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Name:   MartiniMan The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   No, you wrong.
Date:   5/9/2010 8:42:28 AM

You see Hound, you have exactly made my point with your response. You talk about all these personnel action as if that is the source and summit of what it takes to run a business when in fact it just scratches the surface. That is but one aspect. It must be really rough trying to figure out what to do with a budget. Try being responsible for trying to create the money to run the budget and then I'll give you some slack. You see Hound, I understand how federal procurement works. Now for the deconstruction of your "vast" business experience using just one of your examples of vast business knowledge.......

How did you pay your rent? Did someone just tell you your portion of the rent for this federal building is $x and you included it in your budget? Well who picked the building you were in? Who looked at all the options, went around with the real estate agent, negotiated the rates, reviewed the lease with the attorney and negotiated with the landlord? Who arranged for the insurance of the contents including first picking a broker who then went out to all the markets and got several quotes, all of which were unique and required analysis? Who oversaw and TI work, including reviewing specs and plans, figuring out how to stay within the TI budget and still get usable space? Who contacted the utilities, set up the phones, computers, cabling? Who decided on the phone system you would use, the provider of phone and broadband service? I could go on and on and on but I think the point I have made is that you don't even know what you don't know. None of this even occurred to you because it was magically done by others before you ever got there.

So all you have really done Hound, as admitted in your own post, is PAID for stuff. So you included the rent someone told you to pay out of your budget. You took $x that someone gave you (you didn't have to earn it yourself) and made it fit with y number of people and $z in expenses. Numbers on a spreadsheet......it must have been exhausting. Big deal! As you can see from just this one example you have overseen, reviewed and not ever really done.

You see Hound, I told you before my wife worked for the federal government for nine years and I got to know the people she worked with very well, including the senior management. I may not know everything you know about it but I know enough to devastate your argument that because you pay a bunch of bills out of a budget someone else gave you and had to deal with some personnel issues that you understand business. You don't know the half of it and don't even know you don't know the half of it.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
More of What They Didn't Read - MrHodja - 5/6/2010 6:53:37 PM
     #2 is a tax on white folks - Lifer - 5/6/2010 7:49:36 PM
     More of What They Didn't Read - Talullahhound - 5/6/2010 8:37:46 PM
          More of What They Didn't Read - GoneFishin - 5/6/2010 9:02:57 PM
          Hound, you don't know squat about business - MartiniMan - 5/6/2010 9:12:17 PM
               er, I'm an MBA - Talullahhound - 5/6/2010 10:48:37 PM
                    er, I'm an MBA, without a clue. - Lifer - 5/7/2010 7:46:53 AM
                         Lifer - water_watcher - 5/7/2010 1:34:12 PM
                              your absolutely right of course. - Lifer - 5/7/2010 4:46:12 PM
                    er, I'm an MBA - MartiniMan - 5/7/2010 8:25:42 AM
                         Actually only took them 4 years - MartiniMan - 5/7/2010 8:27:58 AM
                    er, I'm an MBA - MrHodja - 5/7/2010 8:29:05 AM
                         Maybe - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 9:44:49 AM
                              I bet Bill Gates wishes he had and MBA - MartiniMan - 5/8/2010 12:29:57 PM
                    er, I'm an MBA - Barneget - 5/7/2010 11:15:01 PM
          More of What They Didn't Read - Summer Lover - 5/6/2010 10:32:31 PM
               If - Talullahhound - 5/6/2010 10:55:52 PM
                    If - Summer Lover - 5/6/2010 11:13:51 PM
                         If - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 9:47:08 AM
                    If - comrade - 5/6/2010 11:16:33 PM
     More of What They Didn't Read - Summer Lover - 5/6/2010 10:16:48 PM
     The other side of the coin. - Lifer - 5/7/2010 9:29:07 AM
          All I can say is..... - lamont - 5/7/2010 12:14:09 PM
               HEY MM - GoneFishin - 5/7/2010 5:51:16 PM
                    A Little More Than That - MrHodja - 5/7/2010 9:37:20 PM
                         A Little More Than That - GoneFishin - 5/7/2010 10:48:05 PM
                              A Little More Than That - MrHodja - 5/7/2010 11:37:07 PM
                         Ah Yes - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 10:05:33 AM
                              Overseen, reviewed, studied..... - MartiniMan - 5/8/2010 12:10:10 PM
                                   Wrong. - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 9:35:23 PM
                                        No, you wrong. - MartiniMan - 5/9/2010 8:42:28 AM
                                             MM is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT - Barneget - 5/9/2010 4:53:56 PM
                                                  I'm not Embarassed - Talullahhound - 5/9/2010 5:41:30 PM
                                                       I'm not Embarassed - Barneget - 5/9/2010 9:47:39 PM
                                             No, you wrong. - Talullahhound - 5/9/2010 5:36:41 PM
                                                  Its not important - MartiniMan - 5/9/2010 5:51:13 PM
                                                  One sentence says it all - Lifer - 5/10/2010 10:45:19 AM
                                                       One sentence says it all - MrHodja - 5/10/2010 11:15:20 AM
                    HEY GF - MartiniMan - 5/7/2010 10:48:36 PM
                         HEY GF - GoneFishin - 5/7/2010 11:01:37 PM
                              HEY GF - comrade - 5/7/2010 11:17:25 PM
                              CHALLENGE - MrHodja - 5/7/2010 11:40:13 PM
                                   HEY COMMIE - GoneFishin - 5/8/2010 12:41:41 AM
                                        HEY COMMIE - comrade - 5/8/2010 12:58:54 AM
                                             HEY COMMIE THIS LESS VEILED - GoneFishin - 5/8/2010 1:21:02 AM
                                                  HEY COMMIE THIS LESS VEILED - comrade - 5/8/2010 1:28:40 AM
                                        HEY COMMIE - comrade - 5/8/2010 1:16:23 AM
                    MM - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 9:57:37 AM
                         I prefer a puffer fish - MartiniMan - 5/8/2010 11:53:05 AM
               Never got an advanced degree Lamont? - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 9:54:23 AM
                    Never got an advanced degree Lamont? - Lifer - 5/8/2010 12:38:14 PM
                         Never got an advanced degree Lamont? - MrHodja - 5/8/2010 6:49:17 PM
                         business vs. government. - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 8:23:30 PM
                              Clarification - Lifer - 5/9/2010 8:05:20 AM
          You Know. - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 9:52:29 AM
               You Know. - comrade - 5/8/2010 10:17:21 AM
                    No - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 10:26:47 AM
                         No - comrade - 5/8/2010 7:26:30 PM
                         No - MrHodja - 5/8/2010 8:09:07 PM
                              Yes - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 8:25:47 PM
                                   Yes - MrHodja - 5/8/2010 8:48:03 PM
               You Know. - comrade - 5/8/2010 10:17:22 AM
               You Know. - MrHodja - 5/8/2010 12:06:37 PM
                    I Don't - Talullahhound - 5/8/2010 8:33:37 PM
                         I Don't - MrHodja - 5/8/2010 8:49:52 PM



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