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Swimmer27
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3 feet in Question
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11/16/2008 12:05:20 PM
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From today's Outlook about 3 foot variance
URL: Variance?
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| Name: |
Broke Point
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3 feet in Question
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11/16/2008 9:00:24 PM
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Since Alabama Power has yet to apply for a variance and now that the lake level is already about at 483, I really don't understand the point of applying for a variance in lake level. Kind of like last year, the variance felt good but the reality of it was the lake was below 483 and the variance really did nothing more than to begin filling the lake earlier when the February rains came. It seems the real issue now is to apply for the plug in the Martin dam earlier so that the lake benefits from the early rains in February.
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If they do decide to ask for a variance (and it's granted), it will allow for the lake to come up to 483 before plug date (which they may also ask to adjust). I doubt APC will ask for a variance unless it's very dry between now and Christmas.
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roswellric
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I still don't understand...
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11/17/2008 9:05:28 AM
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The water level last winter was a lot lower than 483 so why did we get these variances after the cow was out of the barn. I though it applied to this year.
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muddauber
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I still don't understand...
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11/17/2008 11:04:34 AM
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I presume APC started the variance proposal before we were below that level. But it also included plugging earlier which made sure we reached full pool.
I presume that would be the same thing this time around.
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Webmaster
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I still don't understand...
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11/17/2008 12:00:04 PM
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When APC requested the variance last year, the National Weather Service was predicting the 2007 drought to continue into the winter and spring of 2008. I think that was the big factor in their decision to request the variance. Fortunately, the forecast was wrong, and we had about average rainfall early this year.
Interesting Note: People here refer to Lake Lanier often, but the lakes on the Savannah River (between Georgia and South Carolina) are hurting pretty bad too. Geographically, they are in the worst part of the U.S. drought monitor because the Appalachian Mountains take most of the moisture from westerly weather systems. Lakes Hartwell and Thurmond are almost at the lowest the dams can go... In other words, they are close to be free-flowing rivers.
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| Name: |
Maverick
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Darn You Webmaster
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11/17/2008 12:46:36 PM
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Just go ahead and tease us with the Photo you have on your posting. - LOL.
Nice feature as long as folks respectfully post pictures which are appropriate for all ages.
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| Name: |
wix
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I still don't understand...
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11/17/2008 6:12:22 PM
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Drove across Hartwell yesterday and it looks like moonscape. 22' down and headed to an estimated 31' down. That's what you get with the Corps of Engineers lakes like Lanier and Hartwell.
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| Name: |
muddauber
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I still don't understand...
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11/17/2008 6:34:29 PM
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I don't know as I'd blame the Corps. They have legal requirements to keep certain flow rates. Hartwell and Thurmond are below a nuclear power lake (Keowee) and that lake cannot be allowed to drop but 4 or 5 feet. So the two dams below it and the one above Keowee take a big hit during the droughts. Just the way it is.
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| Name: |
wix
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I still don't understand...
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11/17/2008 7:03:58 PM
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Problem is the Corps is so backwards and inflexible, that they don't think to slow downstream rates from Hartwell even though there is a drought upstream. They would have you believe that they have "legal" requirements for flow rates, but in most cases those rates can be slowed during a drought. The rates on the Alabama River were cut by 10%, then by another 50%, and, in fact, were stopped altogether on Lake Martin. And would you believe the Corps never accepted the 50% reduction imposed by Alabama Power, even though it saved major problems on out lakes. Don't drink the Corps Koolaid.
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| Name: |
PikeSki
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I still don't understand...
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11/18/2008 1:07:28 PM
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Isn't the Corp another fine example of government run agencies? I still have yet to see 1 government run agency (besides the milatary) that is run effectively or efficiently. Thats why I say we need much bigger government, a lot more agencies, and a huge increase in taxes. This will solve all of our problems.
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| Name: |
8hcap
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I still don't understand...
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11/18/2008 5:10:41 PM
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Amen, Pike. And it will only take a fair tax of about 68% to pay for it all.
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| Name: |
4Golf
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I still don't understand...
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11/18/2008 10:18:24 PM
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...don't forget, only the "super-rich" will see an increase in their taxes.
Redistribution.....that's the ticket.
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