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Pier Pressure
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Hazard markers and HOBOs
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10/8/2007 4:48:16 PM
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After wandering out a little too late last night I came to realize that hazard buoys' becaons are of no use when they are laying on the ground. I came upon two areas which could have left me smiling for the cameras this morning when the sun came up. (high and dry).
I have a proposal for the HOBOs and the rest of the Lake Martin community. Get enough donations and contributions to purchase some hazard markers and I will assist transporting and erecting them on the newly visable hazards.
There are alot of ideas of how to permanently mark these areas (reflective signs, flashing lights, etc.). And some which are non-permanent since this drought is only supposed to be temporary.
Some sites which sell flashing markers-
http://www.cetsolar.com/marine501.htm
http://www.premiermaterials.com/Premiermaterials/model601.htm
http://www.oksolar.com/n_cart/search.asp?cat=Visual%20Signals&subcat=Marine%20Solar%20Powered%20Beacons
http://www.lighthouseman.com/solar_beacon.htm
Cheaper alternatives-
I would even welcome yellow traffic flashers mounted on a-frames
http://www.wctproducts.com/barricade_light_solar_page.htm
http://www.wctproducts.com/plywood_barricade_page.htm
These could be retrieved once the water starts coming up and stored by HOBO officers.
Just something to bring up at the next meeting.
-Tony
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| Name: |
Osms
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Hazard markers and HOBOs
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10/8/2007 5:03:47 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. APCo funds the floating markers and local volunteers maintain them, but there are over 300 around the lake with most laying on the ground high and dry right now.
This is definitely a "boat at your own risk lake" now and will be for the foreseeable future. We'll contact APCo and see if they have any ideas or plans. Marking the hazards with a stationery marker creates another hazard when the lake rises so I'm not sure that would be the best idea.
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| Name: |
Pier Pressure
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| Subject: |
Hazard markers and HOBOs
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10/8/2007 5:09:44 PM
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Understood that the temporary markers would be considered crude at best, and if not kept up and taken down when water starts to rise they would just become trash. That is why it would be an active project and any that would be placed would be removed when the water reaches a pre-determined height. (regardless of the date winter or otherwise).
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| Name: |
Pier Pressure
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Just my observation
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10/8/2007 5:13:49 PM
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I seen at least three boaters navigating at above plane speed and it was pitch dark. Any of these could have impacted the new islands. If something is not done to mark them, there will continue to be beached boaters and serious injuries will happen. This shouldn't be a red-tape issue. We are talking about serious loss of life and property damage.
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| Name: |
Pier Pressure
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| Subject: |
Other options...
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10/8/2007 5:23:13 PM
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http://www.galls.com/category2.html?assort=general_catalog&cat=3148
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| Name: |
roswellric
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Hazard markers and HOBOs
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10/8/2007 5:28:35 PM
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There are better ways of marking the lake. When I made the observation a couple of years ago it was met by the standard response that generally said "if you don't know the lake (like us old timers) then don't use it at night". Few people had any desire to change anything.
Lanier for example (Corps of Engineers) has a pretty standard system of markers for hazards, humps, channels etc. Some indicate don't pass between this stick and the shore etc. Channels and creeks are marked with red/green markers much as on the coast. If you have ever been caught out on the lake in a ddownpour you can learn to really appreciate these markers.
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JIM
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Hazard markers and HOBOs
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10/8/2007 5:34:23 PM
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Face it ric, there are not to many people with any smarts in this thread..
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Was I supposed to take offense by your statement?
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| Name: |
rock
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hazard bouy
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10/8/2007 6:10:17 PM
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I can't believe anybody would run the lake during daytime
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| Name: |
F1Fan
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Just my observation
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10/8/2007 7:06:43 PM
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PP - we're really talking about Darwinism at work here, aren't we?
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| Name: |
Osms
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Common Sense
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10/8/2007 7:39:56 PM
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At some point, one has to exhibit common sense and stop trying to navigate this lake at night with the known hazards we have with the water down.
Every accident I've heard of this year has occurred at night. It's difficult enough to drive in familiar areas during the daylight--forget it at night. If we need to mark areas it's for day use.
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| Name: |
Pier Pressure
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I see how it is...
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10/8/2007 11:57:47 PM
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Doesn't make you money, or look good so you aren't interrested? A small investment in time and money could save someones life, or at least provide for a more enjoyable environment for those that can still use the lake..... Guess that isn't important enough to rally the troops.
Or is it that you are just jealous that some still have found a way to enjoy what little water there is?
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| Name: |
Maverick
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I see how it is...
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10/9/2007 12:17:02 AM
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Actually PP I emailed the Marine Police last week regarding the buoy out in front of my house which is a large rock pile to see if they would allow me to place a solar lighted buoy light on top of the buoy at my expense before there was a fatal accident at this site. As this is by no means the first such accident on the rock pile in the past 4 -5 years.
Have yet to hear back but they have been having email issues for the past several weeks and would willing to bet they are still having the issues. So I will call them tomorrow and see what they say about allowing me to light this buoy.
Will let you know what they say after I speak with them.
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| Name: |
Lakeman
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I see how it is...
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10/9/2007 1:04:14 AM
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PP, very good idea. I will be glad to help.
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| Name: |
BDGRIFF
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Just do it.
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10/9/2007 1:42:00 AM
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What is the worst they could do if you took it upon yourself to put a solar lighted buoy light out there to prevent serious injury to someone? The most is fine you and knowing the Judges that work in this county and enjoy this lake, they would judge in your favor. The only way the would know is if they read this thread.
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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Just do it.
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10/9/2007 9:05:57 AM
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Count me in.
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| Name: |
waterdog
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| Subject: |
wrong approach
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10/9/2007 1:36:35 PM
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Gentleman,
Thinking strategically about the lake conditions a few months from now,
it may be necessary to think about stop signs and street lights for people cruising the lake at night.
In all seriousness, anything to make lake traffic safer, night or day is a good idea, especially with current lake levels.
Thanks for your efforts.
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| Name: |
Spot Remover
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| Subject: |
Just my observation
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Date:
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10/9/2007 6:40:56 PM
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Golly gee!!! Has anyone thought about having a depth finder and actually using it?
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