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Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Hound
Date:   8/23/2009 10:52:35 AM

As I post this I'm listening to Joe Scarbourough on Meet the Press. Lordy I wish more Democrats and Republicans made as much sense and cared as much about America and Americans as this man does.



Name:   Yankee06 - Email Member
Subject:   Archy
Date:   8/23/2009 12:11:53 PM

Good Morning Archy,
-I'm truely interested, what was it that Joe said that got you so enthused?



Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Archy
Date:   8/23/2009 2:31:27 PM

He said what I've been saying. Both sides need to stop cow-towing to the extremes and listen to the sensible majority in the middle who are fed up. He also said that the "haters" (he used that word) need to be given their free speech and then they need to be ignored.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Serious Question
Date:   8/23/2009 2:48:04 PM

Without naming names, do you think there are any "haters" posting regularly on this forum?

I will reserve revealing my opinion until you answer so as to not influence your answer one way or the other.

Beautiful day out there....too bad I am having to cut up and haul off a large hackberry tree from my property that died at age 40+. Rather be at the lake....

Nasreddin Hodja



Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Serious Answer
Date:   8/23/2009 3:47:00 PM

Mr H. It is a beautiful day here in Atl. too. When I went out this AM for my morning "run" (walkers often pass me) it was 61F.

No I do not think there are any "haters" among the regulars on this forum. I see no evidence that any of them take seriously people who I do think at least speak in hateful terms (Rush, Beck,
M. Moore and any number of elected folks in both parties). I know that many listen to these folks but don't think many really agree with the more off the wall opinions expressed. I was pleased heartened in most of the responses to my question related to guns at rallies: the consensus being that they had the right but were stupid to do it. That is basically my belief. I'm just sorry that no leaders in the GOP have the guts to say the same. As I think Joe S. was implying: they are afraid not to kow-tow to the extreme right wing base.

Now, I do think a few (including perhaps you and especially WW) who get all heated up on occasion including you and me and make statements that I hope they regret at least a little once they cool down.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Serious Answer
Date:   8/23/2009 4:28:17 PM

That is basically my opinion as well. We have some serous debaters, some who throw "grenades", then hide, and others who will make statements just to get a reaction. But each is genuine in his or her own way and I don't sense any hate....disbelief that the other side "can't see the light", but not hate.

Well, the tree is in its final resting place, all two tons of it, and my back will not forgive me for at least a week or two. But, I will have to say manning the chain saw is quite rewarding. I get to destroy something for a good cause, and can immediately see the results....very different from my day job where I try to help folks secure their automated systems and sometimes never know if I succeed.





Name:   lakngulf - Email Member
Subject:   Serious Answer
Date:   8/23/2009 4:34:39 PM

You never know with Computer Security and Homeland Security. The slogan for both is "no news is good news"



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Serious Answer
Date:   8/23/2009 4:58:34 PM

If we do our job perfectly nothing happens!



Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Serious Answer
Date:   8/23/2009 5:10:15 PM

I think you said a Hackberry tree. Do you mourn its loss? A landscape architect i often recommend puts the Hackberry only slightly above weeds as desirable plant material. I have one at a rental property and while it's not an oak or maple, it at least provides shade. Get a drink, lay down and rest your back.



Name:   alahusker - Email Member
Subject:   Did not cut down any trees.
Date:   8/23/2009 5:25:21 PM





Name:   alahusker - Email Member
Subject:   Did not cut down any trees.
Date:   8/23/2009 5:41:56 PM

but did teach my wife how to drive the lawn tractor, she voluntered and liked it.. Cut my work day in half, she rides the tractor, I weed eat.. All this after fishing with a friend on a private pond, at sunrise.. First fish today was 7 pounds, 9 oz. My personal record, she is swimming free but toting a sore jaw. Second one was only 4# 7oz. Swimming with her Mom. Does that add up to 12# for the first 2 fish??



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Hound
Date:   8/23/2009 6:11:50 PM

What I like about Joe Scarbrough is his reasonableness. I don't agree with everything he says, but I can certainly find a lot that I do agree with. He has a variety of guests, and 99% of the time, he lets them talk. I think he represents the way a lot of us think.

I've never experienced the thrill of the chain saw, but Feb used to try to lure me onto the riding mower. I never set foot on that machine, because I've seen far too many women riding them and I instinctively knew that once on, I'd never get off. LOL.
Now we have a lawn service that accomplishes in an hour what would have taken 2-3 hours doing ourselves.




Name:   alahusker - Email Member
Subject:   I still enjoy the sweat
Date:   8/23/2009 7:32:13 PM

from of a chain say, weedeater and cutting grass.. After 45 years of being married to the same woman, she discovered my lawn tractor today.. Mixed emotions, she likes it (maybe a vibration deal) but she got it 'stuck' against the rock wall.. Pushed it out, a bit of paint touch up and no problem.. Proud of the girl.. maybe, I can show her how to change the oil and replace the air filter?? (BTW, she still don't clean fish, alas.. )



Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Heck
Date:   8/23/2009 8:41:51 PM

My wife of 44 years still want pump gas.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Serious Answer
Date:   8/23/2009 9:31:32 PM

I share your landscaper's opinion of the Hackberry, also known locally as a sugarberry tree. Our property at one time long ago was a dairy farm, and there was a barbed wire fence that ran from the front of our property to the back, and someone planted the hackberrys along the fence line. The tree line actually kind of splits the property into a 100X722 lot and a 200X722 lot.

So I have a 722 foot line of hackberrys, spread about 10-15 feet apart. The danm things send roots for what seems like miles, and the roots send shoots up everywhere. Mowing takes care of the shoots in the open area, but I am forever cutting out hackberry saplings that grow up into our decent shrubs and plants.

I guess the hackberry is the tree version of kudzu.....



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Heck
Date:   8/23/2009 9:36:21 PM

My wife of 42 years (I think I see a pattern here, except we take the newlywed prize??) likes to ride the Kubota with the five foot grooming mower. She started using it the month I was in Italy and now is getting quite good at it. Breaks my heart to watch her taking over my kingdom...not!



Name:   JustAGuy - Email Member
Subject:   Heck
Date:   8/23/2009 10:30:45 PM

In our first year of marriage ... the wife and I bought our first house ... deal was, Saturday mornings I do the lawn ... she does the flower beds ... about three weeks in ... I am doing the lawn, and she is laid out in her bikini on the deck getting a tan ... just one of many reasons (mostly my fault) that we didn't make it to 44 years. :)



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Heck
Date:   8/23/2009 10:41:37 PM

I guess from her perspective you should do the lawn and the flower beds, and she does her nails....

It does seem, though that there are an inordinate number of posters on this forum that have been married a long time.





Name:   JustAGuy - Email Member
Subject:   Heck
Date:   8/23/2009 10:52:17 PM

I am proud of any couple who makes a go of it ... my parents made 50 years ... my brother is going on 25 years ... marriage is tough at it's worst, and fabulous at it's best ... and probably most often in between ... congrats to all of you who made it work. :)



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Heck
Date:   8/24/2009 7:46:07 AM

Now you've made me feel guilty. Lest you think I left my husband out to sweat while I did something fun --- no, I just preferred doing the weed eater and the weeding because in truth, the lawn tractor made me nervous on our hills.
But, I don't like yard work, and DH has his knee problems, so we got a service.
Of course, I used to get up at 3 am to go duck hunting with Feb.
We're veterans of a lot of home improvement projects. And then there was the time I got whacked in the head with a board.

We'll be married 30 years on October 9th.



Name:   Mack - Email Member
Subject:   Well now>>
Date:   8/24/2009 5:35:04 PM

my other and I celebrate 25 over Labor Day at the beach, and that is my second try. She does not like yard work (except picking the tomatoes and flowers), and I don't interfere when she dusts/vacuums and shops hours, and hours, and.....







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