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Name:   SeaRayMan - Email Member
Subject:   Attn: Business Owners
Date:   10/30/2008 12:13:29 PM

Sounds fair to me!


Dear Fellow Business Owners

As a Business owner who employs 30 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barack Obama, wll be our next President, and that my Taxes and Fees, will go up in a BIG way.

To compensate for these increases, I figure, that the Customer, will have to see an increase in my fees to them of about, 8%. I will also have to lay off 6 of my employees. This really bothered me as I believe we are family here and didn't know how to choose who will have to go. So, this is what I did.

I strolled thru the parking lot and found, 8 Obama bumper stickers on my employees cars.

I have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off.

I can't think of another fair way to approach this problem. If you have a better idea, let me know.
I am sending this letter to all Business owners that I know.

Sincerely
Ward
JOOA Corp





Name:   old blue chair - Email Member
Subject:   Attn: Business Owners
Date:   10/30/2008 12:17:48 PM

Very fair



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Here is the answer
Date:   10/30/2008 12:20:21 PM

If every business vowed to cut as many jobs as necessary to offset the tax increase BO puts on business, maybe he would see how off the wall his plan is the tax businesses more and those ultra rich people that make $200m a year and $250m for two income families. Oh yes, that is way too much and they need to "share the wealth". Especially the hard earned wealth that was achieved through taking risks, living day to day, putting sweat equity in to their businesses.

Small business really want to spread that wealth to people that would not take a risk, were too lazy to work hard and make something of themselves. Decided partying and having fun rather than working hard on their education or learning a skill was better because their would be a savior like BO that takes away from those that earned it to give it to those that have not.




Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   I love your approach
Date:   10/30/2008 12:33:02 PM

I think they need to know this is how "spreading the wealth" works as they leave unemployed.

If he is elected. there will be a revolt and I see more and more businesses doing things like this.

Just like the unions needed to learn. When i lived in Pittsburgh in the late 70's and early 80's. The steel makers were on there butts. Steel prices were low, they were still recovering from the Jimmy Carter destruction of the economy. I remember US Steel asking the United Steel Workers Union for concessions and if they got them then US Steel would keep plants open and committed to investments in the plants. Otherwise it was cheaper for them to build new mini steel plants (like Nucor) and they are typically started as non union and try to keep it that way.

The union not only said no, but "hell no". So one by one US Steel started closing plants. The union started to strike at plants that were running ... so as soon as they announced a strike, US Steel would announce they are closing the plant. Then they had nothing to strike about.

It worked great. The union eventually saw the light and started to work together with US Steel and now US Steel is much stronger and has grown over the years because they could be competitive. Other steel makers were not so lucky, like Bethlehem Steel.

BO wantes to protect the unions and eliminate secret ballots. That will just make US manufactures less comptetive world wide and lead to more job losses and plant closings.

The liberals just don't get this. Business is not the enemy. They need to be competitive to survive and compete around the world. Otherwise businesses move out of this country and build plants were they can be competitive. It is very simple.



Name:   PikeSki - Email Member
Subject:   Attn: Business Owners
Date:   10/30/2008 12:41:07 PM

Sorry to hear you are being forced to take these steps already. But good planning will help I think. I Still like the descrition of redistribution of wealth posted previous by Swimmer27.

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign the read "Vote
Obama, I need the money." I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I
laughed--just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that
I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept He stood there in
disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to
someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server
angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server
inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was
grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized
the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter
was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the
actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept
than in practical application.
OR IS IT.........REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE'S WEALTH IS A GREAT
IDEA..............or just a fool's political game !!




Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   The Right and Bumper Sticker
Date:   10/30/2008 5:14:08 PM

Sounds real American!!! I wonder if that brings smiles to Stalin and Hitler. Go check the parking lot for Obama stickers we can fire them. The First Amendment only applies to the Right. Sounds so funny if it weren't so pathetic.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Vote Obama and pay the price
Date:   10/30/2008 6:34:22 PM

If you want to vote Obama and we have the logical consequences then what is the problem with making those that brought it about actually pay the price? As for Stalin and Hitler, I think firing Obama workers doesn't quite rise to the level of 20 million dying in the gulags and the extermination of millions of Jews for being Jewish. I know moral equivalency is a big thing with liberals but even this one stretches credulity.

It's funny, its OK to target the rich so they take a big hit with Obamination's wealth redistribution but its Stalinesque or Hitleresque for Obama supporters to actually take a hit for their support of the guy. A bit of hypocrisy, no?



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Another thought
Date:   10/30/2008 6:41:18 PM

As to the First Amendment, no one is saying they can't put whatever they want on their bumpers. They can say whatever they want. However, the First Amendment is silent about people paying the price for their speech. This is just like Hollywood liberals, they want to be able to say anything but God forbid we decide not to see their movies. THAT IS VIOLATING THEIR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS!! You see, they also have the right to keep their mouths shut and not alienate a portion of the audience. If they choose to speak out then I likewise have the right to not watch their product.

My current no watch list: Babs, Damon, Baldwin, Robbins, Penn, Springsteen, Dixies, cLooney, Sarandon, Lind, Moore, Pitt.......



Name:   JohnGalt - Email Member
Subject:   The Right and Bumper Sticker
Date:   10/30/2008 7:58:21 PM

How were their first amendment rights violated..?



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   The Right and Bumper Sticker
Date:   10/31/2008 12:34:13 AM

"My current no watch list: Babs, Damon, Baldwin, Robbins, Penn, Springsteen, Dixies, cLooney, Sarandon, Lind, Moore, Pitt......."

Gee, you are missing so much. Especially the Boss aka Springsteen.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   The Right and Bumper Sticker
Date:   10/31/2008 1:07:55 AM

Movements always start small and appear to be rather innocuous at first. Making a list of who had an Obama sticker on their car is simply that first step. If McCain wins, lets just make a cryptic note in the personal file who supported Obama. Let's add who eats chitlins and lives in a project. By the way, check out your neighborhood and list all homes with Obama signs. Enter the addresses into our data base. We will only hire those who think like us. It is a dangerous precedent.

Just as dangerous as Obama supporters making a list of homes with McCain/Palin signs and showing up after the election for some indoctrination into the virtues of Socialism. Hmmm, while we are at it let's redistribute all cars with Mccain/Palin bumper stickers. Let's redistribute the jewelry and a few plasma TVs from any home that has a McCain/Palin lawn sign. No one steals my TV, me and my buddies will set up a vigilante group to protect my rights.............But, it all started so innocently in a parking lot listing who to fire if Obama is elected.

No one anticipated that Hitler would kill people like he did when he first started his movement. Castro was a liberater from Battista,

This great country should be above that mentality. For, little ACORNS grow to be giant Oak trees.



Name:   JohnGalt - Email Member
Subject:   The Right and Bumper Sticker
Date:   10/31/2008 7:25:44 AM

Or is could have started so innocently at an Obama rally in Ohio where a plumber asked a simple question of a candidate, and when the candidate 's true plan was revealed the plumber became the focus of numerous background checks in order to discredit the citizen.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   The Right and Bumper Sticker
Date:   10/31/2008 7:36:49 AM

Back to the original thought....ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL, then why is it not acceptable to choose those who caused the situation - those who chose for the situation to exist, to be be the ones to suffer the situation's consequences?

Or said another way, ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL, why should one who caused the problem stay when one who tried to prevent the problem gets the boot. How is that fair to the one who tried to prevent the problem?

Gee, if one worker on an assembly line is maknig quota and another is sleeping, should the one doing the work get fired when they don't get the product out the door?





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   I do miss the Boss
Date:   10/31/2008 8:13:46 AM

Been to several concerts and they are terrific. I just don't want to pay $300 to hear a multi-millionaire tell me his political views. Just shut up and sing...or act....or whatever. If you want to take advantage of your right to free speech don't whine when people react negatively.



Name:   lamont - Email Member
Subject:   Yeah, Like Babs.....
Date:   10/31/2008 8:29:49 AM

Bitch!ng about Reagan and greed and charging $1,000 a pop for her concerts.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Yeah, Like Babs.....
Date:   10/31/2008 9:36:04 AM

That only scratches the surface of her monumental hypocrisy. At the time she was lecturing us to hang our clothes out to dry she claimed she could never do that because it would damage the value of her Malibu home. Speaking of which, she is also one of the many liberal hypocrites that have tried to prevent ordinary folks from walking on "her" beach in front of her Malibu mansion.



Name:   Swimmer27 - Email Member
Subject:   And even bigger
Date:   10/31/2008 10:45:57 AM

VOTER FRAUDS!!



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Ya gotta be kidding
Date:   10/31/2008 1:07:18 PM

We're not talking about a man that has any political power. This is a guy running a company with 30 employees. Calling him the beginning of a mass movement is rather silly.

I am much more concerned about what Obamination and his supporters are up to as he begins to exert power. To wit, he has booted three newspapers from his campaign plane and surprise, surprise, they all work for papers that endorsed McCain (McCain doesn't have any reporters on his campaign plane to avoid the claim of playing favorites). I am sure it is just a coincidence.

He has allowed ACORN and other voter registration groups to commit massive vote fraud in battleground states.

He has refused to have the state of Hawaii release his birth records, his schools to release his academic records, etc. What does he have to hide?

Ohio state workers accessing personal information about a private citizen that actually had the temerity to question the messiah.

They have blacklisted and cancelled interviews with a TV station in Florida that had the nerve to ask Biden some tough questions.

His supporters are stealing McCain/Palin yard signs all over the country and vandalizing cars with McCain/Palin stickers.

Obamaination and his minions have routinely and systematically tried to brand any criticism of the messiah as latent racism.

He is for the unFariness Doctrine which will muzzle the free speech rights of conservatives and destroy AM radio.

I worry about those and hundreds of other examples that give us an insight into what an Obamination administration would look like.







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