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lotowner
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Letter to the President
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7/29/2009 7:30:41 AM
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Lou Pritchett is one of corporate America's true living legends- an acclaimed author, dynamic teacher and one of the world's highest rated speakers. Successful corporate executives everywhere recognize him as the foremost leader in change management. Lou changed the way America does business by creating an audacious concept that came to be known as "partnering." Pritchett rose from soap salesman to Vice-President, Sales and Customer Development for Procter and Gamble and over the course of 36 years, made corporate history.
AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA
Dear President Obama:
You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me. You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.
You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.
You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.
You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.
You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don't understand it at its core.
You scare me because you lack humility and 'class', always blaming others.
You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail.
You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America ' crowd and deliver this message abroad.
You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.
You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.
You scare me because you prefer 'wind mills' to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.
You scare me because you have begun to use 'extortion' tactics against certain banks and corporations.
You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.
You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.
You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both omnipotent and omniscient.
You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.
You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaughs, Hannitys, O'Relllys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.
You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.
Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.
Lou Pritchett
TRUE - CHECK: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/youscareme.asp
This letter was sent to the NY Times but they never acknowledged it. Big surprise. Since it hit the internet, however, it has had over 500,000 hits
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Talullahhound
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Letter to the President
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7/29/2009 8:31:16 AM
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Isn't this about the 30th "open letter" to the President with someone that says "you scare me"? Where do you find this stuff?
Are you on some secret "open letter" distribution?
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MythBuster
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An open letter to Lou Pritchet
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7/29/2009 11:58:22 AM
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An Open Letter to Lou Pritchett
Emblematic of the disturbed right-wing fear mongering that has grown up like ringworm on the American body politic since long before Obama was even elected is a piece entitled An Open Letter to President Obama penned by a Lou Pritchett, who was a vice-president of Proctor & Gamble and the author of a business self-help book.
Mr. Pritchett hoped to have had his work published in The New York Times but surprisingly never received any acknowledgement of his submission. Nevertheless, it has become a popular fixture on right-wing websites and fodder for e-mail forwards by conservatives to their friends.
In this letter, Mr. Pritchett sets out the reasons Obama supposedly "scares" him. His work instead has the converse effect of demonstrating the reasons people like Mr. Pritchett scare me.
Dear Mr. Pritchett:
I would like to take this opportunity to comment on your "open letter" to President Obama.
Dear President Obama:
You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me.
You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.
Who's fault is that? The President's biography and curriculum vitae are public record. You could find out anything you want about Obama by a simple Google search or a trip to your local library.
You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.
FOX News, of all outlets, managed somehow to be aware that Obama paid for his expensive Ivy League education through student loans, which were paid off by the proceeds of his book deals. That you, Mr. Pritchett, were unable to discover this is very interesting.
You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.
Is there an objective definition of what it means to be "culturally" an American? It seems from this that you apparently believe so, and you believe you have the authority to judge others by that standard and determine whether or not they pass muster. That is scary.
You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.
And this is relevant how? You assert that Obama is the first President that has scared you. That implies that Obama's predecessor did not scare you and that you deem George W. Bush a better chief executive than Obama. Bush's record of company management was not exactly stellar. If you prefer a President who proved a repeated failure in running a company to one who has never run a company to ruin, that is scary.
You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don't understand it at its core.
The response to this concern is similar to that above. If Obama scares you because he has never served in the military, were you likewise scared by Bush whose military experience amounted to a brief cushy stint in the Texas Air National Guard without ever seeing combat? How about his powerful Vice-President who could not volunteer for military service because he had "other priorities?"
You scare me because you lack humility and 'class', always blaming others.
This is a pretty weak allegation. It offers no details, no specifics, just vague character aspersions. You'll have to do better than that, Mr. Pritchett.
You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail.
I understand that it is common in conservative media to repeat allegations endlessly until they become memes irretrievably lodged in the public consciousness and thus accepted by many blindly as fact. However, it would be really nice if you happened to be able to name just one "radical extremist" with whom Obama had "aligned himself" and who "hate America" and "wish to see America fail."
While we're at it, what the heck does it mean to want America to "fail?" Fail at what? America is a nation-state, and as such its purpose is to protect the rights of its citizens and advance their general welfare, so I suppose America would "fail" if it defaulted on those goals. I don't know of anyone associated with Obama who actively seeks that outcome, but it's worth noting which party has been most consistently in favor of policies that restrict the freedoms of Americans based on their own narrowly-defined visions of "morality" and "tradition" and which benefit the most privileged strata of society to the exclusion (and all too often at the expense) of the working people who actually produce the wealth we enjoy. And no, the answer is not "the Democrat [sic] Party."
You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America' crowd and deliver this message abroad.
This suggests that you have apparently never read or listened to a single speech Obama has ever given. Either that, or you equate the honest admission of shortcomings (usually a necessary step in solving those shortcomings and improving oneself) with "blaming America." Perhaps you believe that America is infallible, guaranteed by Divine blessing never to make even the slightest mistake in any policy or program? If so, that is scary.
You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.
Given how well the "private sector" has been shown to regulate itself, why is this a bad thing? Moreover, why should one trust the autocratic and undemocratic corporate sector to run things better than the elected and theoretically democratic government? Europeans in general do not seem to be too upset with lifestyle and standard of living that their close cooperation of government and business provides them.
You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.
Similar to above, why is this scary? Moreover, it displays your ignorance: Obama has never suggested replacing the private health care system but rather augmenting it with a government-subsidized system for those who fall through the cracks. Our health care system as it stands now stinks. One has to wait ridiculously long to just get an appointment with a doctor in your network, and then you have to gamble about whether or not your insurance provider will grudgingly pay for the care you need. Insurance companies have no transparency or accountability, and I have yet to see any kind of convincing argument why a government-subsidized system would do any worse a job. Canadians and Europeans somehow manage just fine. One has to suspect that the root of what "scares" you is the fear that you will have to pay a little bit more of your wealth in taxes to help support programs for those who didn't have the good fortune to become Vice Presidents of major corporations with generous compensation packages. This is selfishness, pure and simple.
You scare me because you prefer 'wind mills' to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
This is absurd, and short-sighted. These "vast oil, coal, and shale reserves" are not infinite. They will run out, probably sooner than we think. Maybe you think that "necessity is the mother of invention" and will trust in market forces to solve the fuel crisis once the world's economy completely collapses; common sense, however, would advise that an ounce of prevention is worth a
URL: Great minds...
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au67
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Daniel the blogger
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7/29/2009 1:59:00 PM
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In looking at Daniel's profile, I noticed that he failed to list his favorite drink, which is obviously Obama "kool-aid."
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lamont
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Funny.....
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7/29/2009 2:09:22 PM
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I went to Daniel's Blog and his picture is exactly what I suspected. The face of the Democratic Party. Toke-up Daniel.
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Talullahhound
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Yeah Daniel!!
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7/29/2009 5:25:02 PM
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You know the problem with these "open letters"? You could write one for anyone sitting in the WH at any given time. I could have written one during the Bush Administration, as I saw the unrealistic rise of personal debt and real estate prices rise, and a totally unjustified war in Iraq; when I heard the "axis of evil" speech and "you are either with us or against us". And every time he said that "the American people HAVE to understand" and his infamous "I am the decider".
But the problem with these open letters is that they never provide any alternative solutions to any of the problems facing our country. And as far as I'm concerned, anyone who wants to see the President "fail" or this country "fail" doesn't deserve to be listened to.
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Summer Lover
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Yeah Daniel!!
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7/29/2009 5:29:20 PM
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I do want our country to continue to be a success - in order for that to happen, our President MUST fail in his quest to make the Government omnipotent. Do I deserve to be listened to?
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au67
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Yeah Daniel!!
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7/29/2009 7:47:01 PM
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The only people wanting this country to fail are in the Obama administration! Only through failure of this administration will this country, as a free and capitalistic society, survive. No matter how you spin it, more government involvement in our lives is less personal freedom and the destruction of personal incentive.
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MrHodja
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Yeah Daniel!!
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7/29/2009 8:20:21 PM
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I do NOT want the country to fail.
That is why I want Obama to fail.
The man is a bigger threat to our national security than the crazy ragheads. They don't have the means to destroy us.
He does.
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Talullahhound
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You know
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7/29/2009 10:44:42 PM
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I understand what you are saying and I think I understand why you are saying it. But, just as an intellectual exercise, consider this -- maybe the changes Obama wants to make are evolutionary changes that this country needs to survive and go forward. Maybe he is transformational President.
I think the US has had a history of transforming our culture - any maybe this is just the next step.
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MrHodja
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You know
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7/29/2009 10:55:41 PM
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But transformed into what?
Me thinks you underestimate the number of red-blooded Americans that kind of like what brought us to be the most powerful, richest country on the earth - and don't want this legislated mediocrity that the Messiah brings.
Indeed there are a number of misinformed (IMHO) individuals who mistakenly think he will lead them to Utopia. That unfortunately is just so much Bovine Shinola. Those poor people are just like sheep being led to the "slaughter".
Color me unconvinced and still unwilling to accept what I abhor.
Nasreddin Hodja
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Talullahhound
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But things change
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7/30/2009 7:37:30 AM
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We don't know what the next step in democracy looks like -- I'm not asking you to believe that Obama is the savior, I'm just asking you to consider that maybe we are evolving.
Of course, we are more comfortable with the status quo, and none of us have a crystal ball and we don't know what the future will look like. Not the first time that people have predicted disaster only to have it come out fine in the longer term. Just a thought.
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architect
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But things change
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7/30/2009 9:07:55 AM
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Mr. Hodja, do you prefer we be singing "God Save the Queen" at the start of a baseball game? Should Jefferson have saved the taxpayers money by telling France "no thanks" on the Louisiana purchase or Seward to Russia on Alaska? Was it a mistake to free the slaves? Did we prematurely grant the vote to women? How about those "socialistic" land grants to railroads, western farmers and public Universities like Auburn and UGA? What of establishing National Parks, setting aside National Forests, how about TVA? Dare I say the progressive income tax (bet I can predict most of this forum's opinion on that one)? Then there's the draft in time of war? All of these changes, policies and programs offended and were opposed by some citizens, especially those who considered themselves conservatives. Would you have been among them?
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au67
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But things change
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7/30/2009 10:45:19 AM
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I won't speak for MrHodja, but "God Save the Queen" has a good beat, but it's awfully hard to dance to.
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Summer Lover
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But things change
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7/30/2009 11:26:31 AM
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I think we are talking about The United States of America, so the Queen is not involved. We came over here, took land from the inhabitants, and built a great country. Most of your noted changes were to build this country and grow the people. Bush started in with bailing out private industries on a scale never before seen, and Obama has taken the ball and ran with it. Obama does not believe in the 10th amendment or the 2nd (look at his votes, not the rhetoric). Why do we have to destroy our industries through cap and trade and put our citizens at risk through “healthcare reform”? As far as taxes – I will work and earn money as long as I get to spend it – when my taxes get too high – I will start living on your dime instead. Gimme a dollar!
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Mack
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What Really Scares Me is
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7/30/2009 6:55:49 PM
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the feeling that the Administration/Congress is RUSHING into some serious social and economic legislation without the significant inspection/debate/ checks and balances applied.
I know that delays change, but the Constitution was DESIGNED that way to prevent a President or Party from making big mistakes that could prove fatal to this country.
Taxpayers are already obligated to pay back however many Trillion Dollars already legislated. Now, we move from financial chaos to social structuring that allows the Fed to come between my Doctor and Me??
If the Health Bill passes and goes into law, perhaps States Rights activity, combined with Seniors marching down the Mall with their walkers, will cause a Judicial check. Failing that, maybe a move to Costa Rica with my 401K re-invested into something local??
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MrHodja
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But things change
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7/30/2009 9:56:37 PM
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Not quite sure where to start, but most of what you mention is part of what allowed us to be where we are.
- Free enterprise
- Capitalism
- Entrepreneurship
That is what got us where we are.
- Egregious handouts to those who don't deserve it and aren't willing to work for it
- Excessive taxation of those who are PRODUCTIVE
- Penalizing those who dare to strike out and make it on their own
That is what is WRONG and will destroy us.
Do you have a problem with the former? Do you prefer the latter? Time to 'fess up with a choice.
What say you?
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architect
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What Really Scares Me is
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7/30/2009 10:14:49 PM
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Some very good comments Mack, but there is nothing, I repeat nothing in any of the current healthcare proposals which will put the Gov't between you and your Dr. Just because Mitch McConnell or Rush Limbaugh says it doesn't make it so. Check the House Bill for yourself. There is much wrong with the current proposals, but we have to make an effort because we can not have another 10 years when health insurance cost go up 4 times as fast as American's income. I don't know your age and it may not be a problem for you but it might very well be catastrophoc for your children and grandchildren. It will certainly be so for millions of Americans.
I posted a couple of months ago with my ideas of reform. To make healthcare insurance cheaper, we must make it more competitive. To do that we should take all healthcare insurance away from employers and place a mandatory minimal health insurance requirement on each individual with the employer savings going to the employee as higher pay. State sudsidies and/or insurance credits would go to those who are unable to fully pay for the insurance. Insurance providers must be prohibited from refusing coverage to anyone for prexisting conditions, this could be softened by setting up an assigned risk program which most states have for auto coverage. The states should establish health insurance coops which individuals could join and which could negotiate with and accept proposals for minimal to maximal plans from providers. An individual could if he chose do his own research and get his own policy. I know that such a program has a lot of flaws with the biggest being it is politically impossible because it requires sacrifice from all stakeholders.
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architect
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But things change
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7/30/2009 10:20:47 PM
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Sorry to disagree Mr Hodja, but each item I listed other than singing "God Save the Queen" was a government program. To be sure many of them was supportive of capitalism and individual enterprise but the were all initiated by the government. I forgot to mention the Federal Reserve.
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JohnGalt
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What Really Scares Me is
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7/30/2009 10:28:39 PM
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There is nothing that will put you in between you and you healthcare provider?
URL: http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/24/news/economy/health_care_reform_obama.fortune/?postversion=2009072410
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JohnGalt
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What Really Scares Me is
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7/30/2009 10:29:12 PM
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There is nothing that will put you in between you and you healthcare provider?
URL: http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/24/news/economy/health_care_reform_obama.fortune/?postversion=2009072410
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MrHodja
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But things change
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7/30/2009 10:31:07 PM
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Which supports my "what" and not "who" contention in another post. There is nothing wrong with the Government proposing a measure that is for the good of the country and will foster its growth. There is something inherently bad in Government proposals that will serve to destroy the fabric of what made and makes us great.
As I asked in the other post. what is it that Obama (and his lackey Congress) is doing that will foster our long-term growth and greatness? And don't tell me it is because they gave $80 million to the National Endowment for the Arts to support, among other things, porn shows in San Francisco. Won't buy that FACT, archie.
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JohnGalt
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What Really Scares Me is
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7/30/2009 10:31:49 PM
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that will put the govt between you and the healthcare provider. Sorry
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architect
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But things change
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7/31/2009 8:07:56 PM
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Do you want to be the one to decide which Gov't actions are good and which are bad? At the time the abolition of slvery was considered radical a bad for the economy.
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MrHodja
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But things change
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7/31/2009 11:18:27 PM
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Answer my question.
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