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Name:   architect The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   you will have to do better than that!!
Date:   12/1/2015 8:53:59 PM (updated 12/1/2015 9:06:28 PM)

Ok, it's not worth my time digging through the mush in your cranium but l will waste it because you have made some comments that are, shall say, a bit mushy themselves.

Obama took the oath...whether or not he has lived up to it is opinion, not truth or lie.

Obama has not given anybody amnesty, he issued an executive order intstructing the DoJ to use selective enforcement regarding some immigration statutes.  His actions have been challenged in court and l suspect if the courts ultimately rule that he overstepped his authority he will accept their decision.  Not sure we could say the same of some of the current GOP field...ie. Ted Cruz

Obama did not say the ACA would reduce all insurance premiums $2500.  He did say it was estimated that the law would save $2500 in premium increases.  Premium increases have dropped sharply.  Of course since there is no way to know what the increases would have been had the law not gone into effect, it is not possible to prove the $2500 figure is or is not correct.  Regardless, it is not a lie but an expression of opinion based on best evidence info from sources other than Obama himself.

Premiums, on average, continue to go up but at the slowest rate of increase in decades.

No government funds in the form of premium subsidies go for abortions.  every single individual who has purchased health insurance through the exchanges has purshased a policy from a private company (there is no public alternative choice).  Many of these private policies cover abortions (sorry about that) but no subsidy money goes toward such procedures. No where does the law say private insurance companies could no longer cover abortions.

Obama has written 2 books...are you saying he lied about writing them?  Where is your proof?

I have never heard Obama claim that his parents were inspired to get together by the events in Selma.  Where did you get this information...from Breitbart?

Obama did not say he had doubled the distance the miles cars get on a gallon of gas...he said his administration had put in place auto fuel efficiency standards that will double auto milage in 25 years.  You have 21 years to wait before you can say for certainty he ''lied''.

Context is really really really important as is accurate quotes.

 

Hope this straightens you pretzel a bit but am not holding my breath.

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               Hound - architect - 11/30/2015 7:59:36 PM
                    Hound - Talullahhound - 11/30/2015 10:07:41 PM
                         Hound - copperline - 11/30/2015 11:10:10 PM
                              Amen!! - architect - 12/1/2015
                                   Amen!! - Talullahhound - 12/1/2015 8:43:37 AM
                                        Amen!! - copperline - 12/1/2015 12:31:03 PM
                                   Amen!! - lakngulf - 12/1/2015 9:07:57 AM
                                        Amen!! - au67 - 12/1/2015 10:25:19 AM
                                             Amen!! - architect - 12/1/2015 11:24:57 AM
                                                  Amen!! - lakngulf - 12/1/2015 11:38:11 AM
                                                       Amen!! - architect - 12/1/2015 12:11:59 PM
                                                            Amen!! - lakngulf - 12/1/2015 12:27:40 PM
                                                                 Amen!! - architect - 12/1/2015 12:50:37 PM
                                                                      Amen!! - lakngulf - 12/1/2015 2:05:06 PM
                                                                      Amen!! - Lifer - 12/1/2015 2:51:03 PM
                                                                           you will have to do better than that!! - architect - 12/1/2015 3:20:15 PM
                                                                                you will have to do better than that!! - Lifer - 12/1/2015 4:46:39 PM
                                                                                     you will have to do better than that!! - architect - 12/1/2015 8:03:45 PM
                                                                                you will have to do better than that!! - rude evin - 12/1/2015 5:15:01 PM
                                                                                     you will have to do better than that!! - lakngulf - 12/1/2015 7:29:47 PM
                                                                                          LNG - rude evin - 12/1/2015 9:34:31 PM
                                                                                     you will have to do better than that!! - Talullahhound - 12/1/2015 8:00:02 PM
                                                                                     you will have to do better than that!! - au67 - 12/1/2015 8:02:01 PM
                                                                                          au67 - rude evin - 12/1/2015 9:33:11 PM
                                                                                     you will have to do better than that!! - architect - 12/1/2015 8:53:59 PM
                                                                                          Oops....found some more - rude evin - 12/1/2015 10:08:20 PM
                                                                                               Oops....found some more - architect - 12/1/2015 11:45:42 PM
                                                                                                    Archy the Pretzel man - rude evin - 12/2/2015 9:50:55 AM
                                                                                                         Archy the Pretzel man - lakngulf - 12/2/2015 11:58:35 AM
                                                                                                              Archy the Pretzel man - rude evin - 12/2/2015 4:38:45 PM
                                                                                                                   Archy the Pretzel man - architect - 12/3/2015 8:53:06 AM
                                                                                                                        Whoa...found some more - rude evin - 12/3/2015 12:05:01 PM
                                                                                                                             Whoa...found some more - architect - 12/3/2015 12:41:25 PM
                                                                                                                             sorry, I can't resist - architect - 12/3/2015 12:47:05 PM
                                                                                                                                  sorry, I can't resist - rude evin - 12/3/2015 3:45:07 PM
                              Hound - au67 - 12/1/2015 7:24:57 AM



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