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Name:   BhamGirl - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/26/2006 2:20:38 PM

In 1949 five coeds became the first Auburn drum majorettes. This 57 year Auburn tradition is in the process of being done away with. In two years the majorette program will be non-existent. WHY? Because there are those who feel that a separation between the dance line, the flag corps, and the majorettes is “NOT FAIR”. You may have already noticed that the majorettes this year are no longer wearing the traditional white boots, and are no longer performing the high step that has been an Auburn pregame tradition. Are we, the Auburn men and women, going to let someone erase OUR long standing tradition? We wouldn’t let someone stop us from rolling Toomer’s Corner after a win, so we shouldn’t let them end our majorettes.
Please let Auburn University know that as alum and fans we want the majorettes to remain. Take a moment of your time and send an email or call the following people:
Dr. Johnnie Vinson (Auburn University Band Director)
vinsojb@auburn.edu 334-844-3178
President Ed Richardson (Auburn University Interim President)
richaed@auburn.edu 334-844-4650
Dr. Debbie L. Shaw (Interim Vice-President for Alumni Affairs)
debbieshaw@auburn.edu 334-844-1134




Name:   uflyifix - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/26/2006 4:08:55 PM

I've heard that the band directors daughter is a flag and that he's already recieved hundreds of letters regarding the changes in the traditional pre game show. I agree w you on this. This is Auburn University, NOT Tuskeegee or Morehouse. I found myself sick at my stomach the first time he strutted on the field two years ago for the first time and did some juke-jiving move and speared his baton in the endzone. WHAT THE CRAP IS THAT ABOUT?! Next, the band stormed onto the field in some form or fashion and from that moment on everyone around knew that a sad new day had arrived at Auburn. My daughter is seven now and wants to be a majorette one day. Too bad that I may have to go to that other school to see her perform. Sad isn't it. Just sad. Hope the way they play football never changes. Anyway, War Eagle! F.T.T!



Name:   AUBandparent - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 9:26:05 AM

I am sorry you don't like the changes the band has gone through over the last few years. Many of the changes are for the improvement and health marching member. This is the largest band in the history of the university. Every organization worth its salt grows and changes. Not everyone is happy. So be it. You can't please everyone. However, the members including the majorettes are happy with the program. The university is a diverse group of students and I take offense to some of your comments. Some of the comments seem rather backward thinking. We don't live in the past century. The band is a cohesive unit. No one is "left out". Programs change and evolve. In fact my son was the drum major last year that speared the mace during pregame! The facts are the majorettes still lead out during pregame and do wear the white boots during pregame. The reason they do not wear the the rest of the day is because studies have shown they cause stress fractures and other injuries to the students. I am in favor of he health of the students over looks any day. Its sad when people have critize without the facts. I am proud of all the students that give up so much of their time and energy to participate in The Auburn Univesity Marching Band. No this isn't Tuskegee or any other band program...this is Auburn University Marching Band and a wonderful group of students. Maybe you can find it in your hearts to support the students and get the facts straight instead of hurting 375 kids.



Name:   uflyifix - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 9:53:42 AM

I'm not real sure you have your finger on the pulse of the majorettes and their opinions quite as well as you may think. I won't elaborate further @ this time. I'm sorry if you are offended by my comments but I share the feelings of many, and would bet that the majority of the Auburn fans would agree that this not about "diversity" as some love to throw out. In my opinion (which with $.25 will buy you a cup of coffee at McDonalds) some things are just better off left alone.



Name:   AUBandparent - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 10:15:38 AM

You have a right to your opinion just I like I do mine...however, I am with the members often....The program has the support of the administration. No one twists the arms of the members to participate. Just like any activity if you dont like it, dont do it. Just my opinion.



Name:   ot - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 10:53:04 AM

BUT, if you cut out the majorettes all together then "if you don't like it, don't do it" doesn't apply. just curious, is this a fat versus skinny thing?



Name:   AUBandparent - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 11:00:09 AM

No one is "cutting out" the majorettes. Just some changes. The white boots are still part of pregame... they still twirl their batons, the majorettes still are in front during pregame and march around. No, these comments dont seem to be fat issues as they are racial..as the Tuskegee and Morehouse comments.



Name:   Ulysses E. McGill - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 11:02:21 AM

like in save the whales?......sorry, that wasn't very nice; I'm feeling punchy with cabin fever.



Name:   AUBandparent - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 11:08:07 AM

The comment about the drum major 2 years ago, and the Tuskegee and Morehouse reference is so over the top, now my stomach is turning. What backward rednecks! Seems radically motivated, in my humble opinion.





Name:   ot - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 11:27:45 AM

so.. they are not doing away with majorettes? just the boots that are bad for their feet?



Name:   uflyifix - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 12:01:51 PM

Radically motivated? Redneck. Hardly. Are you trying to make me believe that high stepping and gyrating were derived at a predominently white college? Yes, it is a racial thing. Calling someone a redneck or thinking backward is also racially motivated. Hello kettle, I'm pot.



Name:   aubie - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 12:18:51 PM

Ok- this seems to be getting off topic quickly! The topic is the majorettes- not the whole band and their performances. Yes, the changes to the majorettes are very obvious. They no longer wear the boots (I wore them in high school and have no problems from that- neither do most other colleges), they were forced to wear their hair in buns at the beginning of the season and not down, they are no longer all leading the band out- some are in the back row while flags/ dance teams replaced them, their uniforms are now so close to the flags/ dance teams' you can hardly tell the difference, they no longer march the way they used to- with the shoulders swaying and kinda leaning back, etc. etc. None of these are safety issues. I think the real issue is that the band director doesn't like majorettes. I personally know a couple of the majorettes and former majorettes. The ones I know are not happy with the changes but will not voice it for fear of being moved to the back of the band and making things worse. Thousands of letters have been sent in already. Fans are not happy with these changes- completely breaks tradition. Furthermore, other major sec colleges are not doing this and we will lose girls to them- they will certainly choose to go where majorettes are still true majorettes. I understand unity and cohesiveness within the band- but it has not been a problem for all of these years.
As far as the pregame entrance goes- I'm not the biggest fan and neither are many fans. Simply because again, it breaks all tradition of the pregame show. The band has been marching down the field playing the fight song for years and years and change is hard, yes, but tradition is another thing. It would be like the Tennessee band not making the "T" for the team to come out, the Alabama band not spelling Bama, etc. Change is hard, but I still like tradition. Just my opinion.
Yes, I will be sending a letter to 'save the majorettes'. Auburn fans have long been proud of their majorettes and quite frankly, so has the SEC as a whole. Not being politically incorrect or anything, but schools from the south have always been proud of their pretty girls- cheerleaders, majorettes, dance groups, etc.



Name:   ot - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 12:42:52 PM

you bring up what i asked earlier....(pretty, etc.)..is this a fat versus skinny thing? most flag girls cannot wear majorettes uniforms!



Name:   aubie - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 12:52:04 PM

No ot- I do not see this issue as a fat/skinny thing. I think it is someone who wants to change things up and get rid of majorettes - whatever his motive is. I don't know him personally, so I don't know his motives. I personally do not see it as a fat/skinny thing. Most of these girls have worked all their lives in baton lessons learning to twirl and they should be showcased for that.



Name:   ot - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 1:19:56 PM

i agree...i just am wondering who thinks bands do not have majorettes! i have never heard of a band without them... am i that old school? that is why i asked the question, because what could possibly be the reason with doing away with them.



Name:   aubie - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 2:38:57 PM

I agree, I have no idea why people would want to do away with them. There are bands that are going more towards the dance lines instead of majorettes, but major sec schools still have them. Those girls work so hard all their lives to learn to twirl the baton, it would be a shame to do away with majorettes. We have plenty of talent with baton twirlers, I don't understand why someone would want to get rid of them either...
War Eagle!!!



Name:   Ulysses E. McGill - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 2:51:41 PM

"Those girls work so hard all their lives to learn to twirl the baton, it would be a shame to do away with majorettes.”

Yes, what a shame...... and a waste of true talent and skill. I'm devastated.




Name:   aubie - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 3:27:43 PM

lol jlazc! I'm sure a lot of people do not care whether or not there are majorettes. But a lot of people do. Many, many little girls in the south- and all over- grow up taking dancing, baton, and gymnastics all their lives with the dream of some day becoming a cheerleader, majorette, or dance line member. Why on earth would we stop having any of those things? I have a daughter who does say she wants to be an Auburn majorette. I'm sad to think that when she does get there, they may no longer exist. Besides the tradition of our band and majorette line.
Some may not care one way or the other, but as ot said- why would anyone really want to get rid of them?



Name:   FLee - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 3:48:26 PM

I'm not sure this is a question of eliminating the majorettes vs. changing their routine and how they are show cased in the program. I sent an email to Dr. Vinson to asking what was the status of the majorettes at AU. He replied promptly "First, let me state unequivocally that there are no plans to eliminate majorettes as a part of the Auburn University Marching Band. Majorettes have been an important part of the Auburn Band for many years, and they will continue to be in the future!"

He went on to say that there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding the majorettes, thanked me for my interest, and said he would share my email with Dr. Good - director of the marching band.



Name:   Jenny AU92 - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 4:50:56 PM

Good grief, woman, do you TRULY have no life??

For the info of the rest of you, this cadre of women, most of whom have ZERO direct affiliation with the band, but apparently have plenty of perceived gripes and grudges, have taken on hair buns and go-go boots as their raison d'etre recently. They and their group are flooding both athletic events and other message boards with their misinformed and utterly ridiculous opinions against the current band director and the administration. They hear what they want to hear, and disregard the rest. For those of us who are AU alum, they are a complete embarassment. They tried to bring their crap onto an Auburn board of which I am a long time member (www.aunation.net) and they got shut down rapidly, and in a not so pleasant manner. Times change and progressive institutions will allow themselves to embrace change if those whom it affects accept it. From what I understand, no one actually in the band right now appreciates their busybody interference.

One of these "ladies" actually posted the following in our Auburn football forum, when one of their members questioned why she was complaining about majorettes in a football forum. Here's the link to the "conversation" http://www.aunation.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=30305&st=0

I believe this one statement shows clearly that this group is about as rational as my two year old:

"1986AUAlum: But when AU football recruiters start calling the AU athletic department to complain about how bad the AU majorettes look and how it's hurting recruiting, and when the athletic department is concerned enough to look into it, then it becomes a football issue."

Yeah, we are gonna start losing out on 4 and 5 star recruits because the majorettes are not wearing go-go boots and hair buns. If Tubby thought majorettes were critical to recruitment, he would take a band director on scouting trips!. When questioned, this person also refused to confirm she was ever even a majorette, and several band parents on our site blew her out of the water, much like they are doing here.

So I hope that the rest of you on this forum (meaning those of you who were not part of a coordinated effort to log in under fake names and pretend to agree with these people so as to show (fake) support for the cause) will treat these people with the same disdain the rest of us have. If you care about Auburn University, and care about the AU Band, then support their efforts in a positive manner instead of trying to stir up some meaningless, grudge based controversy that no one else gives a flip about. As long as Auburn fields a band, and gives a meaningful experience to the students that are members, then that is what is important to me.

War Eagle.




Name:   Ulysses E. McGill - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 5:26:06 PM

I guess I have a hard time getting excited over something I consider so trivial. Just to make sure I’m not being overly callous on this issue, I just asked my wife (Auburn Engineering Class of ‘80) her opinion; she seemed to care less than I do.

If someone wants to dance, swing flags, play in the band, or throw batons for fun, I think that is great. However, I’ve seen many parents over-emphasize the importance of these things with their children while letting academics take a back seat. In my opinion, the primary goal of school should be to learn skills that will make a real difference in careers and success (unless the only goal is to find a sugar daddy, which happens). In the big picture, this issue should be about a little fun for the kids and a side show for the games (which have a similar but far more complex problem with university politics).




Name:   JIM - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 5:33:15 PM

What`s the matter down there? Is the stadium getting artifical turf,and they will have no place to graze.



Name:   ot - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/27/2006 5:45:20 PM

it's cold. we are bored. I personally am ready for summer!



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Hey CATBOAT...
Date:   10/27/2006 9:28:21 PM

Pick a side and let's see if we can get this thread really FIRED UP!!



Name:   BoatsRFun - Email Member
Subject:   Hey CATBOAT...
Date:   10/27/2006 9:40:34 PM

LOL, I dont think they need any help, plus catboat is a Bama fan!!!!!



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Hey CATBOAT...
Date:   10/27/2006 9:48:19 PM

This looks like a real CAT FIGHT. I better stay out of it. LOL



Name:   Ulysses E. McGill - Email Member
Subject:   Hey CATBOAT...
Date:   10/27/2006 10:44:50 PM

Cat might become an Auburn fan if this gets worked out right. How about white boots, blue pasties, and an orange G-string? If the boots hurt their feet, barefoot is OK too. Combime this with all of that high quality baton twirling skill, and you will have quite a show.



Name:   Lakeman - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/28/2006 11:15:17 AM

Is calling someone a " redneck " a racist statement?



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/28/2006 8:02:41 PM

YES, it's almost as bad as calling someone an AMERICAN!!!



Name:   ChrisCraft - Email Member
Subject:   this is not...
Date:   10/28/2006 10:59:57 PM

our parents world.



Name:   Lakeman - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   10/29/2006 6:10:40 AM

Osms what is your nationality? Is there something wrong with being an American in your book? Is your book the koran? Just what is your point?



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Come on Lakeman...
Date:   10/29/2006 5:47:07 PM

no one is an AMERICAN anymore. In this liberal world of political and social correctness we must use adjectives to proclaim our heritage. At one time "black" was the preferred term over Negro, now it AFRO-AMERICAN, it's not Indian it's NATIVE AMERICAN. To answer your politically incorrect question as to my nationality--I am a EUROPEAN AMERICAN; ancestors settled is Alabama in the early 1800s which qualifies me to be a certified REDNECK AMERICAN. Now how about you??



Name:   atauonce - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   11/2/2006 11:17:15 AM

ufly,
What do you mean this is AU not Tuskeegee or Morehouse? and who are you talking about when HE STRUTTED ONTO THE FIELD? Who are you talking about juke-jiving, I've never seen that here...
-atauonce



Name:   Lakeman - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   11/2/2006 5:04:55 PM

A negro drum major.



Name:   atauonce - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   11/5/2006 5:38:14 PM

and which one would that be lakeman? and why are you so racist?....auburn isn't just for white folks...



Name:   atauonce - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   11/5/2006 5:38:41 PM

and which one would that be lakeman? and why are you so racist?....auburn isn't just for white folks...



Name:   atauonce - Email Member
Subject:   Save the Auburn Majorettes!
Date:   11/5/2006 5:38:43 PM

and which one would that be lakeman? and why are you so racist?....auburn isn't just for white folks...







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