on Tennessee's 6 yard line and ran out the clock. I believe the same thing happened in the Alabama game. If Tuberville was Bob Stoops, I suppose he would have had Campbell winging it to run up the score. I suppose it is a matter of personal opinion but, I kind of admire Tuberville for not trying to run up the score although, it may have cost us at least a share of the Championship. I guess we will never know for sure.
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SBsigmapi
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 11:02:07 AM
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I don't get my opinions from sports writers and don't appreciate you insinuating such garbage. I am a college football fan. I watch tons of college football games and form opinions based on what I see. I disagree with Wise's article. I could retaliate with numerous articles that match my opinion, but I don't feel compelled to do so. It is my opinion--formed by my observations. Before last night, there were more people that thought that Auburn should be 3rd than there were that thought that they should be 1st. What about last night should change their mind? That is all I am saying. Not that AU isnt great--Not that AU couldn't play with USC or OU--Not that they (or Utah) dont deserve a shot--Just that in the system they knew that they were playing in, AU did not do what it needed to convince people (with the exception of you and Wise; lol only kidding) that they were the best.
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SBsigmapi
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 11:07:14 AM
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I agree with you. I dont find running up the score to be admirable. However, dominance is. AU dominated UGA and UT the first time. They did not dominate UA or UT the second time and did not dominate VT. They did win, and in most years that is enough. But this isnt most years and they needed to realize that.
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lamont
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Dominance?
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1/4/2005 12:11:11 PM
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By using that rationale, How in the he!! is USC #1? They were out-played by California and UCLA and certainly did'nt dominate VT or the ever-powerful Oregon State. Even if the SEC is down, as some claim, it certainly is not the joke they call the PAC 10.
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roswellric
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I think
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1/4/2005 2:44:29 PM
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TT said it right... "it was a defensive battle" and "if you have to win (the national title) on style points then you have to throw out all the systems" It's just the old "If a bullfrog had wings" stuff again. AU deserves a piece of the title.
PS Go Dawgs!
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lamont
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I think
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1/4/2005 2:52:27 PM
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Agreed. Glad to see your Dawgs take care of business for the SEC.
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Being a long time Steelers fan, their current formula for winning football, defense, more defense and ball control with a pounding running attack isn't sexy enough for college football polls. It will be interesting to see who sends more folks to the NFL among the current rosters of the three teams.
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Hi There
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 3:28:42 PM
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Here is an interesting article about strength of schedule.
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Hi There
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 3:29:28 PM
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OPPS!!! http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6783412/
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SBsigmapi
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Dominance?
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1/4/2005 3:54:29 PM
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I agree, but with people being so poll starved that they demand a preseason poll in July, someone has to start #1. Once there, USC didnt have to play well enough to jump people, just well enough not to fall. Like I said, everyone knew what the system was when play started in late August.
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SBsigmapi
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 4:13:46 PM
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The problem with this article is that it lobbies for a true playoff system. If you install a playoff, you lower the intensity of college football to that of the NFL. Regular season games would lose importance. Think about it, Texas wouldnt have to stress about losing to OU--just win the rest of the games and get'em in the play offs. Part of the excitement and intensity of I-A football is that EVERY game is critical. Instead, people should support a system that outlines concrete rules that go into effect WHEN NECESSARY. For instance a rule that allows for a BCS +1 IF NEEDED. THe rule could contain a clause that forced undefeated teams to be paired against one another. IF after the BCS plays out, there are 2 undefeated teams, the +1 kicks in. A major problem is that they keep trying to devise a system that handles imaginable problems. However, with 117 teams playing, unimaginable things happen. This systems would steer away from a true playoff where VT and Pitt hypothetically could have played for the title. Guys no matter how good you think a playoff sounds, do we really want college football to mirror the NFL? I don't.
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Rickiray
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 5:04:37 PM
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Actually ,yes. The NFL is the most exciting , and legitimate sport around. A playoff system allows teams to overcome a "fluke " loss and still be in the running for the big game. By the same token, it would unmask the imposters through head to head competition. The only reason big schools object to a playoff is that they will lose control of the cash. We all know that.
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roswellric
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Why...
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1/4/2005 5:38:43 PM
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Do I think Jim is going to jump in here and sum this thread up in his own inimitable style.....
:-)
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SBsigmapi
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 5:54:22 PM
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I disagree. I hate the "oh well" attitude after a loss. Losses are supposed to hurt and make you want to vomit. There is no such thing as a "fluke" loss. Those are simply the results of a team forgetting to show up for a game. Ignoring upset losses would be a tragedy to the passion and pageantry of college football. If you like the NFL so much, go watch NFL where teams can lose 7 games and then have them wiped clean and start over.
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Hi There
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#1 in my poll
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1/4/2005 7:26:49 PM
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Maybe a playoff involving only the top 4 teams would answer the question of who is # 1. This would have included USC, OU, AU, and Texas. Would not wipe the slate clean for losing teams like the NFL and only add one game. Why didn't AU play Texas instead of a lower ranked team?
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JIM
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Why...
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1/4/2005 7:33:29 PM
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I ain`t got no Dog in this fight. But in my professional opinion the best two teams are playing tonight. The 1st game of the year LSU got screwed out of a overtime with Auburn due to a stupid unheard of penalty on the extra point. Utah has as much right to complain as Auburn.
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| Name: |
Rickiray
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#1 in my poll
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1/5/2005 6:41:16 AM
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There are plenty of fluke losses in all facets of life and sports. Bottom line is that a winning record should get you a shot at the playoffs. It's a pretty universal concept in sports. Simply having a perfect record means nothing in div IA NCAA football ( as OU proved last night). A playoff resolves this problem.
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| Name: |
lamont
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Unheard of rule?
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1/5/2005 7:01:55 AM
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Saban, of LSU, was actually on the committee that devisd that unheard of rule. He then complains they should'nt of made the call at that point in the ball game. Either it is a rule or it is not. In addition, I guess you are pre-supposing Auburn would have lost had they gone to overtime? I happen to agree that Utah has every right to be pi$$ed as Auburn is.
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Rickiray
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#1 in my poll
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1/5/2005 7:17:39 AM
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I think an 8 team playoff would be better , but I would settle for four. Most of us can agree on the the top four teams and it would be very easy to do for the " student athletes" from a scheduling standpoint.
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JIM
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Unheard of rule?
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1/5/2005 12:50:19 PM
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After the slaughter of the Sooners last p.m. By the Trojans, leaves no doubt who is #1. The Plainsmen should play the Sooners to see who Plays Utah for #2.
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SBsigmapi
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Unheard of rule?
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1/5/2005 2:08:58 PM
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Jim, you just hit the nail on the head.
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Island Camper
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you must be joking....
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1/5/2005 2:21:36 PM
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Utah gets the bye before Auburn? Why would the Sooners even be in a discussion about who's #2 at this point? They didn't belong on the same field as USC. Would Auburn give USC more of a challenge? We'll never know. I do know one thing though - USC doesn't score 55 on Auburn's defense.
It seemed to me the VT had a large number of arrogant A-hole fans down in New Orleans. I'm impressed with how many fans they had there, but most of them need to show a little more sportsmanship. Chanting overrated to a team that finished off a 13-0 season by beating your team by 3 points is stupid.
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| Name: |
lamont
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Yeah
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1/5/2005 2:58:37 PM
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As always, a very intelligent post.
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JIM
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Yeah
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1/5/2005 3:42:17 PM
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Thank you lamont for the compliment. Auburn can have the bye.
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| Name: |
lamont
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Yeah
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1/5/2005 3:59:54 PM
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You're welcome and we'll take it. Now, gitter done.
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Island Camper
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Want a shirt?
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1/5/2005 5:19:52 PM
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Anybody want an Auburn national championship shirt? If so, here's the link to one on eBay. The only thing I don't like about it is that is says 2005 where it should say 2004.
URL: Auburn National Championship Shirt
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