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water_watcher
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Thomas Jefferson a Prophet
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11/24/2008 7:01:36 AM
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Jefferson in some cases could be called a prophet.
When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.
Thomas Jefferson
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Very Interesting Quote
In light of the present financial crisis, it's interesting to read what Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.'
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Talullahhound
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Thomas Jefferson a Prophet
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11/24/2008 9:07:31 AM
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Wonder if he used an strologer....
Really makes one think... Thanks for sharing this.
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water_watcher
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Thomas Jefferson a Prophet
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11/24/2008 10:35:22 AM
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Make you think so ....
You are welcome.
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au67
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Thomas Jefferson a Prophet
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11/24/2008 11:09:35 AM
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He didn't need an astrologer...just common sense.
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water_watcher
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Thomas Jefferson a Prophet
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11/24/2008 11:26:56 AM
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I would agree ... it is sad everyone does not see that.
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Talullahhound
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Thomas Jefferson a Prophet
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11/24/2008 2:31:52 PM
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No need to wonder what Jefferson would have said about derivatives and sub-prime mortgages. Although, I believe that Jefferson went broke at some point. I don't think he asked for a bail out, but I think he got a little help from his friends.
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MartiniMan
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John Adams by McCullough
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11/25/2008 3:36:28 PM
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If you haven't read this book (and forget the HBO special) it is very interesting, particularly as it relates to Jefferson. As for Hound's comment about his financial plight the book makes clear that while he may have believed in limited government he personally spent money like a drunken sailor (with apologies to sailors of all ages). I don't know if he went broker per se but he had significant financial troubles at various times in his life.
Besides that, he was right about his distrust of government although interestingly he was all for the French Revolution which created first chaos, then tyranny under the guise of democracy.
I also love what Reagan has to say about government, politics and world affairs. Check out these quotes.
'Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose.'
'The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'
'Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. Was too strong.'
'I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress.'
'The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination.'
'Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.'
'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.'
'It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first.'
'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.'
'Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed, there are many rewards; if you disgrace yourself, you can always write a book.'
'No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.'
'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation goneunder.'
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Talullahhound
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John Adams by McCullough
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11/25/2008 6:32:40 PM
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Jefferson was an amazing man. If you have never been to Monticello, make it a point to go there -- even his house was innovative for it's time.
I liked Ronald Reagan. He gave the country hope when it sadly needed it badly. A lot of what he said about government and Washington is correct. In Washington, no one talks about money. It is all about influence and power. Who you have access to; what level of clearance you have; even where you hold building passes to. Who takes your calls; even what meetings you are asked to. No one ever asks you where you live, but they always ask where you work -- to gauge where they are in relation to you in power and if you are someone who might be useful to them in the future. A friend of mine told me one time that Washington was the only place where you could be cut and diced and served up, and you might never realize you'd even been cut.
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