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Name:   water_watcher The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Hound - rely, a bit long winded
Date:   9/16/2011 6:22:55 AM

We are not that far apart.  I agree with 90 plus percent of what you said and the other 10% I am open minded and could be convinced to change my view. 

I have found your posts interesting ... the many times have a very liberal tone and slant, but what you lay out what you will say is needed, is very much in line with a much more conservative point of view ... at least fiscally. 

You may be right that Bush would have been a 1 termer without 9/11 ... we will never know.   We will probably never agree on Iraq.   The rationale was solid based on intelligence it seems even Clinton relied upon and other countries and some WMP's were found ... I am still not convinced there are not more or were not more that were moved out.   But one thing is for sure the world is better with the change in Iraq ... yes it cost a lot of money.  I would agree we can not be the worlds baby sitter.   The positive from Iraq is the chnages we are seeing in the rest of the Arab world ...that was part of the plan and hope.  It is uneasy to see as it goes through the transition, but overtime, the more freedom that can result and dictators out, the world will be safer.  To me, that was worth the money spent in Iraq.

You are right Obama had his focus in the wrong place ... he made this bed based on his choices ... if he was successful I would have been surprised, but given him credit.  But he wasn't, so now he needs to go and the country can not risk giving him 4 more years.  It could be disasterous and we may never recover.  He just doesn't get it.   And you are right, he does not listen and just wants to fight with his critics. 

This jobs bill is turning in to a big joke ... it was obviously political and not real ... it is mostly more of what failed.  If he truely cared he would have sat down with congress and hammered out a bill, rather than his approach ... and it would have been done long ago.  Did he just realize we have a job problem?   This situation with the solar company could get very ugly and much worse than Watergate since it wasted $528 million of tax payer money on one company that had ties to one of Obama's big doners.  And who in their right mind would provide that kind of money and being 3rd or fourth on the default list.   If it was really to create green jobs, whay not loan $10 million to 52 companies or $25 million to 20 companies .... why all to one company.   Now 1,100 more people are unemployed and we have nothing to show for it.

Lastly, I agree that we need spending cuts and entitlement reform .... where i would differ on taxes is we need a reform to our tax system to support business growth in this country and job creation, we need to change the personal system to broaden the based. The reform needs to generate more tax revenue ... but we do not need higher taxes. I know you are enjoying retirementment now (good for you and I look forward to it in about 5 years - at 60) ... but it makes me sick to look at how much comes out in taxes each pay period. I do fall in to the Obama "rich" category ... but I can tell you I do not feel rich at all and worked hard to get to where I am, and it does bother me where I hear that I do not pay my fair share and Obama wants even more.

BTW ... good morning.  I am up enjoying my coffee, then back out to work so the 51% that pay no taxes do not have to ...

One last thing on entitlement reform ... why does our government reward baby factories with more and more financial assistance.  There should be a cap, after two children you get no more.   Also, if society is providing assistance, there needs to be some giving back to society in return through mandatory community service, etc to continue to keep getting assistance.  That encourages work and getting them off the government subsidies.   Lastly, if you are not in this country "legally" you qualify for no benefits whatsoever.  What over country can you be in illegally that you would not be in jail, let alone enjoying benefits of tax paying citizens?  It is crazy.
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After over 100 years - water_watcher - 9/14/2011 7:07:06 AM
     After over 100 years - MrHodja - 9/14/2011 7:25:03 AM
          After over 100 years - Talullahhound - 9/14/2011 9:09:19 AM
               After over 100 years - water_watcher - 9/14/2011 10:36:47 AM
               After over 100 years - Barneget - 9/14/2011 12:31:23 PM
                    After over 100 years - Talullahhound - 9/14/2011 2:11:12 PM
                         After over 100 years - Barneget - 9/14/2011 3:37:59 PM
                    After over 100 years - water_watcher - 9/14/2011 5:05:21 PM
                         Dim says "you don't deserve to keep your money.." - Barneget - 9/14/2011 10:17:46 PM
                         After over 100 years - Talullahhound - 9/14/2011 11:17:37 PM
                              Yada yada yada... - Barneget - 9/14/2011 11:46:00 PM
                                   Yada yada yada... - Talullahhound - 9/15/2011 8:06:31 AM
                                        Yada yada yada... - water_watcher - 9/15/2011 7:08:00 PM
                                             Yada yada yada... - Talullahhound - 9/16/2011 12:11:01 AM
                                                  Yada yada yada... - buzzbuster - 9/16/2011 2:50:15 AM
                                                  Hound - rely, a bit long winded - water_watcher - 9/16/2011 6:22:55 AM
                                                       Hound - rely, a bit long winded - Talullahhound - 9/16/2011 8:19:30 AM
                                                            Hound - reply, a bit long winded - water_watcher - 9/16/2011 11:52:59 AM
                                                                 Hound - reply, a bit long winded - Talullahhound - 9/17/2011 5:53:32 PM
                                                                 Hound - reply, a bit long winded - Talullahhound - 9/17/2011 5:54:49 PM



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