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Counting votes
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4/14/2012 5:00:06 AM
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That's a new one. I'm familiar with how fraud is done on Diebold and ELRON/VOXEO machines from the United States and Israel respectively. I suspect the concern with SCYTL is changing tabulation numbers before the election? When you say the Spanish company counts the votes, what involvement do they have in counting? Usually local election commissions do the counting.
I've been involved (as a volunteer) with a group combating vote fraud since December. The group has been moderately successful exposing fraud in the GOP caucuses in many states where they had paper ballot counts. When machines are used by primary states there is little oversight that can be done on them. With machines, fraud could be done long before Election Day and it would be difficult to programmatically prove it even if you could get access to the data card after the election.
County election commissions work under rules established by the Federal Election Commission (FEC). The parties do not play any official role in coordinating the election and are not supposed to have access to the machines. If machine cards are programmed, it would be done by an election commission or someone that could provide access to the machine data cards, not necessarily the machines themselves. Every election commission has varied levels of physical security to machines.
With the GOP caucuses this year (paper ballot counts), the tabulation errors were communication errors between precinct GOP chairs, county leaders and state GOP officials. They were written-off as honest mistakes, but that is indisputably how Pat Buchannan was cheated out of about 15% of Iowa's Des Moines County vote in 1996. You may recall Romney winning Iowa and later Santorum winning Iowa? Watch the Vote was instrumental in getting the affidavits to change the winner. The GOP provided a lot of resistance to that challenge. Then there has been delegate assignment corruption which is a completely different matter from vote fraud.
With machines, there are 2 things that can be done: 1) look for negative numbers in precinct results… or 2) If you can possibly have everyone that voted for a candidate that would sign affidavits that do not equal the results of the precinct, that would reveal a programmatic aberration. John Kerry had negative numbers in precincts in 2004. But Kerry conceded and did not allow his attorneys to pursue an investigation.
I'm new to all this, but I think the General Election could be more fair than a party nomination process because each party will be policing the other. With party nominations, the party is in control of the election and they have their own internal corruption issues with less FEC oversight. It's up to the campaigns to challenge problems. I’m sure the Democrats are no different from Republicans in this regard. Vote fraud is a much bigger problem than people realize. I’ve become a believer that there should be no electronic machines. All ballots should be counted out in the open. Then the most important thing is for people to verify that their precinct is recorded correctly all the way to the state level.
For more information on vote fraud watch "Hacking America". It's a documentary that demonstrates how Diebold machines can be hacked.
Watch the Vote - www.VoteFraud.org
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