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PikeSki
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10/24/2008 10:29:18 AM
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Can anyone explain the following questions?
1. Why has every presidential/VP nominee now released their full medical records to the public, except for Barack Obama? His doctors released only a 1 page statement saying that "he is in good health". This is scary. what is he hiding? Does he have serious addictions? Does he have a Psychological history? Does he have a history of anger or lying? He is obviously hiding something. I believe we have a right to know someone's medical state and psychological state when running for presidential office.
2. Why has Baracks Obamas Harvard transcript mysteriously disappeared? No one can seem to locate it?
3. Why has Barack Obama's Thesis mysteriously disappeared? Again, no one can seem to locate it. Yet - it's published. Does anyone know what’s was his thesis was on?
4. Why are they now saying that Barrack's Birth Certificate can not be located in the archives or in state records?
I'm not trying to bash Mr. Obama but when you start looking at all of this stuff it just makes me not trust him all the more. Why would he be hiding ALL of this stuff? If he is who he says he is there should be nothing to hide. Yet - He is hiding everything?
The only reason you hide something is because you don't want anyone else to know what’s in it, right?
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10/24/2008 11:41:36 AM
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Maybe this thread want catch fire. Should be interesting though! I'm looking foreward reading.
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10/24/2008 12:00:00 PM
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It took me five seconds to find this; I would bet that anyone who would spend just a few seconds to discover the truth could dispel all of your rumors. But I guess it's much more fun to print the lies than to learn the facts, isn't it?
URL: Birth certificate
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PikeSki
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10/24/2008 12:34:52 PM
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Mr. Myth,
Thank you for your quick research on this.
However, The document that you produced which has been flying around the internet for quite some time (from my understanding) is merely a posted a copy of a brand new document, this is not an Original birth certificate. There are several mandatory "fields" that are missing on this document including location of birth (i.e.-hospital name) and also the registrar's stamp (which is not present on this document) which invalidates it.
For me this isn't about republican / democrat or black / white, male or female. This is about truthfulness and openness to the American public about someone who wants to become president.
What information / comments do you have about the other items posted that are missing / disappeared?
Why are these common documents not available to the public? Again, sounds like he is hiding something pretty big to me,
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10/24/2008 12:50:37 PM
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Mr Myth,
Just to add to my last comment, in my five seconds or reasearch on this document you provided I have found numerous governmental experts that have also analysed this same document and found it to clearly an "invalid" birth certificate. Here is 1 of the links I found that discussed this document in detail.
A man has already stepped forward and admitted to "creating" this document. Here is an excerpt from just 1 of the stories that I found on this:
"the blog site that published the supposedly "authentic Barack Hussein Obama birth certificate" and his own birth certificate manipulations in the same June 12 post, Jay McKinnon, aka opendna, says he manipulated the Obama birth certificate to create a blank Hawaii birth certificate as a "template," supposedly for a John McCain birth certificate. But he says it was not an attempt at deception but a "lame joke" that he now regrets. "
Again, the original question . . . where is his "valid" birth certifcate?
1. Why has every presidential/VP nominee now released their full medical records to the public, except for Barack Obama? His doctors released only a 1 page statement saying that "he is in good health". This is scary. what is he hiding? Does he have serious addictions? Does he have a Psychological history? Does he have a history of anger or lying? He is obviously hiding something. I believe we have a right to know someone's medical state and psychological state when running for presidential office.
2. Why has Baracks Obamas Harvard transcript mysteriously disappeared? No one can seem to locate it?
3. Why has Barack Obama's Thesis mysteriously disappeared? Again, no one can seem to locate it. Yet - it's published. Does anyone know what’s was his thesis was on?
4. Why are they now saying that Barrack's Birth Certificate can not be located in the archives or in state records?
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10/24/2008 1:13:14 PM
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Valid questions all Pike. Just the fact that he smokes is enough stop me from voting for him. Supposedly he has 'tried' several times to quit, but can't. I QUIT. I know MANY other who have. If you aren't strong enough to stop a nasty, self-destructive habit like smoking, how can you be strong enough to lead this great country?
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10/24/2008 1:17:30 PM
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What say you, Myth? You busy googling?
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DJ
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10/24/2008 1:30:51 PM
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Myth, read the post again it says "4. Why are they now saying that Barrack's Birth Certificate can not be located in the archives or in state records?"
This means they have gone to the state and looked for this record and cannot locate it. Not that he has not produced a document, and as everyone says it is not a valid document.
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Right off Obamination website
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10/24/2008 1:48:15 PM
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Amazing. I agree with the other comments, there is supposed to be a certification seal and lots of information that is normally on a birth certificate is missing. This seems very fishy to me, especially since it would take me 5 seconds at home to produce my birth certificate.
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Right off Obamination website
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10/24/2008 2:08:47 PM
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There is also a law suite against Obama to have him produce this information and he has yet to comply!.
URL: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933
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DJ
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10/24/2008 2:45:49 PM
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see the link
URL: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933
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10/24/2008 3:01:18 PM
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DJ. Wow this is a very telling article. He were have a prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney suing Barck and the Democratic National Committee for proof of citizenship.
Is this guy even qualified to run for president? If an olympic athlete does not meet the age or other qualifications for being in the olympics, they are disqualified. Someone please explain to me how this guy has gotten this far and will not produce a valid US Birth Certificate?
From the Article:
As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.
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10/24/2008 3:57:53 PM
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There is alos a really good article on Youtube about Berg that gives more info. Check it out, and spread it around!!
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10/24/2008 4:15:52 PM
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You can also search for it under October Surprise on Youtube.
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10/24/2008 4:42:26 PM
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I guess what I'm trying to figure out as to why you would be so focused on these itmes when they have absolutely no bearing on what he will do as President.
What did John McCain write his Master's Thesis on? Have you read it?
How do we know his cancer will not come back? How do we know if anyone's cancer will come back??? What about his psychological issues -- his temper --does that come from his time as POW? Did his father (who was an Admiral) put pressue on him? Is that why he always seems so angry when anyone questions him? How do we know he won't start a major war if he perceives someone offends him? What was his GPA at Annapolis? Did his father pull strings to get him in there??
Does he take medication for pain, depression, sleep disorders?
How do we know that John McCain's birth certificate is authentic?? I mean, he was born in Panama, and could have easily been forged. Maybe his father is not really his father... How would we know?
Both of these gentlemen hold very high security clearances -- why aren't their background investigations released? What is the government hiding.
John McCain started dating his current wealthy wife while he was married to his last wife, who was diaabled -- what's the story behind that???
What about his role in the Keating 5 -- how do we know what "really" happened?
For that matter, what was the subject of your thesis?? What was your GPA in college? How do we know you won't be sick next year? What medications do you take regularly? Would you mind showing us your birth certificate?
The bottom line is that this kind of idle speculation about either candidate is pointless. You will never know everything about anyone. What difference does it make?
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10/24/2008 5:01:02 PM
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Mr Talullahhound
The topic of McCain's thesis is whether the military's Code of Conduct needed to be revised in light of the experiences of POWs in Vietnam. I have not read it completely but I have read some of it.
As to your other questions we know McCain’s medical condition and his psychological condition from his medical records that he voluntarily released to the public. He had nothing to hide. Why is Obama hiding his? Why will he not release his official Birth Certificate? Biden produced his immediately. If he doesn't prove he meets these 3 rules . . . he CANNOT run for president of the United States. Rules are Rules and there are only 3 very simple ones.
Don't you find it a bit odd that this man will not produce a simple birth certificate to show that he is eligible to run for President?
To become president of the united states there 3 very simple rules that you must meet. If you don't meet them, you cannot run become president:
First, you have to be a natural born citizen or be born in the United States. (not a naturalized citizen)
Second, you have to have lived in the United States for at least 14 years.
Third, you have to be at least 35 years old.
All I am asking is that he proves he meets these three rules and it will all be put to rest. However, he refuses to produce this document. I do not believe that he can show his Birth Certificate because it will eliminate him from being eligible for becoming president and therefore is hiding it.
If McCain didn't produce his Birth Certificate I would expect the RNC to pull him from the running. (and the press would be all over him every day demanding this).
Anything else you would like to ask?
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10/24/2008 5:01:24 PM
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<beating another dead horse> but geez - Obama has so little in his history that one has to question everything. Get real - he's a mirage, an actor and a prop for the Kennedy's and their bunch. They saw a guy that was a good speaker (think Jim Jones here, he was a great orator also), was attractive to the young, the stars, the easily impressionable, and they annointed him to run for President. The fact that so many are drinking the Kool-Aid is just amazing to me. I ain't no real genius, but I know a fake when I see one.
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10/24/2008 5:03:38 PM
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you do not think it is important that he is a US citizen since it is required in our constitution? What about his medical records since others have produced them ... maybe he does have a drug problem. That is not important to you if he does? What about being treated for a mental illness ... still not important?
The other things if taken individually I would also say who cares .... but collectively something is wrong here. Add this to all his associations that get dismissed and talked away, along with his socialist views and I say this is a serious serious problem and very scary if he becomes president.
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10/24/2008 5:09:39 PM
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The medical history could also be hiding where he was vaccinated or not which would lead to other questions related to his citizenship.
I smell a skunk ... these are basis simple thing that everyone that has run for president has produced. Why not him ... if there is nothing to hide, why fight it and not produce ... just clear the air and show the american people you are honest and have nothing to hide.
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Talullahhound
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10/24/2008 5:16:33 PM
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And I would submit to you that candidates for President of the United States are thoroughly vetted and that OB has proved his citizenship to those that do the vetting.
This is a red herring that people are trying to throw on the table in an attempt to create doubt. and this law suit by the Philadelphia lawyer will be dismissed after the election.
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It's "Mrs. Talullahound".
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AUCATZ
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10/24/2008 5:18:25 PM
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It will be dismissed if BO wins because he can effectively bury it. If he loses, I imagine more will come of it. Too bad this isn't a Great Right-Wing Conspiracy, huh? This one came from Democrats. I have to say how funny this is.
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Talullahhound
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10/24/2008 5:23:44 PM
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And all I'm saying is that you don't know if John McCain has an addiction to pain medication or takes anti-depressants or sleep medications. Maybe he has a bad back. Or maybe he suffers from PTSD -which was not diagnosed much in Viet Nam era vets.
Would you be upset to know that either of them eats a high fat diet, has high cholesterol and is at high risk for heart attack or stroke? What about if they suffer from pre-diabetes. And I don't know if JM has a history of Alzheimers in his family either (maybe on his father's side?)
They didn't tell us that President Reagan suffered from debilitating damages as a result of being shot and didn't really run the country for part of his term either, did they? That came out much later.
This is a red herring. It doesn't mean a thing.
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10/24/2008 5:29:45 PM
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You either care about these things, or you don't. What appears insignificant to you isn't to those of us who (1) don't trust Obama, and (2) aren't swayed (convinced, fooled, whatever) by his great oratory. Everything about the man is suspicious to me.
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10/24/2008 5:38:10 PM
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IF irt is so thouroughly vetted as you keep saying, AND ther is nothing to hide, why not release the records.
And BTW- I am sure that your low level status at the DoD, REALLY made you privy to how candidates are vetted and by who.
I am adding delusions of grandure to your list of shortcomings.
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Swimmer27
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10/24/2008 5:42:41 PM
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Funny thing is, I have NEVER heard tha Reagan 'didn't run things for a while' till you I read your post. And I don't beleive it for a MINUTE. You lefties will do and say ANYTHING to try to destroy the Great Ronaldus Reagunus. And I am a news and Reagan junkie. You just make this cr@p up and sling it against the wall.
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I am sure it was an honest mistake and no harm intended .... after all looks are sometimes deceiving.
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10/24/2008 7:28:52 PM
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We do know because he released unconditionally his medical records and allowed his doctors to speak freely. But yes I would care if he was addicted and it would impact my decision. The guy already admitted to using cocaine .... an illeagel drug. Who know what else he used and did not admit or may be hooked on. Maybe he did a little crack when he was an organizer. Maybe he shot cocaine and not just snorted up his big nose.
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10/24/2008 7:43:46 PM
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W_W Not much different from snorting George. Why is it such a big deal with you?? I am sure it wasn't that important to you in 2000 to prevent you from supporting George.
During his 2000 presidential campaign there were persistent questions about a history of cocaine use. Eventually Bush denied using cocaine since 1992, then quickly extended the cocaine-free period back to 1974 (age 28). NBC reporter David Bloom then noted "that current White House appointees must disclose any drug use since their 18th birthday" . Bush, however, refused to make a disclosure, instead admitting he'd made mistakes in the past, and if voters didn't like that "they can go find somebody else to vote for. That's the wonderful thing about democracy" .
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Medical Report
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10/24/2008 8:00:15 PM
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Obama released this report. I think that watching each candidate over the past few months and during the debate is quite indicative of their mental state. Maybe there should be a pre employment physical for the job. Why is the RNC holding back Palin's medical record?
DAVID L. SCHEINER, M.D.
Hyde Park Associates in Medicine, Ltd.
1515 East 52nd Place, Chicago, IL 60615
To Whom It May Concern:
I am David L. Scheiner, a board certified general internist licensed to practice in the State of Illinois. I am on staff at the University of Chicago Hospitals and Rush University Medical Center. I have been Senator Barack Obama’s primary care physician since March 23, 1987. The following is a summary of his medical records for the past 21 years.
During that period of time, Senator Obama has been in excellent health. He has been seen regularly for medical checkups and various minor problems such as upper respiratory infections, skin rashes and minor injuries.
His family history is pertinent for his mother’s death from ovarian cancer and grandfather who died of prostate cancer. His own history included intermittent cigarette smoking. He has quit this practice on several occasions and is currently using Nicorette gum with success.
Senator Obama’s last medical checkup was on January 15, 2007; he had no complaints. He exercised regularly often jogging three miles. His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids. A complete review of systems was unremarkable. On physical examination, his blood pressure was 90/60 and pulse 60/minute. His build was lean and muscular with no excess body fat. His physical examination was completely normal.
Laboratory studies included triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.
In short, his examination showed him to be in excellent health. Senator Barack Obama is in overall good physical and mental health needed to maintain the resiliency required in the Office of President.
Sincerely,
David L. Scheiner, M.D.
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Talullahhound
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10/24/2008 9:16:34 PM
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But GF, how do we know that he's not lying... LOL.
And I don't care about Sara Palin's medical report. I think if all of them can keep up the campaign pace then they are probably doing okay medically.
I don't really care if Bill Clinton tried weed, and I don't care if BO snorted coke in his youth. I don't think these things have any reflection on who they are today. And that's what I care about.
It used to concern me that John McCain was in his 70's, but when I consider that 50 is the new 30, well, his only in his middle age.
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10/24/2008 10:40:27 PM
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I would wager it will die regardless. I don't believe in "vast" conspiracies of any kind. I guess knocking Obama out of the race on some sort of "technicality" is the only way you figure McCain can win. I can understand your desperation -- given the polling data.
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10/24/2008 11:30:21 PM
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No one is getting the big picture....you MUST meet all requirements in order TO run for president......Why hasn't this been resolved before now?? It's kinda like the roller coaster at six flags.....If you're not this tall you don't ride!
Either put up or the dem's can sit this one out
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AUCATZ
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10/25/2008 8:08:51 AM
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I'm not 'desperate'. I submitted my absentee vote a couple of weeks ago. That is all I can do. We will survive either President. The country won't be allowed to go too liberal, nor too far to the right because of the makeup of the country. I fear liberal judges on the Supreme Court. I fear a President who is all talk and no experience if we have a terrorist attack, or a world crisis.
Most of all I fear a Democratic President with a Democratic Congress that takes away the balance of ideas.
However, We Will Survive.
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10/25/2008 8:46:31 AM
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This is the report of a single medical exam and not even close to releasing his medical records. I just had a physical exam last week for my FAA medical. I could easily get the doctor to write a similar letter that would not touch on my medical history in the least.
THE FACT IS NOT RELEASING MEDICAL RECORDS AND PUTTING OUT A BOGUS BIRTH CERTIFICATES ONLY RAISES THE CONCERN OF PEOPLE THAT HE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE! I for one think this is much ado about nothing but it is up to the Obamination campaign to release all the records and put this to rest.
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WRONG ONCE AGAIN!!
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10/25/2008 8:52:12 AM
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See below about whether elected officials are investigated. Makes sense to me as it would expose a candidate running against an incumbant to politically motivated federal investigations.
However, this is inaccurate according to Special Agent-in-Charge: C. Frank Figliuzzi of the Cleveland FBI. Background checks are not performed on those elected, once elected they work for Congress and are handed a secret clearance. See below:
This is a conversation between the Special Agent-in-Charge: C. Frank Figliuzzi of the Cleveland FBI and Mike Trivisonno on the Mike Trivisonno Show, WTAM 1100, 7/02/08, Hr. 2.
Caller - Do they perform background checks on candidates and fellows who are in Congress and the Senate and perhaps potential presidential candidates?.
FBI - The short answer is no, no we don’t, but they’re given top secret clearances because they’re members of Congress, or Senators, or even higher ranking officials.
Host - Time out. There are no background checks from the FBI on the people that lead the country, the United States of America?.
FBI - Let me emphasize, elected officials. This is a democracy, the people have elected an official to represent them in Washington, and we do not routinely run background checks on those people.
Host - Even people running for president of the United States of America?.
FBI - That’s correct.
Host - That’s a little weird
FBI - Well, its part of democracy, its part of what the American people want, they want to be able to vote for somebody to represent them in Washington and they don’t want us to get in the way of that and we have no predilection to get in the way of that.
Host - Yeah, but what if they’re voting for a bad person and they don’t know that person is bad, do you follow me?. I’m saying, if the guy’s got a background and maybe he’s involved with some people that he shouldn’t be involved with, shouldn’t we know that as voters?.
FBI - Well, I think you’d agree that the American political process is about as rigorous as you’ll ever see and if there’s dirt back there, probably the opponent is gonna get it out probably before anyone else will.
Host - Now I know why you’re the head of the FBI, they’re good, aren’t they?.”
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MartiniMan
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Two requirements
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10/25/2008 9:18:25 AM
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Section 1 of Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution states that a President must:
1. be a natural born citizen of the united States
2. be at least 35 years old
3. have lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years
In addition, the 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that a President may not serve more than 2 terms of 4 years each, even if they have only served as President for 2 or more years of one of those terms.
Seems like BO could prove this by releasing a real birth certificate, if one actually exists. The bogus one on their website only raises the issue to one of alarm. Where was he really born?
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Talullahhound
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WRONG ONCE AGAIN!!
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10/25/2008 10:17:04 AM
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The FBI is not in charge of granting security clearances -- the CIA is. So this guys credibility is loose with me. They actually have much higher clearances than just top secret, and that requires a special investigation. They are likely given an interim top secret until the investigation is completed. But background investiagations are done -- don't you remember there was a case this year in which they fired some contractor for going into Hillary and Obama security file without a "need to know".
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Talullahhound
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10/25/2008 10:21:27 AM
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Well, you had "W" and we had a terrorist incident and we survived. We can debate all day about whether his response was the right one, but the country keeps moving forward.
I continue to wonder which of John McCain's foreign policy credentials provide you so much peace of mind?
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MartiniMan
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Tell me you're joking
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10/25/2008 10:45:29 AM
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You have got to be kidding me right? Please tell me you don't think the Central Intelligence Agency is responsible for domestic security clearances. Tallullah, can I suggest that before you type things you do just a bit of independent research. The CIA is responsible for foreign intielligence and is not allowed to "spy" domestically. The FBI is in fact responsible for domestic security clearance investigations. If you don't beleive me I can put you in touch with a friend of mine, Rick Walker of Peachtree City who works for the FBI and does security clearance investigations.
I can understand maybe not knowing this but I wish before you typed something you would at least take a moment to determine if you were right. It sort of insults my intelligence.
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old blue chair
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Two requirements
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10/25/2008 10:48:45 AM
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that MUST word is what keeps throwing a wrench in things.............How did it get this far? how did he even get his name in the hat without this critical information
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MrHodja
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Well, It Depends
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10/25/2008 11:54:39 AM
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At least for the Department of Defense and Defense Contractors, the Office of Personnel Management performs the investigations - even up to the "special" investigations Hound refers to. The actual granting of the clearance is done by the Department (in my case currently Defense, but in the past Treasury as well.
I started to enter some more information, but frankly the general public truly may not need to know those details, and I wouldn't want my own clearance status jeopardized because of some boneheaded revelation on a lake forum. Suffice it to say that OPM investigates (and FBI may as well - don't know) and the Department grants the clearance after the investigation has been adjudicated within that Department.
And, in the "for what it is worth" column, one of the questions you have to answer is "Have you EVER used illegal drugs." If the answer is "yes" it doesn't automatically disqualify you from getting a clearance, but the investigator will certainly explore that answer VERY deeply.
Nasreddin Hodja
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MrHodja
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Slight Clarification
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10/25/2008 11:59:22 AM
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While it is OPM that has the overall investigative authority, it is actually personnel from one of their subordinate units, DSS - the Defense Security Service, who do the legwork and perform the investigation.
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Tell me you're joking
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10/25/2008 12:33:49 PM
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The Intelligence organizations areresponsible for security cleanances. DIA does them for DOD.
FBI investigates security clearance violations as a crimiinal act.
I've been involved in security clearance violations a time or two. or three in my former business. Customs also gets inolved.
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Well, It Depends
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10/25/2008 12:36:37 PM
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Suffice to say the Intelligence Organizations are the ones that do the background investigations. Most of the actual investigations are done by contractors these days.
You are right, the discussion problably doesn't need to go further than that for the purposes of this forum.
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10/25/2008 12:38:33 PM
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And OPM is involved only if it is a new hire and the poisition requires a clearance. After that it's renewed within security channels who have accesses to the data bases.
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Awwright!
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10/25/2008 1:22:18 PM
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See, we can agree on something...:>)
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The point Is lost
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10/25/2008 4:48:57 PM
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There is no security vetting of a candidate for office including the President. You tried to dismiss concerns about whether BO is a natural born citizen based on his being vetted by the government and that is clearly incorrect. That is why it is so important that this question be answered. It is entirely conceivable that he is not eligible to be President. What a mess that would be and it would clearly be a failure of the Democrat party in allowing the nomination of a non citizen. I will say that I hope this is not the case. It must be answered but it will be a mess if it proves to be true.
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AUCATZ
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Something doesn't smell right
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10/26/2008 2:22:18 AM
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W did the best he could under the circumstances. As for my feelings about McCain vs. Obama, I feel that some history and reference is better than none at all. I have seen Nothing At All from BO that makes me feel he will be a good President except that he can give a good speech. So could Hitler, Karl Marx, and Jim Jones.
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