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PikeSki
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So how does this work?
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4/17/2007 10:43:55 AM
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OK, with less than 2 weeks left until May 1st and no significant rain in sight how does this lake level thing work exactly?
I have seen posts on the forum that hint at the fact that May 1st is when they start generating power for the summer months and that the water level on May 1 is about as high as it will get for the summer.
Can anyone confirm / deny this information?
If this is the case then it doesn't look like we'll get above 486' for the summer.
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Toni
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So how does this work?
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4/17/2007 11:08:08 AM
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According to Jim Drew at Alabama Power, they have reduced power generation to almost nothing. And, they have reduced the amount of flow normally required downstream in order to bring the lake up during this very dry spring. We did get over an inch of rain and the lake has come up several inches. Do another rain dance!
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Lakeman
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So how does this work?
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4/17/2007 11:11:11 AM
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Since all the lakes on the Coosa are above summer pool already why not realease more downstream from them?
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head
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So how does this work?
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4/17/2007 11:32:43 AM
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Lakeman, you know that this is APC's way to punish the big boat owners If we would get rid of our big boats APC would let the lake rise.
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Lakeman
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So how does this work?
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4/17/2007 12:40:02 PM
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LOL. I knew it had to be you or LakeFun to answer that one.
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Nautique
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So how does this work?
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4/17/2007 12:59:53 PM
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head, how can you make such a statement about the big boats. they could care less if the water comes up. Most of all of them are at marina's where there is plenty of water.
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SandyCreekman
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So how does this work?
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4/17/2007 6:39:05 PM
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the good thing is April rain is actually running about normal at the Lake. It was slightly below avg over the winter. Just wish the did not let Lake down quite so much during winter. Let's hope APCO does not use Lake much in May to generate power...that's about our only hope to getting anywhere near full pool. By the way, I've heard some recently say that if this trend continues at Lake it will surely impact real estate values.
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LifeTime Laker
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"Trend"? What trend?
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4/17/2007 6:52:28 PM
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We haven't had a drought year since 2000, before that I think it was way back in the 80's when we had low summer lake levels. If by 'trend' you mean the 10ft draw down you can bet your bottom dollar that it will continue till at least 2013 when the license is renewed.
Smart money is buying while the doom and gloom folks are running scared of a little low water.
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LakeLady1
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I've heard the same as SandyC
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4/17/2007 7:30:59 PM
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about lake level and real estate. The lake was down last summer as well. I remember over Labor Day we were nearly 3.5 feet below normal. I don't know if you want to call it a trend, but I've hear a number of folks questioning if it's going to continue to be a problem.
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roswellric
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Yes
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4/17/2007 8:56:56 PM
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It is a trend, probably due to golbal warming. The lake will be dry in 5 years never to return again. I'd sell now while you have the chance. Uh........how much do you want?
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au67
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Trend
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4/17/2007 8:58:36 PM
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As long as we don't have adequate rain, this trend will continue. Conspiracy theories and rumors won't change that fact.
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PC Al
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2013 permit not in stone.
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4/17/2007 9:17:33 PM
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The 2013 license is not set in stone, as I have said before. There at least three Alabama Power lakes that asked for and received permission to alter their permits for draw down and filling levels this winter and are all in much better shape at this time because of it. Too bad Lake Martin did not have the foresight to do the same.
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au67
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Alteration of permits
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4/17/2007 9:45:05 PM
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Why did "they" ask to change the operating guidelines for lake levels? Did "they" know that it was not going to rain? Wouldn't "they" want Lake Martin to be full also to maximize profits through hydro generation?
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LakeLady1
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huh?
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4/17/2007 10:35:58 PM
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gosh what did I saw to deserve all that rambling. I'm just saying the past 12 months have been tough with water levels and some folks are concerned.
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PC Al
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Alteration of permits
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4/17/2007 10:49:55 PM
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I don’t understand it any better than you do, but yes, the dry spring was predicted. Logan Martin asked to just drop three feet this winter because of what was predicted and were granted permission. Smith Lake’s winter level is 14 feet down and they have been down less than 8 feet every day in 2007. Lake Harris (Wedowee), above us on the Tallapoosa, has a start to fill date of April 1 on their license and because of the predicted dry spring, started coming up several weeks early and are ahead of their fill schedule at this time. As I have stated in earlier posts, the Harris early filling hurt our lake some. I should say in my opinion it hurt because a few people had stated that it did not matter. Everybody has a right to their opinion. Common sense tells me Alabama Power wishes it had asked for an alteration on our lake schedule too, but for whatever reason, it did not happen.
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Lakeman
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huh?
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4/17/2007 11:56:30 PM
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LOLLOLOLOLOL. LMAO. Ros you dog.
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Lakeman
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2013 permit not in stone.
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4/18/2007 12:03:35 AM
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Lets see. " There are at least three Alabama Power Lakes that asked for and received permission, " and " Too bad Lake Martin did not have the foresight to do the same ". Ok, for all you brainstems out there, APCO manages all these lakes.
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Smitty
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So how does this work?
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4/18/2007 8:35:35 AM
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If the level stays where it is....what are the effects on us aside from boat docking dillemas? Am not making a point....just asking.
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Feb
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So how does this work?
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4/18/2007 8:52:25 AM
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I think Smitty, and Lakeman can tell us for sure. It may in someway disrupt the fish as far as normal bedding and things of this nature. Although, many experts say fishing is better at low pool.
I would think the disruption of full pool might change the habitat for bedding and etc. I think fish might adjust after some time.
Many of us may have to move our seawalls out and give us more shore line. The excess property could provide for tomato gardens. LOL
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LifeTime Laker
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2013 permit not in stone, NOT.
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4/18/2007 9:15:22 AM
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The 2013 permit is SET IT STONE. The rule curve however, can be varied from with permision from the FERC. As I stated before, all the water needed to fill all those other lakes you mentioned, would not fill Lake Martin. If you are so disturbed and angry over the water level, sell and move to another lake. Lake Lanier is VERY nice.
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roswellric
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Can't do that
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4/18/2007 10:14:38 AM
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Digging holes for the tomatoes might kill a native amoeba.
You know when I was looking for property, my Lake Lanier experience with water level fluctuations led me to deeper water. The real estate folks thought I was crazy since the water always comes up to full pool.
These levels are really tough to manage with swings in the weather. I wouldn't want the job.
BTW: Watch the condo's start clamoring for "service docks"
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8hcap
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2013 permit not in stone, NOT.
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4/18/2007 10:33:13 AM
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You sound just like that "Forum Manager"
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PC Al
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Pot shot for Laker
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4/18/2007 10:48:04 AM
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Laker,
Your calling someone disturbed and upset is like the pot calling the kettle black. You take pot shots at individuals more than anyone else on this forum. And pot shots at individuals to me is much worse than shots at entities like Alabama Power. As I read this forum, you get disturbed and upset at more post than everyone else combined. You have made Jim seem like a nice guy. And, if something is set in stone, it cannot be changed. And for your information, Smith Lake is about half the size of Lake Martin (in acres). If they start 2007 six feet higher than winter pool, then that amount of water would be approximately three feet on Martin. Three plus five would be eight feet above winter pool for us now or just two feet down from summer pool. Most of us would be very pleased with that amount of water. So, if you want to keep score, count this as one pot shot by me to an individual – you.
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LifeTime Laker
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How ignorant are you?
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4/18/2007 11:33:49 AM
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One question PC AL, how would you propose to get that water from Smith Lake half way across the state to Lake Martin?
But for the record, I agree about Lakeman, he is a crotchity ole f@rt...lol
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Lakeman
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How ignorant are you?
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4/18/2007 11:40:54 AM
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LOL. LTL if you don't watch it you're really gonna set PC AL off.
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LifeTime Laker
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Alteration of permits
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4/18/2007 12:01:35 PM
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"Common sense tells me Alabama Power wishes it had asked for an alteration on our lake schedule too, but for whatever reason, it did not happen."
The "plug" date for Martin is Feb. 17th. Harris is April 1. That gave "them" the power of hindsight. By the time the 'plug' for Harris was coming around "they' knew we were several inches below normal rainfall.
But, it is really a conspiracy to drive down prices so RL and APCO bigwigs can buy up all the Martin property on the cheap. Are you ready to sell yet. Better do it and move to Smith before they haul all that water over here.....LMAO
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Lakeman
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Alteration of permits
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4/18/2007 12:51:27 PM
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Yes! That is also the reason for the merging of LML and the realestate magazines. I would reccommend for those unhappy with the progression of the water level on Lake Martin to rush and sell and move to Lake Weis and Smith before the prices on Lake Martin are driven down to the bone and folks will have to sell for only the property taxes.
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PC Al
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How ignorant are you?
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4/18/2007 2:07:46 PM
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I’m OK. But I don’t mind a little confrontation now and then when I think it is deserved. I enjoy this forum and get a kick out of the different opinions. I have bitten my tongue a lot of times when I read some of the post, but you hate to take cheap shots at individuals. Some people sure don’t mind though. To each his own.
P.S. - If I ever call any of you ignorant, please accept my apologies ahead of time. Hope I never stoop that low though.
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LifeTime Laker
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Read your dictionary.
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4/18/2007 4:05:38 PM
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Ignorant has no relation to intelligence. Ignorant means uneducated and if you think that water in Smith Lake can be sent to Martin, then you obviuosly flunked geography. But I can assure you that education and intelligence have little relation to each other in today's world. I know a couple of blathering idiots that have two masters degrees each, and I know some folks that are very intelligent that only have HS diplomas.
If you were offended, well, I know a couple of counselors. They have two masters degrees each!!
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PC Al
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Read your dictionary too.
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4/18/2007 6:23:15 PM
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I accept your apology. And while you have your dictionary, look up how to spell permission - as in a couple of threads ago: “The rule curve however, can be varied from with permision from the FERC.”
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Hadenuff
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Read your dictionary too.
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4/18/2007 7:29:06 PM
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All you guys need to kiss and make up. This bickering makes me nervous and is going to make me start drinking..... on second thought. :-)
As I have said in the past.... remember the "Mimi Farms" LOL.
Enjoyed the posts!!! But PLEASE stop before the punching starts, I'm a small guy and can't run very fast either.
Hope everyone has a great afternoon.
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LifeTime Laker
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I didn't apologize.
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4/18/2007 9:24:47 PM
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Nor will I. I misspell some words from time to time when I forget to spellcheck. But I do understand how the lakes are managed and I certainly know enough geography to know what is possible. I only respond with facts not emotions.
The fill date for Martin is not even here yet. The lake is coming up everyday, but if it doesn't get 'full' this year I will enjoy what is here and look forward to next year. I choose to appreciate the 486 we do have and not bemoan the 4 we don't. I have posted several links to articles where APCO speaks to the issue. "They" are doing all they can, including generating with coal which costs about 100 times as much, but the bottom line is, if you don't have water, 'they' couldn't care less. They are not in business to provide you with recreation.
I guess my arguments must have hit home if all you can do is find a misspelled word to criticize.
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BoatsRFun
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I didn't apologize.
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4/18/2007 9:40:25 PM
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Man both you guys need to take a long relaxing boat ride, now dont that sound good, cant wait till this weekend, Peace and Happy Boat Riding
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PC Al
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I didn't apologize.
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4/18/2007 9:58:47 PM
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Sorry everyone else. I’m through. (I assume everyone else caught that the apology thing was a joke).
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mckaygmc
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2013 permit not in stone, NOT.
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4/18/2007 10:35:56 PM
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But, Lake Lanier allows BIG boats.....lol
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mckaygmc
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Can't do that
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4/18/2007 10:45:09 PM
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wont the added water front property make you proprty values go up?
oh no then the taxes would also go up...lol
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Lakeman
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I didn't apologize.
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4/18/2007 11:02:08 PM
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As Bill Clinton said," go baby ".
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| Name: |
rude evin
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I didn't apologize........
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4/18/2007 11:07:30 PM
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Let me get this straight, PC Al and LTL are having trouble communuicating with each other so let me help out; PC Al to LTL...." He has no enemies but is intensely disliked by his friends" LTL to PC Al...." I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial" Thanks for the entertainment!!
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