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Name:   PikeSki - Email Member
Subject:   Advise on Bling
Date:   4/2/2007 1:23:19 PM

To all of you long time lakers out there. I wanted to post a question to gather advice from your experiences to a very important question:

What cleaners and waxes do you recommend for cleaning and waxing boat hulls?

I have recently heard of "Mothers Wax Bar". Have any of you ever used this product on a boat hull?



Name:   ALSCN - Email Member
Subject:   Maverick or Pier Pressure
Date:   4/2/2007 1:30:30 PM

You may want to ask Mav about this, from what I hear, he is pretty good at waxing atleast a small section of a boat and getting a pretty good shine.... or that is what Pier Pressure told me, who might also know what Mav used.



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   New or old boat?
Date:   4/2/2007 2:33:20 PM

New boat--doesn't matter much--might try 3M Boat Wax. Older boat with some oxidation, I use 3M Fiberglass Restorer with Wax. Best stuff I've ever seen for oxidation--but you have to use a spinning buffer--no hand, or orbital buffing will work. It's a one step process, buff the stuff on and continue buffing that spot until it shines--don't let it dry. Available at Walmart for about $9.00. Buffer, a lot more!



Name:   Feb - Email Member
Subject:   Watch Out
Date:   4/2/2007 2:34:16 PM

Maverick has a mean streak. He will spend two hours waxing an area equivalent to the size of your Dock or bumper. You will then spend the rest of your life attempting to polish the remainder of the boat to match the one foot square demo area.

For beautiful natural wood use Briwax.



Name:   Maverick - Email Member
Subject:   OK - Now For the Truth
Date:   4/2/2007 3:20:10 PM

After much research several years back, I located a test of boat waxes where they left the fiberglass in the weather for like 5 years and then checked and reported back every year as to the overall performance and the hands down winner was Collinite

http://www.collinitemarine.com/products.htm

Fiberglass Boat Cleaner (No. 920)
Paste Fleetwax (No. 885)

Cannot find locally you have to order off the web or I just call Collinite directly.

Use the cleaner first then the wax, afterward make sure you have boat shoes on are you are liable to find yourself going face first into the water as it is slick as owl chit.

Make sure to use a orbital waxer to take the cleaner and wax off and I also use it to apply the fiberglass cleaner. You have to put the wax on by hand.

I use the terrycloth bonnets to both apply the cleaner and then use to take off the cleaner and wax, then go back over after all the wax is off with the lamb skin bonnet.

need any practice or lesson let me know and you can come wax the Mastercraft, as It is on my to do list for the next week or two to wax.

URL: Collinite Marine Wax

Name:   CAT BOAT - Email Member
Subject:   OK - Now For the Truth
Date:   4/2/2007 4:04:44 PM

After much research several years back, I located a test of boat waxes where they left the fiberglass in the weather for like 5 years and then checked and reported back every year as to the overall performance and the hands down winner was Collinite <<<<maverick says

If someone is going to only wax/polish there boat every 5 years.. well, never mind. My .08 worth is this.

1.Wetsand the ENTIRE boat. This will remove scratches/oxy and everything else. (It'll look bad but don't sweat it)
2. Buff with Polish/light compound (with buffer, not by hand)
3. Buff with Polish/light compound again (Yea, you are tired and thinking omg, why did I start this project)
4. If you like what you see... and only if you like what you see - put some good wax on it. It will be all ""Pimped out with some Bling".

I know this is a lot of work. But we do it and that is about the only way to really get all to look it's very best.

CAT says, "If you don't have time to do it right the first time... How you gonna find time to do it again". <<<<Shop motto

Bling it on



Name:   Tallyman - Email Member
Subject:   OK - Now For the Truth
Date:   4/2/2007 4:13:24 PM

Mother's Boat Wax works best on bumpers. Get something else for the hull.



Name:   Maverick - Email Member
Subject:   OK - Now For the Truth
Date:   4/2/2007 5:04:40 PM

Cat is right if you have a dull really oxidized boat. But once you are done the cleaner / wax application is all you need to do on a annual basis and the boat will shine, guaranteed.

No I do not wax my boat every 5 years, I clean and wax every Spring. The test was over a 5 year period. But test was interesting as a lot of big name waxes broke down after 6 months or so.

By the way the best solution for getting those black marks off your hull rubber bumper strips is Acetone. Just do not get it on the gelcoat.



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Geez, I thought....
Date:   4/2/2007 7:04:33 PM

I was describing a difficult waxing procedure. I can compound and wax a 24' boat in an afternoon in one step. Wonder when was the last time CAT personally went through all the steps he describes on his own boat!!

3M makes good stuff..



Name:   CAT BOAT - Email Member
Subject:   MAV......
Date:   4/2/2007 8:50:41 PM

Mav... just messing with you. OSMS, Once.. and that is all I wanted.



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Another tip.....
Date:   4/2/2007 9:50:49 PM

similar to Mav's acetone on rub rail. Alumabright (phosphoric acid) diluted to about 1/3 strength is great for removing the scum line off fiberglass boats that stay in the water all summer. Mop it on and leave it a few minutes (3-5) and rinse off. Works like a charm, but don't use full strength and don't leave on too long--it'll eat up your boat!



Name:   Maverick - Email Member
Subject:   Watch Out
Date:   4/2/2007 10:40:34 PM

feb:

I will spend well over 2 hours shining a pair of bumpers, but NEVER a dock.

LOL



Name:   Maverick - Email Member
Subject:   Advise on Bling
Date:   4/2/2007 10:57:26 PM

Pike:

Here are the boat wax test results:

It has been our experience that on the Emerald Coast,
under all storage conditions, Collinite Fleetwax out-
performs, outlasts, gives better protection, looks
better from the first day, and is still looking good
when all the other (new and improved) products have
long since washed off.

Furthermore, we have found Collinite Fleetwax to be
superior to any other over the counter product in terms
of gloss and serviceability over the long haul.

The following table shows the top five results from
a third party study on boat waxes. As you will
notice, the two paste waxes, Collinite Fleetwax and
Four Seasons Treewax stand out above all the rest.



Initial Results | After 1 month | After 3 months | Overall Rank

Brand Type Gloss Beading Gloss Beading Gloss Beading

Collinite
Fleetwax Paste Excellent Excellent Excellent Excellent Excellent Excellent 1

Star-brite
Premium Liquid V.Good Good Good Good Poor Fair 5

Trewax Paste
Four Seasons Excellent Excellent Excellent Excellent V.Good V.Good 2

Dolphinite
Liquid V.Good V.Good Good V.Good Good Good 3

West Liquid
Premium Good Fair Good Good Good Good 4


Data reprinted from the November 1997 issue of
Powerboat Reports and repeated yearly since with
similar results.




Name:   LMartin - Email Member
Subject:   Great advise..how bout seats
Date:   4/3/2007 8:32:30 AM

Now that the outside of the boat is all spiffed up, what about the seats. Any advise/products on cleaning the mildew off the seats and KEEPING IT OFF. Surely there is something out there that can kill this stuff.



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Great advise..how bout seats
Date:   4/3/2007 9:18:42 AM

Don't recommend it, but I have used Clorox Clean-up. Obviously Clorox is not good for the threads that hold the cushions together, but it works. If you have moisture and mildew inside the cushions in the foam, nothing will work until you are able to dry out the inside.

I'm sure others have a better solution than bleach.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Great advise..how bout seats
Date:   4/3/2007 9:44:45 AM

Sunlight kills mold and mildew. The stains left behind are another matter. Try Fantasic Cleaner or Mean Green, both are good cleaners.



Name:   PC Al - Email Member
Subject:   Great advise..how bout seats
Date:   4/3/2007 10:37:26 AM

We use Soft-Scrub on everything on the inside, seats and fiberglass. Does a good job and is not harmful to anything.







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