Name:   MartiniMan - Subject:   Source for your view? Date:   6/3/2015 4:59:47 PM (updated 6/3/2015 5:06:57 PM)

OK, then how do you know that health care was the most important issue on the minds of Americans?  What is your factual basis for that belief?  I was merely responding to your contention that it was a big issue and my clear recollection that it wasn't.  My sources are multiple polls taken during the Bush years that asked respondents to list the issues of most importance to them.    These polls were done by right leaning, left leaning and everywhere in between polling outfilts.  I would agree it is wise to view any one poll with a grain of salt but if they all say essentially the same thing it is probably on the mark.  So unless you can prove to me with real data that health care was a burning issue during the Bush years I stick with my contention that you are wrong.

If you don't think Obamacare is a train wreck and are not ideologically blind, which I accept, then there is something else at work here.  Even if you love the idea of the federal government controlling one sixth of our economy you would have to be intellectually dishonest to think Obamacare is better than what we had before.  Sorry Hound, but given the significant cost increases, the lost plans, the lost doctors and all the lies told to justify this law your position is incomprehensible to me.  

As for your anecdotal stories, recent studies have shown that MORE people are using the ER for primary care than did before Obamacare.  And the reason people can't afford the doctor visit is the deductible under Obamacare is significantly higher than they had with their old "Cadillac" plan that were outlawed.  Trust me, if you can't afford the doctor visit you can't afford the premium under Obamacare.