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LifeTime Laker
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Been reading old posts....
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12/16/2005 7:56:36 AM
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... and found this following exchange in one of the threads:
On 12/9 jawjagal said the following……
What state do you live?
In the next post JIM responded with……
What state do you live? And you are a school teacher?.
Then jawjagal said…..
One is never, grammatically speaking, supposed to end a sentence with a preposition.
So, if I had asked, "What state do you live IN" - IN would have been a preposition. I was grammatically correct, Jim.
Now, do you want to really ask an English teacher that question?
I am no english teacher, if fact I can barely speak it, much less teach it. I AM fluent in "southern" and when in chat rooms on the net I spoke mostly "typo". But to me the opening post does not properly convey the question as stated.
Should it not have read.... "IN what state do you live?"
Not trying to pick a fight, just "stirring the puddin' " a little....;<)
But the poetry is GREAT jawjagal!!!
And as aside, I recently (last 6 months or so), read an article that was about the ending in a preposition thing. Apparently the rules are being relaxed a bit. Seems it is easier to change the rules than to TEACH how to obey the old ones.
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jawjagal
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Been reading old posts....
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12/16/2005 8:08:33 AM
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GOOD FOR YOU !
You are absolutely correct and I was waiting for this question. I wrote it without the IN in the front as to make it UNDERSTOOD. For example:
"Don't go there."
It would correctly be "YOU don't go there."
(You is understood. ) You remember that rule, right? So, with that same mindset, I had IN understood. It could have been written either way.
Thank you for bringing this up! I was waiting for the smartest child in class to think for themselves and raise their hand with a correct coherent thought. You get an A and may go to the head of the lunch line. :) (Notice I said MAY and not CAN....now, tell me the difference between the two and why I used MAY.) Extra credit. Or homework pass. Take your pick.
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jawjagal
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Been reading old posts....
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12/16/2005 8:55:34 AM
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Ooopsss...maybe I should have said "YOU take your pick." LOL (YOU is understood!)
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roswellric
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Been reading old posts....
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12/16/2005 10:06:48 AM
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My favorite is "Are you done"
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GoneFishin
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MAY???
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12/16/2005 1:17:30 PM
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Jaw, you are granting an intelligent lake person "permission" to go to the head of the lunch line rather than creating a rule that you "can" go to the head of the lunch line. However, It appears that "can" has replaced "may" in conversation.
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GoneFishin
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Irregardless
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12/16/2005 1:32:51 PM
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For years, I used the word irregardless and was corrected one day by my mother. She said irregarless is not a word. She was correct as it is not necessary to put the negating prefix “ir” before since the word already has the negating suffix “less”. It is unlike irregular or irresponsible since those words do not have “less” at the end. And I still use ain't when in Dadeville such as I ain't got a lake home but just a condo!!!!!!!!!
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jawjagal
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Irregardless
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12/16/2005 2:03:11 PM
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I always say, " It ain't over until it's over." But I have to do those finger AIR quotation movements, so people will know I know better.
I also say Fixin' to.
Here's one for you: Flammable and Imflammable mean the same thing. Go figure. (Again, the YOU is understood - LOL)
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jawjagal
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MAY???
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12/16/2005 2:06:06 PM
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Nope....try again.
Can means one thing.
May another.
This is one of my favorite tricks. Please play along. I don't expect non-English folks to know such minute matters...but since I don't know some (well, really ALL) of the stuff you guys are talking about in your boat motors threads and such, this is the kind of stuff I know and "it ain't (air quotation fingers) worth much."
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jawjagal
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MAY???
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12/16/2005 2:10:13 PM
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Gonefishing - I will take that answer after all. Yes, "May" is granting permission. "Can" is that you are pjysically able to. I see in your second sentence what you mean when you put "can" in quotes. Aren't you glad your teacher can admit she is wrong and give you full credit when she was looking for a more solid answer.
You MAY be first in the lunch line becaue you CAN. AND, you get the no homework pass.
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Island Camper
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whether or not
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12/16/2005 2:27:15 PM
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Any thoughts on "whether or not"? I've been told that the word "whether" by itself already includes the "or not" part.
Other phrases that get on my nerves are "use the facilities" and "due to the fact that".
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roswellric
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whether or not
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12/16/2005 2:39:10 PM
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The current ones that make my skin crawl are "going forward" and "getting the sense".
I'm getting the sense that going forward I'll be done.
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Island Camper
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another one
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12/16/2005 2:49:32 PM
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Another one that I think is funny "foreseeable future". How much of the future is foreseeable?
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GoneFishin
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WHETHER OR NOT
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12/16/2005 2:52:29 PM
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There is a simple test to determine when to correctly use “whether or not”. Replace it with the word “if” and see if it still means the same.
If I were to say “Island Camper asked whether or not the cat boat was sinking”. Substitue “if” === “Island Camper asked if the cat boat was sinking”. The meaning is the same so use “if”.
Jim loves you whether or not you agree with him. Now. try “if”== “Jim loves you if you agree with him”. It changes the meaning and “whether or not” is correct.
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roswellric
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Very good!
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12/16/2005 3:08:51 PM
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You get an A+ Never heard that. I'll use that test going forward.
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roswellric
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another one
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12/16/2005 3:09:24 PM
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Never thought of that but you hear it all the time...
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GoneFishin
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This One Bothers Me
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12/16/2005 3:58:35 PM
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Two that have always irritated me occur when you call an office and ask to speak to some one. The receptionist or secretary will say “May I ask who is calling” or “May I tell him who is calling”. The inference is if “he” does not want to talk to you “he” will be out. My response is always “Sure, go ahead and ask” or “Sure, go ahead and tell him”. They get the message and you get through.
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JIM
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This One Bothers Me
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12/16/2005 6:47:49 PM
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This thread has got to be the worst I have ever seen on this board. And you people say I am full of crap.
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GoneFishin
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This One Bothers Me
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12/16/2005 7:36:39 PM
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JIM, what exactly bothers you about this thread???? You never seem to enjoy anything or anyone. Tell us what you would like to see here and maybe we can accomodate you. Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!!!!
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JIM
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This One Bothers Me
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12/16/2005 7:51:27 PM
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I am 66 years old (I think), and do not need a English or spelling lesson from gagagal or any one else. Probley forgot more than she will ever know. What I would like to see on this board is a little more slack on what other people think with out telling them they are not wanted to express their opinions. I express mine, like it or not, but I respect yall`s.. I enjoy this board, but will leave the room if I am not wanted. LOL
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jawjagal
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This One Bothers Me
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12/16/2005 9:16:16 PM
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This is what gets me:
When someone says (and I am so afraid I am going to offend someone here, because so many people say it, so hear me out and let me explain and see if you agree with my THINKING, even if you say it) "To tell you the truth.....yada, yada, yada." And I think, "What? Like the don't tell the truth the other times they talk?"
I sure hope I haven't offended anyone. You, too, Jim. Sorry, if this thread gets on your last nerve. I found it kinda refreshing for a change, since, "to tell you the truth" I was kinda tired of talking about Georgia and Auburn. I was hoping it would have a life of it's own and we could laugh about some of the goofy things people say. Like my mother who would say, "yonder" - and had her Master's in Education. Local Conyers, Georgia gal. Loved every minute of that Olde South colloquialism (sp?)
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CAT BOAT
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This One Bothers Me
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12/16/2005 9:20:40 PM
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This thread has got to be the worst I have ever seen on this board. And you people say I am full of crap.
JIM, I can never tell what you are about to type on this forum.. When I read this I just fell out in the floor. Tell it like it is, and just be an @sshole. Who cares. Right now, I am laughing my @ss off. Speaking of that, I wonder how Jr. is doing?
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jawjagal
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This One Bothers Me
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12/16/2005 9:26:06 PM
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Hey, Gonefishing...that reminds me of some of the craziest things people should do to get a rise our of someone (when you were talking about calling an office and they ask, "And who may I ask is calling?") Anyway, one of the things I received from message boards friends to act crazy was to go through a drive-through and when you place your order make sure you say at the end of your order, "This is TO-GO." hahahahaha
I just thought that was so funny, I have been doing it ever since. I am sure I am driving those folks at the drive-thru crazy!!!!!!!!!! My kids just roll their eyes.
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joyrider
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I'M late as usual!
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12/16/2005 10:42:50 PM
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Geezzzzze, I go shopping for 10 hours and I am late for class!
Do I need a note from mom or a doctors excuse???
This forum-for the most part-cracks me up, whatever 'subject' is on the menu. I do enjoy reading the posts from all the comedians on the lake.
It's adds more flava, but I will admit there a few post that is more like "salt on the rim". (I have high blood pressure, and usually go saltless).
School is fun and would hope to receive a good grade. I like football, but it's time to break out the snow skis now. I mean,.....even school has holidays.
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longtimer
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What a shock!
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12/17/2005 1:05:25 AM
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A thread concerning basic grammar that any grade-schooler should have learned bothers Jim!
I guess it would bother me, too, if it was over my head. So let's stick with subjects Jim knows something about. If we ignore the stuff that isn't appropriate for a for a forum that might be read by women and children, that leaves us with...
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...well, not much. So maybe a better idea would be for Jim to try to get some education beyond the "See Spot run" level; perhaps then he'll be able to participate in the discussions that the adults are having.
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4Golf
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Been reading old posts....
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12/17/2005 8:02:37 AM
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4 Golf's wife here...from one Marietta, GA girl to another, thanks jawjagal for the lessons. We're all seeing the "dumbing down" of our kids; it's easier to relax rules than teach them correctly. I actually had one of my kids' teachers tell me she wasn't too concerned about teaching the kids to spell correctly, since computers have spell check. Needless to say, the kids aren't in that school anymore. (I will also say that my kids have had many AWESOME teachers, too!) But, once when my brother corrected me for ending a sentence ("Where are y'all going to?) with a preposition, I was easily able to fix the problem: "Where are ya'll going to, a$$h*le?"
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jawjagal
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Been reading old posts....
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12/17/2005 8:56:31 AM
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4Golf - EXACTLY!!!!!!!! Great comeback!
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roswellric
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This One is different
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12/17/2005 9:37:27 AM
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It's a very nice and polite thread......
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