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	Name:	MartiniMan -
	Subject:	Submissiveness and slavery are two different deals
	Date:	12/12/2013 8:56:06 PM

Interesting work that I think captures a lot. When people ask me how we made it to 30 years of a happy marriage I tell them the secret is each spouse wants the best for the other and that means each is focused on fulfilling the needs of the other instead of thinking what is in it for them and are willing to sacrifice for the other.

A priest I know well who spent years in marriage counseling told me that one of the biggest obstacles to reconciliation was when one or both spouses were no longer loyal to the other. Not in the sense of infidelity but for example, would not defend their spouse when someone criticized them or made jokes at their expense. He also had another great retort when someone would ask what could a person that never married know about marriage. He would say, most people only know one marriage but he knows hundreds and spouses, women in particular would tell him things they would never dare tell their spouse.

But the key here is understanding the meaning of submissiveness in the context of a marriage. Many of the needs of men are fulfilled by a wife submissive to those needs and not fixated on what is in it for her. And vice versa, meeting her needs means sacrifice and doing what does not come naturally. If both spouses approach a marriage with this goal in mind, if they remain loyal to each other (and not just basic fidelity but much deeper) and they want what is best for the other it usually works. Also helps immensely to pray together and play together.

But the reason for my post was not so much to focus on what she put I her book but also to point out the visceral reaction of the militant feminists who could never find the intellectual honesty to admit that there may actually be something to the concept of submissiveness in its proper perspective. Let men be men and the head of the household and women be women as the chief nurturer. It actually works.

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"Submissive" wives-answer to happy marriages? - MartiniMan - 12/12/2013 1:16:41 PM

Submissiveness and slavery are two different deals - MAJ USA RET - 12/12/2013 5:57:45 PM

Submissiveness and slavery are two different deals - MartiniMan - 12/12/2013 8:56:06 PM

Submissiveness and slavery are two different deals - MAJ USA RET - 12/13/2013 4:44:18 PM

"Submissive" wives-answer to happy marriages? - Tall Cotton - 12/13/2013 2:17:03 PM

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