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Name:   MartiniMan The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Help me understand the logic
Date:   3/29/2009 10:01:27 AM

But you never answered my question, is it right for the government to force you to send your children to one school over the other because that is what you said when you opposed private schools?

As for government funding, do you realize that Washington DC spends almost $26,000 per student per year (source: Washington Post piece by Andrew Cousen)? That is significantly more than I spend to send my children to an elite private school in Atlanta. More funding is not the solution. Ironically, under your scenario of "equality", D.C. would actually lose money and lots of it. Even the very best public school systems in Atlanta spend half as much as D.C. and get incredibly better results.

You see Hound, this is exactly what I mean when I say you believe so much that just isn't true. You truly believe (and I know your heart is in the right place) that equality in funding is the answer and it just isn't so. I agree about teacher's being rewarded for merit but not about new teaching methods. New teaching methods are one of the reasons we are in the mess we are in. Merit should mean results.

I agree that it would be ideal if all schools were equal but that is never going to happen. When you have school districts run by corrupt boards, incomepetent administrators, poor teachers and students from dysfunctional families you are never going to achieve the same results no matter how much you and I wish it were so. In fact, I am of the opinion that school choice like vouchers, charter schools, etc. will result in the overall improvement of the system because boards's and adminstrator's will understand that the better students with more involved parents finally have an option and will leave if they don't deliver. If they don't, then the local community should throw them out. And if they don't throw them out then they deserve what they get. Nothing you or I or Federal government do will change that fact as demonstrated so well in the D.C. school system.

As for the desire for socioeconomic integration, you need to come spend a day at my kid's school. There are all races and economic circumstances because we have a scholarship program and don't discriminate. Our school is ten times more integrated than many, if not most public schools. No one cares if a white guy dates a black girl or vice versa, when we have birthday parties we have white, black, asian, hispanic kids all over the place. Granted, schools like where the Obama's send their kids may not be so egalitarian (and especially won't in the future as the Messiah eliminated a scholarship program that allowed 1,700 kids in D.C. escape the rotten schools thanks to his slavish desire to please the teacher's union....so much for compassion). But painting a broad brush in claiming government schools are somehow egalitatarion and private schools deny children the ability to see what the rest of the world is like just isn't so. I would dare say that an inner city school in Atlanta is a heck of a lot less integrated and filled with different socioeconomic classes than our school.

I appreciate and generally agree with the desired outcome as your core beliefs but I hope this gives you some good ideas about why your prescriptions won't get the desired results. Are you open minded enough to at least consider other ideas?

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Drug Testing - SPEARFISHER - 3/27/2009 2:19:45 PM
     Drug Testing - water_watcher - 3/27/2009 2:29:49 PM
          Drug Testing - MartiniMan - 3/27/2009 3:30:09 PM
          Drug Testing - architect - 3/27/2009 9:24:59 PM
               Architect - 1DERWHY - 3/27/2009 9:45:46 PM
                    Architect - architect - 3/27/2009 10:08:28 PM
                         Architect - 1DERWHY - 3/28/2009 9:18:20 AM
                              Architect - architect - 3/28/2009 10:00:05 AM
                                   Architect - architect - 3/28/2009 10:35:36 AM
                                        Architect - water_watcher - 3/28/2009 10:52:19 AM
                                             Architect - architect - 3/28/2009 12:13:44 PM
                                                  Architect - water_watcher - 3/28/2009 3:30:55 PM
                                                       Architect - architect - 3/28/2009 4:54:13 PM
                                                            Talk about impossible - MartiniMan - 3/28/2009 11:52:25 PM
                                                                 Talk about the possible - architect - 3/29/2009 6:25:30 PM
                                                                      I really don't get - MartiniMan - 3/29/2009 8:50:05 PM
     My two cents - TBird - 3/27/2009 4:38:09 PM
          My two cents - Summer Lover - 3/27/2009 5:07:13 PM
               My two cents - water_watcher - 3/27/2009 5:18:10 PM
               My two cents - TBird - 3/27/2009 5:20:45 PM
                    My two cents - Summer Lover - 3/29/2009 10:11:20 AM
     Drug Testing - Talullahhound - 3/27/2009 6:22:33 PM
          Drug Testing - GoneFishin - 3/27/2009 11:46:10 PM
               Drug Testing - water_watcher - 3/28/2009 8:38:04 AM
               Drug Testing - water_watcher - 3/28/2009 8:42:36 AM
                    I Oppose Private Schools - Talullahhound - 3/28/2009 3:30:34 PM
                         I Oppose Private Schools - water_watcher - 3/28/2009 3:33:11 PM
                              But - Talullahhound - 3/28/2009 3:39:48 PM
                                   But - water_watcher - 3/28/2009 3:45:13 PM
                                        But - Talullahhound - 3/28/2009 3:55:00 PM
                                             But - water_watcher - 3/28/2009 4:38:36 PM
                                        But - MrHodja - 3/28/2009 4:02:10 PM
                         Help me understand the logic - MartiniMan - 3/28/2009 11:45:01 PM
                              Help me understand the logic - Talullahhound - 3/29/2009 12:06:17 AM
                                   Help me understand the logic - water_watcher - 3/29/2009 6:52:27 AM
                                   Help me understand the logic - MartiniMan - 3/29/2009 10:01:27 AM
                                   Here are the numbers - MartiniMan - 3/29/2009 10:18:18 AM
                                   And finally - MartiniMan - 3/29/2009 10:22:45 AM
                                        Believe it or not - Talullahhound - 3/29/2009 12:24:33 PM
                                             Believe it or not - MartiniMan - 3/29/2009 4:54:19 PM
                                                  Believe it or not - Talullahhound - 3/29/2009 5:51:11 PM
                                                       Nope - MartiniMan - 3/29/2009 8:56:54 PM



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