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Name:   Broke Point - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 8:10:22 AM

Well now Piney Woods is sold, Dockside is not opening, Stillwaters Windjammer closed years ago, and no signs of other places being developed, doesn't it seem that the restaurant business serving boaters on Lake Martin is going backwards? We enjoy boating to various eating locations and what do you do now. The water is down limiting dockage at Sinclairs, you can't dock at Lakeside, the little place called Frankie's doesn't really appeal to me and neither Russell Lands nor Alabama Power seem headed in the direction of turning loose of land to a future restaurant entrepreneur. Does anybody really even care?



Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 8:19:37 AM

I'm not even hungry anymore



Name:   mckaygmc - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 8:50:32 AM

from the way is see have seen the trend developing. Boaters wont be allowed in the area much longer any way. I am new to the area and have never seen a lake that seems to be anti boating as much as this area.





Name:   8hcap - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 9:23:09 AM

what are you talking about? Has someone hollered at you in your boat? Have you been removed from the lake while boating?

If you are talking about the big boat law there is a lively discussion going on and there is a new law that is being ignored.

I do not have a big boat but I am fine withy the ones on the lake being operated by Cat and his friends in a responsible manner. In fact, the big boats put out less wake than a "wake boat".

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Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 10:00:33 AM

I see you are starting something.. :-)



Name:   8hcap - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 10:29:44 AM

why not - we need some excitement!!!



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 10:44:09 AM

Big boat gas prices are gonna take care of big boat issues--@ $3.00-5.00/mile the big twins may be in the shed this year. BTW, used boat prices are in the toilet this year, and sales of new boats are off 15% according to industry spokesman.

As far as restaurants on the water go, it's hard to make a living when your crowd goes away for 8 months of the year.



Name:   rock - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 1:32:32 PM

If we had zero restaurants on the lake what difference does it make. We still have the best lake around.






Name:   Broke Point - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 2:00:25 PM

Lake Martin is the best lake around. Boating to a restaurant is a great way to entertain guests who don't have a lake place. It is why I have been a lake lover at Lake Martin since 1997.

As for the boat law, that is the most stupid law going. Why not just say what you want. No LOUD fast boats no matter what size. I'm not saying no fast boats because that rules out the 70+mph bass boaters. I'm not saying big boats. What I am specifically saying is no Fountains, etc., that are really LOUD racing boats with usually a guy and a gold chain and good looking girls in nice little outfits! Seems that is what the boat law tried to do doesn't it! And something about someone flushing something into the water like most folks just do while swimming.

As for the lake not supporting restaurants for 8 months of the year, that is somewhat of a factor of water level. Why drop a perfectly good body of water 10 feet each year just because. Lake water levels should really be a factor of how much rain the basin receives... not just because. Maybe the relicensing will correct this.





Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   "just because"
Date:   5/2/2007 2:06:00 PM





Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   "just because"
Date:   5/2/2007 2:07:36 PM

Some free advice..... "better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"



Name:   Ulysses E. McGill - Email Member
Subject:   Problem solved
Date:   5/2/2007 2:21:50 PM

Throw a BBQ grill and a cooler of food in the boat. With the lake down, there will be even more islands available for a cookout.



Name:   BiggerDog - Email Member
Subject:   "just because"
Date:   5/2/2007 6:17:14 PM

you should take your own advice



Name:   Hadenuff - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 6:24:11 PM

I want to be sure I understand what I think I have been reading on this forum.
1. Most big boat owners can not afford to buy the gas to run their boats.
2. If, by chance, they sell enough eggs to fill the tank, they are too stupid to navigate in anything less than a full pool.
3. Mountains of lower units will soon be seen at or near the marinas.
4. Most folk do not like big boat owners , unless they are Cat or his friends.
5. Since most big boat owners are rednecks who wear gold chains and have pretty young girls riding in their boats, the restaurants are going out of business to further discourage the fast, loud boats.

I like the way you people think!!!
Makes me feel smart. Now can we get own with something that you have not even thought of? Were is the water this year? :-)
Before you answer...... just remember, I love you too.




Name:   mckaygmc - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 7:01:09 PM

maybe its just me . but in the last few months i have been getting a feeling services for the boater are slowly disapearing. eating places, bouys being removed, boat length law.

But to answer your other question No no other boater has been unfreindly on this awsome lake.
It seems as though Big Brother is the one with the issues.



Name:   mckaygmc - Email Member
Subject:   Problem solved
Date:   5/2/2007 7:04:49 PM

BBQ on an Island?......now that sounds like a GREAT idea



Name:   Hadenuff - Email Member
Subject:   Problem solved
Date:   5/2/2007 7:16:45 PM

It sure sounds good to me. I make World Famous BBQ sauce and have been known to cook a mean BBQ chicken from time to time. Save me a tiny spot on the island, I'd like to join you.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Nah...
Date:   5/2/2007 7:40:28 PM

..... its more fun to harangue you guys when you make idiotic posts. I guess you think they draw it down 'just because' too.

Originally 50ft draw down, then 30, now 10. Adjustments have been made as technology has improved. I am in favor of a 5ft draw down and feel certain it will happen in 2013. But I understand why there MUST be a draw down. But they work on 100 year min/max rules and it was just in 1980 that the dam overflowed, and that was with 10ft draw down so who knows. With satellite technology and computer modeling it could probably be managed with a 5ft dd. But I am not an engineer and wont try to second guess those that are.

But I can tell you this, the secondary dam that was built after the 1980 flood was engineered with 10ft dd in place. If it is determined that a 5ft dd would not be enough to contain a flood of that magnitude, with what is in place, it wont happen. Even with 27 gates wide open, you can only let so much water out. 1980 proved that when the water went over and around the dam.



Name:   mckaygmc - Email Member
Subject:   Problem solved
Date:   5/2/2007 7:46:56 PM

when and where?.....im getting hungry now..lol



Name:   BiggerDog - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 8:42:28 PM

Be careful knocking the "pretty young girls" - i think the gold chains are absurd, but the pretty young girls are half the reason for going to the lake. Also, no offense, but when you are going to knock people's intelligence(while I might agree with you), you need to use the proper words - second to last sentence - Where, not were, and on, not own.



Name:   AnchorbayDon - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 8:55:07 PM

I struggled fro 8 years to run a restaurant at Anchor Bay. After Memorial Day, business is brisk and all is well in the Summer. Then, when they tee up the first football in August, people stay home and business drops off like a rock regardless of the water level.

After the crowds go away, there's not enough business to keep everybody employed. By Thanksgiving, you are so far in the red that all of the profits of the Summer are gone and you are really hurting, so you close down for December and January.

You have to start all over again with a completely new crew in the Spring and you spend all the training time, etc to get ready for the season.

Until there are more full timers around Lake Martin, I would not expect to see many decent or half decent restaurants, unless they are subsidized by RL (like Sinclairs or WP)

The only person who was reasonably succesful at that gig was Greg Cecil, before his place burned. He was able to thrive because he had the place in AC and on the Lake and he could move staff back & forth with the seasons.

I don't know why Dockside is not opening this year, but I'd bet they couldn't find a decent manager interested in a 4-5 month job.





Name:   Hadenuff - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/2/2007 9:15:35 PM

Hey, thanks for the correction. My JD and Coke must have kicked in. :-)
I know better most of the time, just in a hurry to BBQ. Have a great day and be careful.



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   LTL...
Date:   5/3/2007 7:05:52 AM

Do you remember what the lake level was just before the flood happened? And, is that the time the old bridge was washed out below the dam?



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   LTL...
Date:   5/3/2007 8:05:35 AM

It was early spring and yes, that is what washed the bridge out.



Name:   BiggerDog - Email Member
Subject:   Restaurants and Lake Martin
Date:   5/3/2007 11:21:26 AM

you as well!







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