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TotheLake
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Houses not condo @ Parker Cree
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8/21/2006 5:03:19 PM
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The website is up for the newest development at Parker Creek. The drawing we saw this weekend appeared to be condos but will actually be 25 houses and they will have a consierge service to the marina.
http://www.boltoncove.com
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Feb
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Web Link
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8/21/2006 5:07:28 PM
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URL: Bolton
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roswellric
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Hmmmm....
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8/21/2006 6:40:31 PM
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not much there......
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PC Al
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Web Link
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8/21/2006 6:43:50 PM
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Beats the heck out of Condos.
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Osms
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How much waterfront.....
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8/21/2006 7:11:38 PM
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does this whole project have? If it smells like....
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Maverick
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Why Tuscan style
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8/21/2006 7:57:42 PM
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Last time I looked LM was not on the French Riveria.
Why not Adirondack or timber frame. I know Im not the developer , but if on the lake why not use lake style achitecture that blends into the natural scape rather than sticks out like a sore thumb, just my opinion.
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PC Al
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Why Tuscan style
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8/21/2006 8:42:56 PM
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I’ve got news for you Buds. The architecture will not matter much, because you will not be able to see them from the lake unless you ride up in there. This place is back in a slough and on a hill. I would guess there might be 400 feet of water front with about 150 of it with a view. If you had looked at the property three months ago, you might have been able to imagine one or two houses going in there. If there are 25 houses in there, half of them will not even be able to see the water, except over another house, pool house or whatever else they are going to have in there. I cannot imagine where they are going to have slips for boats. Not if they go by the same regulations the rest of us have to abide by.
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roswellric
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The end
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8/21/2006 9:12:07 PM
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of the boom.....
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| Name: |
Osms
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Why Tuscan style
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8/21/2006 9:24:47 PM
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Style doesn't matter to those with no sense of style---look at the crap selling in the panhandle--a Bavarian village--come on. Get in line ATL'ans it's all for you.
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Feb
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The end
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8/21/2006 9:26:44 PM
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Please explain RR. I think I know what your are hinting. Like to hear your thoughts, views and opinons on "The end". I may not agree, but I will consider and respct your insight.
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I think RR means welcome to Lake Lanier. Way over crowded, way over priced. With all the condos over half a million dollars and 35 plus houses at the ridge over 2 million bucks, the market here is sure to flop.I sure miss the lake that was here 10 or 15 years ago. (but I'm still here). The monstorous condo developement near the Union boat ramp is a total eyesore now and is only getting worse as they keep killing trees and digging dirt. Still waters ain't a whole lot better... just my 2 c's worth!
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Feb
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The end
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8/21/2006 10:43:12 PM
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Thank you Clearwater, I thought it might be where RR was headed with his point. Does he or some of the others think it has gotten so bad on Lake Martin? Or, is the point we are heading on the same course? If we are on this same negative course, then what will stop it if anything or how long before we are ruined?
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roswellric
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The end
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8/22/2006 8:01:15 AM
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What I was alluding to was at the end of a typical real estate cycle (no not a crash-just a change of trend) you always see poorly thought out and marketed developments. I am really ignorant about this one but it sure looks like a duck to me, just like the condo at the bridge.
As to the LLanier aspect, I really don't think it will happen here to that degree as we have talked about before there are only 2 landowners and they ain't sellin' much.
You and I are really not that far apart in perspective.
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Smitty
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Why Tuscan style
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8/22/2006 8:38:34 AM
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Good going osms....when you can't think of something smart or witty, just say something negative about Atlanta.
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Feb
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The end
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8/22/2006 8:40:40 AM
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Thanks RR, It is always interesting to hear other's perspecitives and thoughts.
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boataholic
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The end
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8/22/2006 8:40:53 AM
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Hope you are right. I see this as a small test project for Russell. If it goes over well, I expect to see larger versions of this project with a 100+ houses off water with water frontage big enough for only 5. If it flops, maybe they will conclude there is no market for off water houses.
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roswellric
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Actually
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8/22/2006 8:52:11 AM
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That was done with the Glynmere at Willow Point development. Only a dozen or so lots were on the water. That would be logical since most of their land is off the water and that would maximize the value of the non-waterfront lots. I suspect they are figuring out a long range development plan right now since the rules have changed.
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roswellric
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You are welcome
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8/22/2006 9:15:42 AM
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I appreciate your points of view as well.
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jawjagal
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Why Tuscan style
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8/22/2006 9:16:09 AM
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Bavarian style? Oh, ,just what I was waiting for. Do tell!
But seriously, where is Parker Creek?
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Feb
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Why Tuscan style
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8/22/2006 9:41:22 AM
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Hi Jaws, Someone maybe able to give you a more defininitive answer, but until they come along I will give it a stab. A lot of Parker Creek is in Coosa County. If you look at the Martin map, it is in the Western Sector of the Lake and pretty much in the Big Kowaliga Creek vacinity. You will see Parker Creek Marina and across from it Needle Eye and then extending up to Veazey's Marina and North West of that through the Narrows and into the Oakachoy creek area. Most of it I believe is accessed off HWY 259. Not sure, but I do not beleve Real Island to the South and/or Willow Point are considered Parker Creek. It would sort of cosist of parts in between. Not to sure wheree the exact boundaries, if there are any, are located.
If you have a copy of Lake Magazine, I like there map of the Lake and have used it in my references above.
Now we will let one of the old timer's jump in and answer your question.
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Osms
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Jawja - Barvarian style?
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8/22/2006 9:54:04 AM
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I don't follow your response. The Barbarian village style development is in the panhandle of Florida between Destin and Panama City. That development is as inappropriately styled as the Tuscan - spell Dryvit stucco and arches -- is to Lake Martin.
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Osms
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Smitty - ATL
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8/22/2006 10:01:23 AM
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Sorry to step on your toes. Take a survey of condo owners on the lake and you'll probably find a disproportionate number of Atlantans as owners. We don't need more condos - you can figure out the rest.
I don't have anything against individual Atlantans - just when they gang up on you.
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boataholic
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Actually
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8/22/2006 10:48:57 AM
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Good point. Smells like an trend. An ugly one.
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PC Al
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JAW. - Where is Parker Creek?
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8/22/2006 11:33:45 AM
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If going by boat, go up and under bridge at Hwy 63, Sinclair's on left; bear right toward Willow Point. Go past Willow Point Country Club on right and when you get even with Scrushy's house on the right, bear left and that takes you into Parker Creek. You can't miss it - it is probably 2 miles wide at the beginning.
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NCSue
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Smitty - ATL
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8/22/2006 12:14:24 PM
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i wonder how many of the Atlantans are from Georgia?
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Smitty
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Smitty - ATL
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8/22/2006 12:44:08 PM
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No problem...maybe you're right.
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roswellric
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Oh....
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8/22/2006 1:53:11 PM
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Most all of them :-)
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| Name: |
bug
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Houses not condo @ Parker Cree
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8/22/2006 6:03:15 PM
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Did you see the article in the last LAKE mag with BR"s idea to make an "equestrian" area off 63 between Willow POint and the Ridge/ Windermere area? He says he envisions a time when there could be "gentleman farmers" keeping horses on lots near the lake, and folks riding to restaurants/shopping/etc (to be built at a later date, just buy your lot now) in horse drawn wagons. Sounds like another way to try to spin lots with 0 water access. Or view. And cut down more trees.
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jawjagal
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horse farm
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8/22/2006 8:54:33 PM
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Oh, to live next to that SMELL.....
Ric - you think most Atlantans are from Georgia, or is that who we tend to hang with?
THanks for all the info about Parker Creek...I have a framed map of LM hanging over my fireplace in my...shall I write it?....the "C" word...? I won't write it...it's too offensive to some. I do wish I was an old timer like you guys,,,but I got my own set of growth problems everywhere else I go.
The "C" was all we could afford. :-(
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roswellric
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Well
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8/22/2006 9:06:58 PM
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If you are an Atlantan it follows that you are from Georgia. Some consider themselves Atlantans if they lived there at a point in time. I am a native Atlantan and I don't consider folks Atlantans if they just spend a little time here. I was born and raised in Atlanta. Just like I don't consider myself a Dadevillian- or is that a Dadevillian? ( what is an Alex city native an Alex Citian?) because I reside there for a period of time. Could I have one of your Margaritas please?......
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bug
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Hey Roswellric
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8/23/2006 12:08:28 AM
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Nice to know there are a few true natives left-- I'm 7th generation Atl'n, livin' in the big old salty 'ham- proud to still call Atl "home". Hold down the fort!
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roswellric
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Hey Roswellric
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8/23/2006 8:57:28 AM
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Why thanks. There are a few of us left. 7th generation is a big deal. Heck your relatives saw it burn... I'll tell you its getting harder and harder to hold down the fort though. It's surrounded by invaders :-)
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Feb
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and the Alamo Fell.
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8/23/2006 10:43:58 AM
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roswellric
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and the Alamo Fell.
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8/23/2006 10:54:46 AM
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That's right before I leave. I don't want the same fate as Davy Crockett..
Hmmm....it WAS Santa Anna (Antonio de Lopez) wasn't it. Feb you are really sharp...
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Feb
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I am Sharp & I --
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8/23/2006 12:24:56 PM
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cut myself alot. Just kind of afraid the South of the Border hord is going to take over the White Alamo and everything it surveys. Just like armadillos and Kudzu, they just keep spreading.
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roswellric
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I am Sharp & I --
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8/23/2006 2:25:26 PM
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Yup. I was further north up in the mountains last weekend. The higher altitude and cooler temperatures would be mighty nice on a lake. Prices look to be similar now that LM has appreciated so much (excluding Burton & Rabun of course).
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Lake Guy
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The end
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8/24/2006 11:01:15 AM
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That may be true if Russell Lands was the developer. People need to remember taht Russell Lands has a Real Estate division and they also market projects for other developers. These peopele are just following what RL did at Glynmere. Unfortunatly this new project is on a far inferior piece of land. Good luck to them. I heard tehy are going to list around $1 mil.
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| Name: |
boataholic
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The end
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8/24/2006 12:21:29 PM
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A million?? Good lord. If that is true then I really have no idea what property is worth. By my standard, if that is worth a million, then my little bitty place nearby that I paid less than 300,000 for one year ago ought to be worth 1.5 million. I'll be truly amazed if there are people who value the concierge and other "amenities" and all the new shiny stuff enough to pay that much. Geez, you could buy a cabin, bulldoze it, build new, and hire a butler and maintenance man for less than a million.
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roswellric
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Remember
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8/24/2006 8:53:18 PM
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the dot-com blowout?
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