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Name:   GoneFishin The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   I Disagree With You...............
Date:   10/27/2016 6:40:16 PM

I believe your are confusing impeachable crimes and impeachment. The Presdient cannot pardon an impeached person. He can pardon someone who has comitted an impeachable crime but has not been impeached. To be impeached requires a vote for Articles of Impeachment by the House which is then sent to the Senate to actually vote on impeachment. The President has the power under the Constitution to pardon someone BEFORE the Senate votes. Nixon was pardoned by Ford after the House voted to send it to the Senate and Nixon resigned BEFORE the Senate voted to impeach. So, he was pardoned for all crimes he MIGHT HAVE COMMITTED against the United States.

As to the requirement for contrition. that only applies  as I believe to someone who has been convicted. If one has not been convicted then they are presumed innocent and there is no need to show any contrition.

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1)

The power to pardon is one of the least limited powers granted to the President in the Constitution. The only limits mentioned in the Constitution are that pardons are limited to offenses against the United States (i.e., not civil or state cases), and that they cannot affect an impeachment process. A reprieve is the commutation or lessening of a sentence already imposed; it does not affect the legal guilt of a person. A pardon, however, completely wipes out the legal effects of a conviction. A pardon can be issued from the time an offense is committed, and can even be issued after the full sentence has been served. It cannot, however, be granted before an offense has been committed, which would give the President the power to waive the laws.

Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Legal question - Lifer - 10/27/2016 4:42:17 PM
     Legal question - GoneFishin - 10/27/2016 5:15:51 PM
          That's not correct - Lifer - 10/27/2016 5:48:33 PM
               I Disagree With You............... - GoneFishin - 10/27/2016 6:40:16 PM
                    One Other Thing............... - GoneFishin - 10/27/2016 6:56:53 PM
                    I Disagree With You............... - Lifer - 10/27/2016 6:59:26 PM
                         I Disagree With You............... - Classified - 10/27/2016 11:19:40 PM
                              I Disagree With You............... - GoneFishin - 10/28/2016 1:20:20 AM
                                   I Disagree With You............... - phil - 10/28/2016 10:59:54 AM
                                   I Disagree With You............... - Classified - 10/28/2016 7:54:30 PM
                                        I'l Show You..You Show Me - GoneFishin - 10/29/2016 3:27:07 PM
                                             I'l Show You..You Show Me - Lifer - 10/29/2016 3:53:19 PM



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