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Yankee06
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let's focus
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5/31/2009 11:31:24 AM
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-The subject was the 1st amendment using this hotel incident as an example.
-The hotel gave as its rationale for cancelling the conference as the hotel's fear that violent pro-Moslem groups would take actions that would endanger the hotel's facilities or patrons. That kind of situation is a threat to our 1st amendment rights.
-Had the hotel said that once it found out the subject of the conference, the hotel management found this subject offensive and thus refused to host the conference, that would be the hotel exercising its first amendment rights.
-But Archy's reference to an activist group taking violent action against the hotel as that group exercising its first amendment rights is just plain wrong. The ist amendment does not protect violent acts, or speech that promotes violent acts, ---(...however, since the 1st amendment does protect violent speech, there is a gray area between it and speech that promotes violent action).
-in recent years, we have added to ths mix of 1st amendment rights the issue of "hate" speech. In the view of many, the laws against "hate" speech have severely limited 1st amendment rights. But perhaps that a discussion for another time.
-This hotel incident has not been phrased by the management as a 1st amedment issue. Rather it has been phrased as a "fear" issue, --thus is an issue of cowardness in face of intimidation and emotional extortion. Such fear, intimidation, and extortion are all crimes under the 1st amaendment. (---about an earlier comment in an above email about union threats not having the same safety concerns as a terrorist threat. I come from a long-time union family and know the history of uniion activism very well. There was a time, probably about the same time referenced in the above email, when a union threat was a serious threat to someone's home, business, and life.)
-personally, I believe incidents like the hotel example are a threat to our 1st amendment rights, I believe all Americans (not just those supporting a particular ox) should be concerned. I further believe that our fixation on "political correctness" in speech has become a form of self-censorship and is also a threat to our 1st amendment protections.
-just some thought for your consideration
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