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water_watcher
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Cost of the NYC Date
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8/14/2009 7:10:10 AM
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I am sure Obama cares about the recession and the people out of work, as well as cutting wasteful spending. They the liberal dems will be critical of executives flying a corporate jet to a meeting. Mind you they are not flying at tax payers expense.
Subject: The Date
Written by an Air Force Officer who was there.
First, let me say that I've moved three presidents up to now and I've seen incredible waste. But, the "new" guy really takes the cake. I don't have an issue with the President promising his wife dinner and a show or that he even takes his wife out. But, when I saw the news say that the date cost $24,000, here's what you DON'T know.
Three days before "dinner" a C-17 flew Marines and the helicopter
maintenance equipment to JFK Airport. The day before "dinner" I flew the USSS and the motorcade to JFK Airport
Our crew of 5 spent two days and nights at the Hilton in Times Square . My hotel bill: $621.66 plus $64 a day in per diem. The USSS guys were at a different Hilton in NYC, so figure that cost another $14,000 (or so) plus per diem. The Marines had to have cost as much and were there four days, so figure another $55,000 plus per diem (for 44 Marines).
We were supposed to fly the motorcade back and go home, but the Air Force was so short C-17's that we were re-tasked to take the motorcade back, return to JFK and take the helicopter back to Quantico.
When we got back to JFK, while the pilot was turning the plane around to park, he noticed a rotor blade sticking out of the hangar where the helicopter was parked and informed me that either it wasn't ready to transport or it was flying home. After shutting down I walked over to the hangar and to my surprise I find FIVE helicopters, not ONE. We're obviously not transporting five big helicopters. I went and talked to the Marines guarding the "fleet" and found that they were flying all five helicopters
home and we were only transporting the Marines and the aintenance equipment. After talking to the Marine(s) in charge, I was told
that the White House requested FIVE helicopters. The Marines told me that they spent all morning trying to figure out how much it cost them to come and said they figured it cost them $140,000 to stay there (I don't know where they came up with that) and the trip's total had to be about $1,000,000.
We heard that the President didn't use Air Force One (the 747) so I asked if he came in on one of the 757's. I was told that he came in on THREE Air Force Lear jets.
So, date night consisted of:
2 C-17's flying three missions, 3 Lear jets, 5 Helicopters, Presidential Motorcade, 44 Marines, more than 20 USSS personnel on our plane. Who knows what it cost the NYPD and NY Port Authority (at the airport) in overtime.
These are the same people that chastised the automobile CEO's for using their aircraft. It further proves that the media only use the facts that make the President look good and hide any facts that will detract from his persona.
Is this the 'change' we expected? Talk with friends and those who are not blinded by charisma. Many folks I know who voted for Obama are very disappointed and sorry they did so. Remember, 2010 is just around the corner. All we have to do is survive long
enough.
The Emperor's clothes on a grand scale. "Transparency"?
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JustAGuy
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Just Curious?
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8/14/2009 5:56:52 PM
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Is there anyone here besides WW who actually believes this piece was written by an Air Force officer who is part of the detail that moves Presidents around the world? Thanks.
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and who really cares?
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architect
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No, but
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8/14/2009 7:42:23 PM
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If it is from an officer that is part of the detail that moves POTUS around the world I'll bet he will be transfered immediately if not sooner.
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JustAGuy
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Exactly
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8/14/2009 11:14:04 PM
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No officer that has reached the status of being part of the force that moves POTUS around the world would risk their job by writing/blogging this crap. Also, the three planes that took Obama, his staff, and the press corps to NY were on Gulfstream jets ... not Lear Jets, and I suspect that an advanced Air Force pilot would know the difference between Lear jets and Gulfstream jets. BS all around.
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JustAGuy
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And
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8/14/2009 11:15:44 PM
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A typical WW post ... once again, his "facts" aren't factual.
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The story doesn't make sense on so many levels.
What about all the trips GWB made to Crawford? And when the Reagans went back and forth to their CA ranch?
Not like the Pres can just hop a shuttle flight.
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JustAGuy
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Good Point
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8/15/2009 1:02:03 AM
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Hound .... You are so correct ... I saw one article that said that Bush went to Crawford 77 times in his 8 years in office, for a total cost of like $17M .... and I don't begrudge him a single trip. If you become POTUS, you give up a tremendous amount, and you also earn/deserve a tremendous amount. Travel and Security are part and parcel of the job ....
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