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Name:   NautiMinded - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/13/2008 9:18:55 AM

There is a great amount of interest in this year’s presidential elections, as everybody seems to recognize that our next president has to be a lot better than George Bush. The Democrats are riding high with two groundbreaking candidates — a woman and an African-American — while the conservative Republicans are in a quandary about their party’s nod to a quasi-liberal maverick, John McCain.

Each candidate is carefully pandering to a smorgasbord of special-interest groups, ranging from gay, lesbian and transgender people to children of illegal immigrants to working mothers to evangelical Christians.

There is one group no one has recognized, and it is the group that will decide the election: the Angry White Man. The Angry White Man comes from all economic backgrounds, from dirt-poor to filthy rich. He represents all geographic areas in America, from urban sophisticate to rural redneck, deep South to mountain West, left Coast to Eastern Seaboard.

His common traits are that he isn’t looking for anything from anyone — just the promise to be able to make his own way on a level playing field. In many cases, he is an independent businessman and employs several people. He pays more than his share of taxes and works hard.

The victimhood syndrome buzzwords — “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” — don’t resonate with him. “Press ‘one’ for English” is a curse-word to him. He’s used to picking up the tab, whether it’s the company Christmas party, three sets of braces, three college educations or a beautiful wedding.

He believes the Constitution is to be interpreted literally, not as a “living document” open to the whims and vagaries of a panel of judges who have never worked an honest day in their lives.

The Angry White Man owns firearms, and he’s willing to pick up a gun to defend his home and his country. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of others, and the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him.

The Angry White Man is not a metrosexual, a homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina — he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.

His last name and religion don’t matter. His background might be Italian, English, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, or Russian, and he might have Cherokee, Mexican, or Puerto Rican mixed in, but he considers himself a white American.

He’s a man’s man, the kind of guy who likes to play poker, watch football, hunt white-tailed deer, call turkeys, play golf, spend a few bucks at a strip club once in a blue moon, change his own oil and build things. He coaches baseball, soccer and football teams and doesn’t ask for a penny. He’s the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a couple of friends, drill an oil well, weld a new bumper for his truck, design a factory and publish books. He can fill a train with 100,000 tons of coal and get it to the power plant on time so that you keep the lights on and never know what it took to flip that light switch.

Women either love him or hate him, but they know he’s a man, not a dishrag. If they’re looking for someone to walk all over, they’ve got the wrong guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am.”

He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner.

He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.

Most important, the Angry White Man is pissed off. When his job site becomes flooded with illegal workers who don’t pay taxes and his wages drop like a stone, he gets righteously angry. When his job gets shipped overseas, and he has to speak to some incomprehensible idiot in India for tech support, he simmers. When Al Sharpton comes on TV, leading some rally for reparations for slavery or some such nonsense, he bites his tongue and he remembers. When a child gets charged with carrying a concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school, he takes note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement.

He also votes, and the Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It’s not that she is a woman. It’s that she is who she is. It’s the liberal victim groups she panders to, the “poor me” attitude that she represents, her inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax dollars that she wants to give to people who refuse to do anything for themselves.

There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men are members of the National Rifle Association, and all of them will vote against Hillary Clinton, just as the great majority of them voted for George Bush.

He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum.





Name:   Pontoonfisher - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/13/2008 1:12:13 PM

Awesome!!! Belongs on the cover of USA today.



Name:   Arnold - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/13/2008 6:34:09 PM

What?! She's the only angry white man in the runn'in now.



Name:   NautiMinded - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man...credits
Date:   3/14/2008 4:49:57 PM

Editor’s note: In the Feb. 10 edition of the Aspen Times Weekly, columnist Gary Hubbell, our own Redneck Tree-Hugger, wrote an opinion titled “In election 2008, don’t forget Angry White Man” that has since become something of a phenomenon.

Hubbell’s piece has made the rounds on the Internet, chiefly among conservative white males, and eventually landed on radio shows hosted by Neal Boortz, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. Needless to say, the column also generated a lot of activity at the newspaper: More than 1 million hits on our website, some 800 e-comments on the column, hundreds of phone calls to the newspaper’s beleaguered front office, and hundreds of letters to the editor.

The vast majority of these communications were favorable, but some thought Hubbell’s column was bitter, bigoted and/or misogynistic. Below is a representative, if small, sample from the hundreds of letters.

For more comments or to read the column itself, or go to www.aspentimes.com/hubbell




Name:   glen7297 - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/15/2008 9:43:09 PM

great post. Count on the angry white WOMAN to help beat Hillary in November. and PLEASE, every get out there and cast that vote.



Name:   PC Al - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/15/2008 11:14:43 PM

Coming from a long time conservative Republican, who George W. has turned into an Independent, I can definitely fit into the angry white man category. But I am angry at the price I am paying for gasoline, at the profits the oil companies are making, for the prices I am paying for almost everything I buy vs. what I was paying a couple of years ago and for the losses I am incurring on my investments in the last five months. I honestly don’t know how I am voting in November. Somebody from some party is going to have to show me something giving a glimpse of a light at the end of the tunnel before I decide how I vote.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/16/2008 12:06:24 AM

The profits the oil companies are making are not out of line with any other industry. Learn the difference between profit and profit margin before you start bashing oil companies. They work on a less than 10% margin.



Name:   JohnGalt - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/16/2008 8:46:29 AM

Maybe this article will shed some light on how some candidates feel about taxes.

URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a3yqQSjgNEEE&refer=home

Name:   Pontoonfisher - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/17/2008 11:00:12 AM

When you here that the oil companies are recorded record profits while we pay more at the pump it does tick the angry white man off. I will have to call you out on this one LTL. Bottom line is that they are making more money while we are paying more at the pump regardless of what there margin is. Their margin can actally go lower and they could record actual profit in dollars not as a percentage.



Name:   Pontoonfisher - Email Member
Subject:   Whoops- just proof read
Date:   3/17/2008 11:03:08 AM

When you here that the oil companies are recording recard profits while we pay more at the pump it does tick the angry white man off. I will have to call you out on this one LTL. Bottom line is that they are making more money while we are paying more at the pump regardless of what there margin is. Their margin can actally go lower and they could record recard actual profit in dollars not as a percentage.




Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Whoops- just proof read
Date:   3/17/2008 4:06:44 PM

So they are making record profits. SO WHAT? They are also making record expenditures. When you work on a profit margin, the higher the price the more the profit in dollars. The margin is still the same. I would like to see you run any viable business while only making a 10% margin. If you think you can do better, start an oil company and compete in the market place. In the meantime, do a little research and you will see that the GOVERNMENT makes more off every gallon of gas sold in this country than the oil companies. And what does the government provide? No raw material. No refining. No point of sale. NOTHING!! If you insist on being angry at someone, direct it at the right folks, THE POLITICIANS THAT ARE ROBBING YOU!!



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   A simple story
Date:   3/17/2008 6:05:08 PM

When I was 15 I worked at a Piggly Wiggly. Bread was .29 a loaf and gas was .75 a gallon. That is generous actually, because gas actgually fluctuated between .65 and .70. The bread ran on sale the first week of every month at 4/$1. Today that same loaf of Piggly Wiggly brand bread is $2.29. I bought gas today at $2.99. So since 1974 bread has gone up 9 times its price while gas has only gone up 4 times its price. My question to you is, why aren't you cussing the bakeries? It seems to me they are gouging you worse than the oil companies. What about the bakeries 'obscene' profits? What about thier profit margin? Why not boycott bread? Why not have governmet controls on bread prices? And here is the BIG question, how much does the GOVERNMENT make off each loaf of bread?

I'll be waiting to see your answers. I won't hold my breath!!



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   A map for you.
Date:   3/17/2008 6:15:30 PM

This is a link to a map that shows how much of combined taxes are on EVERY gallon of gasoline by state. Look it over and THEN tell me the oil companies are gouging us.

URL: Gasoline Taxes by state

Name:   John boy - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/17/2008 10:43:23 PM

I still favor the flat federal sales tax since it would tax monies spent including illegal and people working for cash. Basically the more you spend the more you pay, seems pretty simple with some tweaking for the low income.



Name:   Psycho - Email Member
Subject:   Whoops- just proof read
Date:   3/18/2008 7:24:21 AM

LTL I have to agree with you on this...when I hear someone complaining
about the cost of gas, I tell em they are lucky I'm not in charge or they would be paying 5 bucks a gallon I explain it to them like this. If you have a house thats worth 250,000.00 You dont put it up for sale for a hundred thousand because you want to help some family get a house....instead you price it at 275 and hope someone pays it......if it dont move for that price you drop it down until you find a price it will sell for.
....I remember telling a friend of mine several years ago that the SUV craze would come back to bite us...I could tell he didnt believe me...but when millions of people start driving cars that get 3 to 15 MPG less than their old cars...well, thats a huge increase.....welcome to supply and demand....the magic that controls the price.



Name:   Pontoonfisher - Email Member
Subject:   A map for you.
Date:   3/18/2008 7:25:13 AM

If people feel like bread is too expensive they just won't but it. That is why they don't cuss the bread companies. You don't need bread to live. Gas is a different story. Our economy is dependent on gas. We need gas. We are all at the mercy of the oil companies, the dwindling supply, and OPEC for how much we pay for gas. You have no choice but to pay the price. And when it's reported on the news that the oil companies are making record profits and the gas prices have skyrocketed it ticks people off.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   The angry white man
Date:   3/18/2008 8:48:57 AM

It is already here JohnBoy. It is called the FairTax. It is tweeaked to comepletley REMOVE the poor from the tax rolls. It is also called HR 25. Look it up. It is a grass roots movement that is growing every day.

URL: Fair Tax website

Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Correct link
Date:   3/18/2008 8:50:21 AM

Saw a missing period just as I hit send, sorrry.

www.fairtax.org

URL: http://www.fairtax.org

Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   A map for you.
Date:   3/18/2008 8:57:43 AM

Actually, bread is a staple and neccessary for life. But that may be to simple for you to figure out. Going without gas is jsut as easy. Buy a bicycle, or a moped, or a Segway. Supply and demand works EVERY time. A freind just bought a used Honda Hybrid. He is getting over 60mpg. He will pay for it in less than one year's fuel savings, just going back and forth to work. That is not counting trips from ATL to the lake or around town. If you aren't happy with the price of gas, get proactive to start buying less, not cussing those that make it for making to much profit.



Name:   Pontoonfisher - Email Member
Subject:   A map for you.
Date:   3/18/2008 11:33:29 AM

I am simply stating the perception that people have about the price of gas and the oil companies profits. I am proactive. I actually have a Civic and a Honda Minivan with variable cylinder management. My family recycles all plastic, paper, cardboard and aluminum. Even something as small as a pudding cup container. We always use the Civic whenever we go anywhere without the kids. I have backed down on the RPMs on the pontoon to save gas.

You get to excited on this website. Funny thing is that you are just like me. You think everybody else is an idiot.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   A map for you.
Date:   3/18/2008 3:42:34 PM

Actually I don't think anybody is an idiot until they prove it. As for you, I don't think that at all. But attacking the oil companies for making a profit is not real bright. What would you rather, they just shut down and quit making profit, and gas? What do you think happens to the price of gas then? I was just showing that the price of gas is still low in comparison to other things, the inflation rate included. Oil companies are just easy targets, because like you said, everybody has to have it. direct your anger in the right direction and then you may see results.



Name:   UncleSam - Email Member
Subject:   I wonder.
Date:   3/20/2008 6:22:25 PM

I wonder how the Angry White Man, who "believes the Constitution is to be interpreted literally" and "the great majority of (them) voted for George Bush" feel about that same George Bush calling that same Constitution "just a goddamned piece of paper."

But that's a question that rarely gets asked, and never gets a straight answer.



URL: How W really feels.





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