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Name:   water_watcher The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   I don't get it either
Date:   2/26/2011 10:16:23 AM


If that is the case ... why are so many non union workforces happy and no "abused" by companies?   1.  there are many laws in place (probably too many) that prtect workers and 2. supply and demand.   the best are in demand and if comapnies do not treat them well, they go elsewhere.  what it boils down to is those that want and feel they need unions, know that they can not leave and do better than they have, so they want unions to protect what they have and fight to get them more.  While that warker may feel it is valuable, ultimately it is not good for companies, states or the federal government since it raises costs and takes away the ability to run a business and government efficiently.

Unions no longer represent the majority of workers ... I do ask you want that 70% that is not unionized is satisfied and do not see the value of them.

I will share a quick story ... when I was in industry, we had a non union converting plant in Texas.  All the factory workers had the same benefits as salaried employees and had the same perfornance review and increase guidelines based on the market and their individual performance reviews by their supervisors.   All was working great for probably 80-90 percent ... but the minority that did not get a good increase (due to performance) were always trying to drum up union talk.   One year, during a recession, increases were delayed for 6 months to save money.   Well that gave an opportunity for the union ... they convinced the workers they would do better under them.  We did what we could legally to show them a typical union plant wage scale and benefits.  but the union still was voted in.

What ulitmately happpen was wages went down, benefits went down, they had guaranteed increase that everyone got no matter their performance ... and they got to pay unions dues for all that.   The union did not last 2 years and the workers voted them out.  To this day that operation is still non union. 

They union knew they could not do the workers any better ... they knew what would be put in place would be the same as other union converting operations.  But the union greed to get the dues had them lying to the employees.

Totally true story.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Our Country - lotowner - 2/24/2011 10:32:14 PM
     Our Country - Talullahhound - 2/25/2011 9:05:12 AM
          Concerned.... - lamont - 2/25/2011 10:04:13 AM
          Our Country - MartiniMan - 2/25/2011 10:57:55 AM
               Our Country - lotowner - 2/25/2011 11:15:49 AM
                    Our Country - MartiniMan - 2/25/2011 12:24:21 PM
               MM There you go again - water_watcher - 2/25/2011 11:29:37 AM
          No - Talullahhound - 2/25/2011 5:40:45 PM
               No, It ain't awful - alahusker - 2/25/2011 9:39:35 PM
               No, sort of....partially - MartiniMan - 2/25/2011 10:00:02 PM
                    what I don't get - water_watcher - 2/26/2011 6:25:35 AM
                         I don't get it either - MartiniMan - 2/26/2011 8:52:02 AM
                              I don't get it either - Talullahhound - 2/26/2011 9:28:42 AM
                                   I don't get it either - water_watcher - 2/26/2011 10:16:23 AM
                                        I don't get it either - Talullahhound - 2/26/2011 4:46:23 PM
                    No, sort of....partially - Talullahhound - 2/26/2011 9:31:07 AM
                         No, sort of....partially - MartiniMan - 2/26/2011 11:02:45 AM
                              No, sort of....partially - Talullahhound - 2/26/2011 4:54:10 PM
                                   No, sort of....partially - MartiniMan - 2/26/2011 8:31:33 PM
                                        No, sort of....partially - Talullahhound - 2/27/2011 7:26:26 AM
                                        And - Talullahhound - 2/27/2011 7:54:19 AM
                                             And - MartiniMan - 3/6/2011 4:44:11 PM
     I disagree ... there is leadership by Obama - water_watcher - 2/25/2011 11:25:12 AM
          I disagree ... there is leadership by Obama - Feb - 2/26/2011 10:35:06 PM
               I disagree ... there is leadership by Obama - water_watcher - 2/27/2011 9:12:15 AM



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