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Name:   PikeSki - Email Member
Subject:   NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED
Date:   10/27/2008 10:04:58 AM

I ask that you do NOT watch the video in the attached URL if you are faint of heart. This is a very graphic video that shows in detail what Barack Hssein Obama believes in morally and can back this up without any guilt in his heart!

How can you look at this video and not see the morals of this man so many of you are backing up? We cannot allow a man of this moral standing to take office?

If you are going to argue that this isn't what Obama stands for then I invite you to watch Debate #3 where each candidate is asked point blank on their position on this very topic. Obama clearly states that he is all for this. McCain clearly states that he is totally against this.

Click on this liink and then select the "English Video"

http://www.durarealidad.com/

URL: http://www.durarealidad.com/

Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Shame on you
Date:   10/27/2008 1:43:00 PM

for posting the truth and angering the blinded Obama supporters. i am sure that is why you were flamed. How dare you. :)

Thanks for sharing.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   I knew a flame was coming
Date:   10/27/2008 2:26:48 PM

I wonder if the person who flamed this post has the guts to identify themselves and explain why this post deserved it. The video is neither inflammatory nor false in any shape, fashion or form. It simply brings home the true horror of abortion. If you are so pro-abortion then why do you worry about people understanding the true significance of such a choice. I suspect if every American were forced to learn the truth about the actual procedure and what the alleged "fetus" looks like (a baby!!) that the support for a woman's right to choose would collapse. The goal is to keep this knowledge from the public. By the way, for those who do not know the term fetus means little one. How ironic.

This is a threshold issue for me and for good reason.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   I knew a flame was coming
Date:   10/27/2008 2:47:14 PM

and what gets me is these same people are against the death penalty for criminals for crimes against society that cut life short and ruin families. They will fight for animal rights, anti hunting, etc .... but think nothing of killing an innocent child that never had a chance at life because someone else made a "choice" not to give them that chance.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   I knew a flame was coming
Date:   10/27/2008 3:19:37 PM

Not only that, but they claim that a person who is against abortion but for the death penalty is a hypocrite. What they do not understand is the fundamental difference between an innocent baby in the womb and a person guilty of a heinous crime.

As an example, follow this exchange several years ago between Alan Keyes and a college student when she pointed out this apparent dichotomy. He provided this analogy. Your father commits the crime of having killed a police officer in cold blood. He is arrested, tried and convicted by a jury of peers and the evidence is overwhelming and he admits to the crime. At the sentencing hearing the judge declares that the punishment for the crime is the execution of the young woman (his daughter) by lethal injection and the father is free to go. Keyes asked her how she felt about that sentence? Her response was that it was ridiculous as she wasn't guilty of any crime, it was her father that killed the police office so why should she be executed by lethal injection for her father's crime.

He then asked her why it was any different for a baby in the womb? She stood there for a couple of minutes thinking about it and turned and walked away. It is even more stark when you consider that the actual crime that these babies are being executed for is simply being an unwanted pregnancy. And its even worse when you consider the disproportionate number of black and hispanic babies that are killed each year. There is a reason Planned Parenthood prefers being located in lower income, minority areas. Margaret Sanger would be so pleased that they are so effective in culling blacks and hispanics from the herd which was her objective in getting abortion legalized in the first place.




Name:   lamont - Email Member
Subject:   Uhhh....
Date:   10/27/2008 3:40:48 PM

Gone fishin, where you is?



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED
Date:   10/27/2008 4:31:42 PM

My feeling is that if you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one.
Obama has stated that he doesn't believe in abortion, but supports the Supreme Court determination of a mother's right to choose.



Name:   PikeSki - Email Member
Subject:   Not So Sir
Date:   10/27/2008 4:54:12 PM

Mr. T.

Please see the following website on Obama's Abortion Views History and voting record:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Barack_Obama_Abortion.htm

This is a complete guide on his stance on abortion. Mr. Obama clearly and fully supports abortion in every form. No argument can be made about that. If you read through this and still believe he is not for abortion come on back to discuss your throughts. I don't think anyone can read this and think that he is against abortion.

URL: http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Barack_Obama_Abortion.htm

Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED
Date:   10/27/2008 4:55:37 PM

My feeling is if you don't believe in murder don't kill someone. But if you do believe in murder then its OK. So if someone comes along and murders someone you love I suppose that's OK. We need to get rid of those Judeo-Christian laws prohibiting murder. Who are we to tell someone they can't murder another person? I mean animals kill other animals all the time. And we are just another species after all, right? What say you?



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Its a woman
Date:   10/27/2008 4:58:02 PM

Who is once again wrong. She forgets his comment that he doesn't want his daughter to be punished with a baby if she makes a mistake. Imagine that, she is going to vote for a man who considers a baby punishment, who is all for letting a baby that survives a botched abortion be thrown out with the trash.



Name:   NautiMinded - Email Member
Subject:   NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED
Date:   10/27/2008 4:59:12 PM

If it's not a baby, then you aren't pregnant.



Name:   Swimmer27 - Email Member
Subject:   Great point Nauti
Date:   10/27/2008 5:07:58 PM

And if you aint pregnant you have NO RIGHT to an abortion!!



Name:   SPEARFISHER - Email Member
Subject:   NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED
Date:   10/27/2008 5:09:55 PM

If you don't believe in it then how can you support it?? That statement shows alot of ignorance. It might be different if someone on the street said this, but this evil person is probably going to be our next POTUS. He needs to make a stand and fight for his side, but he is to two-faced to do that because he will say ANYTHING to get elected.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED
Date:   10/27/2008 5:27:58 PM

Ski presents some pretty compelling evidence otherwise.

Your comment?



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Not So Sir
Date:   10/27/2008 9:16:34 PM

I based my opinion on what I understood him to say in the last debate. I know he supports a woman's right to chose. I have nothing further to say about this issue. In my mind, it's not a political issue.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Roe v Wade Made It Political
Date:   10/27/2008 9:57:46 PM

When the Supreme Court fabricated a right to choose out of whole cloth they made abortion a political issue! The President nominates justices to the Supreme Court with the advice and consent of the Senate. Therefore we have to be deeply concerned about the makeup of the courts. If liberals ceased using the courts to enact radical policies that are not acceptable to the majority of Americans then maybe the issue of abortion would not be front and center in the political world. Until then it will be in the minds of tens of millions of Americans that value human life from conception to natural death.

You may have nothing more to say because your views and those of Obamination are an abomination. As for me I will continue to speak out against any politician that does not respect human life.



Name:   SPEARFISHER - Email Member
Subject:   You Are Freakin Nuts
Date:   10/28/2008 12:29:39 PM

"In my mind, it's not a political issue."

It is one of the biggest political issues of our generation, the generation before us, and more than likely many to come. Let me guess you don't think war, taxes, or health care are political either.

BTW in case you didn't know here's a news flash for ya. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL SAY ANYTHING AT A DEBATE OR ANYWHERE ELSE TO GET ELECTED!!!!

It's his prior voting record, the people he chooses to associate with, and what he is gonna do with a democrat controlled congress that scares the he!! out of me.



Name:   PikeSki - Email Member
Subject:   You Are Freakin Nuts
Date:   10/28/2008 12:54:46 PM

Mr Spear.

Keep in mind that throughout this campaign anytime something is proven fact the people that are Obama supporters simply blow it off as propaganda and PR. They refuse to look at the real issues with who this man really is, his character, his ethics, his lies, his hiding over 14 known personal documents, his inexperience, his radical ideas, his now self admittedly Marxist/Socialist views, his redistribution of wealth, on and on and on.

The thing that is astonishing to me is that with everything that has been shown about Barrack Hussein Obama and people still look at him as if he is going to be the greatest president/king that ever walked this planet.

I don't know why everyone today is so afraid to change candidates. I would change in 1 minute if roles were reversed and all of this stuff was about McCain and not Obama. Why are people so afriad to look at 2 men and what each stands for and make a logical decision of who the better man is for the job. To admit to yourself that 1 candidate is better than another and change your mind. This is something to be proud of! There is no shame in it what so ever. If you go with a candidate only because everyone else is . . . this is something I would be embarrased about.



Name:   SPEARFISHER - Email Member
Subject:   Wierd
Date:   10/28/2008 4:14:20 PM

We still have not heard from GF on this thread!!







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