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Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	Lessons from the Scrushy Trial
Date:	7/2/2005 7:08:55 PM

Note to Prosecutors: Never try an Oxley-Sarbanes case in Alabama again.

Note to Donald Watkins: Great job. Now let?s see if you come to regret using the race card to defend a white guy. Too bad, next time around some real money is going to be made by suing your client. But maybe you can switch sides and claim he was a shameless white capitalist who made his millions on the back of poor minority people.

Note to Richard Scrushy: Outstanding performance, but here come the share holder lawsuits. Don?t think the really amazing idea of cloaking yourself in Afro-American Christianity will serve you twice. I mean, the only reason it worked is because it was so laughable that nobody thought it would fool anybody. Better come up with another public image transformation. Meanwhile, it showed incredible forethought to build a mansion on the lake that can be so easily converted into a La Quinta Inn.

Note to future business leaders: If you plan to bilk stockholders, take a lesson from all this. Before your house of cards collapses, take huge tax right-offs with generous donations around the community, then point to this as evidence of your innocence from any and all wrong-doing later. Hire yourself an attorney with heavy connections in the Black Community who can help you insinuate yourself into an icon of the civil rights movement and champion of the oppressed at the right moment. Claim you were a victim. Shamelessly take your position as a pious Christian thru a TV show, like Reverend Ike. But, don't let the details of who bought the worthless stock come into focus though, it may detract from your glamour that lots of those suckered investors were black, Hispanic, and white retirees and middle class folks.

Name:	JIM -	Reply
Subject:	Lessons from the Scrushy Trial
Date:	7/2/2005 7:18:19 PM

copperline, sounds like you were a former employee, sour grapes. Some people know how to handle sucess , as King Richard did. What prison are you sending this message from?

Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	Lessons from the Scrushy Trial
Date:	7/2/2005 8:13:17 PM

No, guess again. Not a former employee at all. Can't say I believe that all this is even close to a good example of "handling success". Maybe "mis-handling excess" is something I could agree with though. Prison? Not me. But while we are swapping snappy retorts, are you running for president of the local fan club?

Name:	JIM -	Reply
Subject:	Lessons from the Scrushy Trial
Date:	7/2/2005 9:05:52 PM

Has not crossed my mind, but if he had a fan club, I would be first in line to join. President?.Would consider running for it, would sign you up for for a price.

Name:	AU Contractor -	Reply
Subject:	Watkins is representing
Date:	7/4/2005 9:39:07 PM

a REAL slug here in Memphis on a FBI sting where they have video of John Ford (uncle of Congressman Harold Ford Jr,) taking & counting the money. Ford has absolutely no chance of getting convicted here even though he has been doing this kind of thing for years because of the make-up od the jury. If you want to see the TRUMP of all race cards ..........Stay Tuned.

Name:	roswellric -	Reply
Subject:	Don't you trust?
Date:	7/10/2005 9:00:13 PM

a jury of your peers ?

Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	Don't you trust?
Date:	7/10/2005 9:15:07 PM

Actually, that's the most troubling question of all. I'd have to say that letting attorneys pick jurors gives them the ability to choose jurors who cannot keep up with the details of a complex charge, who will likely tire easily and want to go home, or who will simply become too confused to continue. I do believe in a trial by a jury of peers, but am really disappointed in the outcomes of sensational trials (OJ Simpson, Michael Jackson, and now R Scrushy) when it looks for all the world like the jury was led like lambs to the slaughter by good orators. This jury was ready to give up in the first few days of deliberation and had to be urged by the judge to continue! Complex legal issues need to be heard by jurors who are capable of keeping their heads straight, not wear out before their job is done, understand the issues, and comprehend the defense (or the prosecution's ) attempts to obscure the real issues of the day. Don't you agree?

Name:	Feb -	Reply
Subject:	Don't you trust?
Date:	7/10/2005 9:50:47 PM

Agree~ Also, is it not a jury of the defendant's peers, and not a jury of our peers?

Name:	roswellric -	Reply
Subject:	Don't you trust?
Date:	7/11/2005 12:16:13 PM

Actually I said that tongue in cheek. I think the defense always trys to dumb down the jury as much as possible and then obfuscate the central issues. Confusion=acquital

There is one thing that really bothers me .... normally intelligent people getting off the hook for jury duty.

Name:	Feb -	Reply
Subject:	Don't you trust?
Date:	7/11/2005 12:32:53 PM

I don't know this to be the case, and I am not stating it as such but ---

Wasn't it kind of interesting that a certain defendant started attending a particular church well before the trial that turned out to be a minority based church. I think even preaching at that church. It might lead one to ask the question was there an attempt to establish peers in a community well prior to jury selection?

It all becomes most complicated, convoluted and designed for the defendant by a team skilled in supporting their client. Would make for a pretty good fictional movie.

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