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Name:   Crimson4Lif - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   4/29/2007 10:05:20 AM

I don't usually post on here but instead just read......but after taking the boat out for the first spin this weekend a few things came to mind. First and foremost...with the water situation the way it is...there will be some very serious injuries this summer. All these little islands sticking up and all the night time boating activity...someone is definitely going to run around. I can see it happening more than once. Especially in the Sandy Creek area. Second.....at Jim's BS a AL Pwr employee was there and we asked about the water of course and he just laughed and said it is almost a done thing that LM will never see full pool this summer if no substantial rain comes. Which we all kinda know this but it sucked hearing if for real from someone who works there. He said 486.5 is about the highest it will go.....maybe 487. I hope he is wrong but it really makes sense. Last....while we were checking out the new mansions along the shoreline....we took a second to look up and thank God for the wonderful weather and beautiful lake that we were getting to enjoy because even with the water down there is no a more beautiful lake to be able to enjoy your summer on. It was just beautiful!!!!!



Name:   LakeLady1 - Email Member
Subject:   I believe that's correct
Date:   4/29/2007 12:13:21 PM

We need APCO/Southern Company to go to Corps of Engineers immediate to get some relief on the downstream water requirements. There will be more injuries this summer indeed. APCO is offically calling this the worst water situation at LM in 50 years.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Get used to it.
Date:   4/29/2007 12:45:09 PM

The water IS NOT coming up to full pool this year. A lot of boats will be injured but few people, just like every other drought year we have had. Unless of course you drive one of the offshore boats at 50+ mph, then somebody may get hurt, but it is nobodies fault but their own. The marinas will be busy replacing lower units and props this year for sure.

APCO wants water as bad as we do. But for them it is about revenue to you it is about your entertainment. And frankly, APCO couldn't care less about our enjoyment.

Minimum downstream flows will never be altered. It is not only an economic but an environmental issue. The lakes that were raised early were not done by altering the minimum flows, but holding more back earlier while still maintaining downstream water.



Name:   BigFoot - Email Member
Subject:   Get used to it.
Date:   4/29/2007 2:11:19 PM

The situation that bothers me the most is.........idiot parents dragging innocent children on tubes, boards, etc. and slinging them into the shallows to turn around...thinking I suppose that they are providing them with a fun time......so very risky!!



Name:   RidgeRider - Email Member
Subject:   Get used to it.
Date:   4/29/2007 2:19:09 PM

Actually, I have spoken recently with folks at APCO and Southern Company. I believe they do care and are looking for solutions. They are not using the lake right now for any power generation, other than the releases they are required to make to comply with COE requirements. They are looking into trying to alter the COE downstream water requirements for the future. Also keep in mind several southern company and APCO execs have places on the Lake and you'd better believe hey care about the lake level. The Southern Company folks have told me so.
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Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Get used to it.
Date:   4/29/2007 4:56:43 PM

APCO execs have places on all the lakes. That is another good reason for the feds having control. I am quite certain that everybody you talk to will pay lip service to anyone that complains. Bottom line, is we still aren't full.

Elmer Harris ( former president of APCO) has a place on Logan Martin, but it still flooded all those years until the last relicensing when they started a winter drawdown. Up till then Logan Martin was full pool year round and flooded almost every year. Take a ride on that lake and you don't see too many places built close to the full pool line.



Name:   Forum Manager - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   4/29/2007 7:45:55 PM

How is a tiny island visible above the waterline more dangerous than the same piece of land a few inches below the waterline? Seems to me that a visible hazard is preferable to one lurking just out of site.

If the lake could still rise 10 feet or so, I'd see your point. But if something is one foot out of the water now, the most it can ever be underwater is three feet. And zipping around in water that's only three feet deep would also be considered an accident waiting to happen.



Name:   2thelake - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   4/29/2007 11:51:10 PM

Well...look who's back! I thought you were still out there swimming in your 99% full lake!



Name:   Smitty - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   4/30/2007 7:10:34 AM

Thanks for the post.....good message!!



Name:   8hcap - Email Member
Subject:   Get used to it.
Date:   4/30/2007 9:56:26 AM

That is news to me. I have been driving from Bham to Atlanta many times a year for the past 35 years and the lake has been drawn down every year. What I understand they did at the last re-license process is to add two months to the full pool plan and reduce the amoutn of the draw down. You could relly see the difference this year.

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Name:   Forum Manager - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   4/30/2007 12:07:35 PM

As a matter of fact, I have been enjoying the lake. I guess I could join the crowd and sit back and moan and cry about what I don't have, but I prefer to enjoy what I do have. And what I have is a lake that I can still boat in (miraculously, I haven't run aground even once this year), swim in, fish in, and watch the sun rise and set on, among other things.

I thought I was enjoying the lake this year. But you all seem to be having such a good time acting like selfish spoiled brats, I guess I don't know what I'm missing.

And I notice that you didn't answer my question.





Name:   8hcap - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   4/30/2007 5:02:26 PM

I guess you were asking Lakelady1 the question but I will agree with you on this one. I also agree that Lake Martin is better at 486 than any other lake i know of at full pool.

But what I think you are missing is the long range consequences of the current draw down plan. We are likely to lose some part of the water wars which will affect the total flow available to all uses. I am no expert, but if you do not draw down the lake as much, or you draw down and raise based on current conditions, there is a better chance of meeting everbody's needs. Right now we are not served by the inflexible plan in place. We know AL Power has applied for variances in plan at other impoundments, why have they not done the same for Lake Martin?

whiloe we are answering and asking questions, are you or have you been associated with Alabama Power or the Southern Company at any time?

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Name:   Forum Manager - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   4/30/2007 7:41:18 PM

My unanswered question-- which has nothing to do with long-term effects-- was this: How is a tiny island visible above the waterline more dangerous than the same piece of land a few inches below the waterline?

And no, I've never been associated with APC, Southern Co., or anything remotely similar. So I have no vested interest in water levels, nor in making APC look like heroes or villains.



Name:   Pier Pressure - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   5/1/2007 1:22:30 AM

Some Hazard buoys are going under because their spring loaded cable systems are failing (if they even have them). Right now there is maybe 6 inches showing of the Hazard buoy in the Narrow between Kowaliga Bay and the Sail Club. The buoy itself is now a hazard.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   5/1/2007 9:32:03 AM

The Sailing Club is now just a redneck landmark. As in when giving directions....'go past where the sailing club USED to be'.....lol



Name:   8hcap - Email Member
Subject:   Few observations
Date:   5/1/2007 9:33:22 AM

I said I agreed with you on the island thing.

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