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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Watching the current Trump mania
Date:   8/24/2015 9:48:03 AM

I have been watching and reading a lot about Donald Trump a lot lately......not hard to do given them media obsession....and have a few observations.  First of all, I do not think he is a conservative.  For all his bluster and hitting on all these hot button issues with conservatives, if you look at his actual record he is no conservative on either fiscal or social issues.  I don't care what he is saying on the stump or in debates.  He is pandering to the GOP primary voter and doesn't believe any of it.  

Second, his comments and initial plan on immigration, while appealing to many who are concerned about this issue, are not realistic or workable.  Like many people I would like to see our borders made secure, our current immigration laws enforced and some workable plan to deal with the 10 to 15 million illegals in the country.  But anyone who thinks his plan to deport them and get Mexico to pay for the wall is going to happen even if he is elected is being wildly optimistic.  Trump does not possess some secret sauce that will get the government to suddenly do their jobs and to think otherwise is to ignore 200 plus years of historical reality.

Third, I think his current popularlity drives to conservative angst with the current political class that says one thing (i.e., limited government, reigning in an out of control federal government, etc.) and then does nothing or worse, participates in the further erosion of our rights and increases the size and scope of government.  The belief that the GOP "establishment" has abandoned us and is really Democrat lite is very real and Trump is wisely tapping into that anger.  But he is not the solution to this issue and is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Fourth, the real question is whether he can coelesce enough support to overcome another strong contender.  Looking at the current polling data he reminds me a lot of Ron Paul.  He has very strong numbers with his fans (~20% of the GOP base) but is strongly opposed by a majority who would prefer someone else.  Put another way, he is not the second or third choice of many primary voters.  That will have to change or he will not get the nomination.  As for me, he is near the bottom of my list with Jeb Bush, Rick Perry and some others.

Final thought, if he doesn't get the nomination will he go third party and hand the presidency to the Dems?  In my opinion, his refusal to eschew a third party run should be enough to eliminate him from contention.  I know how appealing an anti-establishment candidate is and I understand that people like his willingness to let fly with whatever is on his mind.  But is this really the kind of candidate we want representing the GOP?  It seems to me that Carly Fiorina or Ben Carson, despite their various and sundry flaws, are much more substantive and considerate representatives of the desire for a non-politician.  Disclaimer:  I like Ben Carson but do not think he is right for this job.  As for Carly Fiorina, I continue to watch and listen to her and think she has some appeal.





Name:   waterph - Email Member
Subject:   Watching the current Trump mania
Date:   8/24/2015 10:41:57 AM

WHO IS DONALD TRUMP? AND WHAT DOES HE REALLY STAND FOR?

A MUST READ & SHARE! Donald Trump........who he REALLY is....

The criticisms of Trump are amazingly missing something. When interviewing those who work for him (or who have or have had business dealings with him) negative stories are, curiously, lacking. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is an unmistakable lack of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and compassionate leader and say he has far more integrity and high moral standards than many people think. And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to help him and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous people rarely talk of the charitable acts they bestow on others. But as much as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is, what is Donald Trump’s plan for America ? It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won’t do their own research, here, in no particular order, is an overview of many of Trumps positions and plans:

1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.

2.) Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too.

3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 7 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point): American interests come first. Always. No apologies. Maximum firepower and military preparedness. Only go to war to win. Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies. Keep the technological sword razor sharp. See the unseen. Prepare for threats before they materialize. Respect and support our present and past warriors.

4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.

5.) Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again, drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here. Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here.

6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act – NOPEC – S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil.

7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.

8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to: Up to $30,000 taxed at 1% From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5% From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10% $1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%

9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says it’s a “job-killing, health care-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.” He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs.

10.) Trump wants spending reforms in Washington, acknowledging that America spends far more than it receives in revenue. He has said he believes that if we don’t stop increasing the national debt once it hits $24 trillion it will be impossible to save this country. Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits. Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients. He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy. On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become more tax revenue for the government.

11.) Trump also wants reform of the welfare state saying that America needs “a safety net, not a hammock.” He believes in a welfare to work program that would help reduce the welfare roles and encourage people to get back to work. And he wants a crackdown on entitlement fraud.

12.) Trump believes climate change is a hoax.

13.) Trump opposes Common Core.

14.) Trump is pro-life, although he allows for an exception due to rape, incest, or the life of the mother.

15.) Trump is pro 2nd Amendment rights.

16.) Trump’s view on same-sex marriage is that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he also believes that this is a states' rights issue, not a federal issue.

17.) Trump supports the death penalty.

18.) Trump believes that there is a lack of common sense and innovative thinking in Washington (Hmmm… looks like he believes in horse sense!). He says it’s about seeing the unseen and that’s the kind of thinking we need to turn this country around. He tells a personal story to illustrate the point: “When I opened Trump National Golf Club at Rancho Palos Verdes in Los Angeles, I was immediately told that I would need to build a new and costly ballroom. The current ballroom was gorgeous, but it only sat 200 people and we were losing business because people needed a larger space for their events. Building a new ballroom would take years to get approval and permits (since it’s on the Pacific Ocean), and cost about $5 million. I took one look at the ballroom and saw immediately what needed to be done. The problem wasn’t the size of the room, it was the size of the chairs. They were huge, heavy, and unwieldy. We didn’t need a bigger ballroom, we needed smaller chairs! So I had them replaced with high-end, smaller chairs. I then had our people sell the old chairs and got more money for them than the cost of the new chairs. In the end, the ballroom went from seating 200 people to seating 320 people. Our visitors got the space they desired, and I spared everyone the hassle of years of construction and $5 million of expense. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little common sense.” On top of his saving years of construction and $5 million in expenses, he also was able to keep the ballroom open for business during the time it would have been under remodeling, which allowed him to continue to make money on the space instead of losing that revenue during construction time. Donald Trump’s entire life has been made up of success and winning. He’s been accused of bankruptcies, but that’s not true. He’s never filed personal bankruptcy. He’s bought companies and legally used bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt, just as businesses do all the time. But he’s never been bankrupt personally. He’s a fighter t hat clearly loves America and would fight for our nation. Earlier I quoted Trump saying, “I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately – fiercely, even.” We never hear that from Democrats or even from most Republicans. Donald Trump is saying things that desperately need to be said but no other candidate has shown the fortitude to stand up and say them. Looking over this list of what he wants for America I see a very necessary set of goals that are long past due. Before we criticize someone because the media does, maybe we should seriously consider what he has to offer.





Name:   waterph - Email Member
Subject:   Watching the current Trump mania
Date:   8/24/2015 10:44:00 AM

WHO IS DONALD TRUMP? AND WHAT DOES HE REALLY STAND FOR?

A MUST READ & SHARE! Donald Trump........who he REALLY is....

The criticisms of Trump are amazingly missing something. When interviewing those who work for him (or who have or have had business dealings with him) negative stories are, curiously, lacking. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is an unmistakable lack of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and compassionate leader and say he has far more integrity and high moral standards than many people think. And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to help him and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous people rarely talk of the charitable acts they bestow on others. But as much as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is, what is Donald Trump’s plan for America ? It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won’t do their own research, here, in no particular order, is an overview of many of Trumps positions and plans:

1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.

2.) Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too.

3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 7 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point): American interests come first. Always. No apologies. Maximum firepower and military preparedness. Only go to war to win. Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies. Keep the technological sword razor sharp. See the unseen. Prepare for threats before they materialize. Respect and support our present and past warriors.

4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.

5.) Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again, drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here. Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here.

6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act – NOPEC – S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil.

7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.

8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to: Up to $30,000 taxed at 1% From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5% From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10% $1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%

9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says it’s a “job-killing, health care-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.” He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs.

10.) Trump wants spending reforms in Washington, acknowledging that America spends far more than it receives in revenue. He has said he believes that if we don’t stop increasing the national debt once it hits $24 trillion it will be impossible to save this country. Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits. Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients. He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy. On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become more tax revenue for the government.

11.) Trump also wants reform of the welfare state saying that America needs “a safety net, not a hammock.” He believes in a welfare to work program that would help reduce the welfare roles and encourage people to get back to work. And he wants a crackdown on entitlement fraud.

12.) Trump believes climate change is a hoax.

13.) Trump opposes Common Core.

14.) Trump is pro-life, although he allows for an exception due to rape, incest, or the life of the mother.

15.) Trump is pro 2nd Amendment rights.

16.) Trump’s view on same-sex marriage is that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he also believes that this is a states' rights issue, not a federal issue.

17.) Trump supports the death penalty.

18.) Trump believes that there is a lack of common sense and innovative thinking in Washington (Hmmm… looks like he believes in horse sense!). He says it’s about seeing the unseen and that’s the kind of thinking we need to turn this country around. He tells a personal story to illustrate the point: “When I opened Trump National Golf Club at Rancho Palos Verdes in Los Angeles, I was immediately told that I would need to build a new and costly ballroom. The current ballroom was gorgeous, but it only sat 200 people and we were losing business because people needed a larger space for their events. Building a new ballroom would take years to get approval and permits (since it’s on the Pacific Ocean), and cost about $5 million. I took one look at the ballroom and saw immediately what needed to be done. The problem wasn’t the size of the room, it was the size of the chairs. They were huge, heavy, and unwieldy. We didn’t need a bigger ballroom, we needed smaller chairs! So I had them replaced with high-end, smaller chairs. I then had our people sell the old chairs and got more money for them than the cost of the new chairs. In the end, the ballroom went from seating 200 people to seating 320 people. Our visitors got the space they desired, and I spared everyone the hassle of years of construction and $5 million of expense. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little common sense.” On top of his saving years of construction and $5 million in expenses, he also was able to keep the ballroom open for business during the time it would have been under remodeling, which allowed him to continue to make money on the space instead of losing that revenue during construction time. Donald Trump’s entire life has been made up of success and winning. He’s been accused of bankruptcies, but that’s not true. He’s never filed personal bankruptcy. He’s bought companies and legally used bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt, just as businesses do all the time. But he’s never been bankrupt personally. He’s a fighter t hat clearly loves America and would fight for our nation. Earlier I quoted Trump saying, “I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately – fiercely, even.” We never hear that from Democrats or even from most Republicans. Donald Trump is saying things that desperately need to be said but no other candidate has shown the fortitude to stand up and say them. Looking over this list of what he wants for America I see a very necessary set of goals that are long past due. Before we criticize someone because the media does, maybe we should seriously consider what he has to offer.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/24/2015 11:19:32 AM

The first primary is at the end of January.  The election isn't until Nov 2016.   End of PSR.

 

I've said it before and that is that Trump is the "anti-politician".  He is way ahead in the polls - 32% to Jeb Bush's 16% and Ben Carson is a distant 3rd.  Everyone else is 7% or lower.   It would not surprise me to see him stay ahead in the polls for a long time, even though he continues to make ridiculous remarks (Heidi Klum is no longer a 10; Secretariat is not that great a horse, etc.)  People like him, because he has a plan - you may not think it is workable or realistic - but that is appealing to people who find the current climate in Washington of putting everything on the "too hard" list and not doing anything,frustrating.   You cannot take away from him that he is a smart businessman, a brilliant negoitator (have you ever read "the Art of the Deal"?) and he has a diverse background.  He makes money at the things he does, and when he stops making money, he sells out and moves on. 

I also like Carly Firorino.  I think she is smart, but right now she's not getting any oxygen.

 

A good question to ask yourself - would you prefer a someone that appeals to your "conservative" needs that can't get anything done, or someone who is less conservative and can call the shots (and make them)? 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/24/2015 12:45:24 PM

I guess my point is that Trump will not get the things he is espousing done because one person cannot overcome the way the federal gov't works and I do not believe that he actually believes what he is espousing.  He's saying what many conservatives want to hear or at least closer than the likes of Jeb Bush.  I just don't believe him.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Watching the current Trump mania
Date:   8/24/2015 12:48:34 PM

All these look good to me but frankly I do not believe these are his actual views.  For crying out loud, the guy was a registered Democrat until recently.  This is a laundry list of issues that will appeal to fiscal and social conservatives.  No one who actually believes these things could have ever been a Democrat.  I'm sorry, but I think we are being scammed.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/24/2015 2:48:59 PM

Well, he didnt Just become a Republican - he was around as a Republican during the Barrack Obama elections.  I do believe that people can change their views over time.  Just as the Republican party has moved more to the right, the democratic party has moved further to the left.  Maybe a lot of us are just really independents waiting for the candidate who mostly fits our beliefs, and not entirely fish or fowl.  Frankly, I find it hard to believe that some of the most conservative candidates can do what they claim for much of the same reason.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/24/2015 4:09:53 PM

Not sure how he does it but Trump prior to 1999 was a Republican and from 1999 to 2012 he was variously a Democrat, Indiependent and Reform Party member.  Then in 2012 he apparently returned to the GOP.  So over at least the last 15 years he has only been a Republican for the last three.  Combine that with Clinton's call asking him to run makes me very skeptical.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/24/2015 4:34:59 PM

I hadn't heard that the Clinton's asked him to run.  I know he asked them to invite him to Chelsy's wedding and I know that they did.  Apparently, he is both funny and charming inperson.  But apparently he is exhausting to have dinner with, because he runs a stream of consious dialogue.  Time will tell about him.  I'm justsitting back and taking it all in.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/24/2015 4:54:50 PM

Well it should be entertaining if nothing else.





Name:   lakngulf - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/24/2015 6:38:38 PM

Good discussion. I agree that major appeal is he claims a plan for everything.  Even if untenable he acts like he is willing to try something





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/24/2015 8:09:48 PM

Just find it hard to have faith in his negotiating skills where there is no audience and the fate of the country is on the line.  But that was said about Obama.....uh.....oh chit!





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/24/2015 9:26:47 PM

Did you ever read "The Art of the Deal"?   I never heard that Obama was a good negotiator.   Trump is the CEO of a number of successful companies.  I think he is probably a good negotiator.  I believe that he will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.  Although he is a bit of a buffoon, he is still a really smart guy, and a really good businessman. 





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Public Service Reminder
Date:   8/25/2015 12:55:05 PM

Now that Megyn Kelly has returned from vacation, Trump is after her again with his tweets. He needs to grow up and stop trying to get even. I don't watch her but he is really acting like an idiot with his negative tweets. 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   It's all an act
Date:   8/26/2015 8:49:50 AM

He is getting so much free publicity from the media that he doesn't need campaign funds.  Throws Ramos out of a presser in Iowa, calls Kelly a bimbo, says whatever he has on his mind, and the media do the rest of the work for him.  Saw a piece by Zogby that Trump will run out of steam in the next month or two........where have we heard that before?  I certainly hope so and the sooner the better but I am not so sure.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   It's all an act
Date:   8/26/2015 9:24:31 AM

I watched Trump last night.  When you get past the shameless self promotion, he says what a lot of people are thinking.  What sounds "offensive" is a total lack of political correctness.  The dream ticket would be Trump/Christie for telling it like it is.  :-)

I actually like Trump. 









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