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Name:   Yankee06 The author of this post is registered as a member
Subject:   Understand your point
Date:   5/31/2009 3:55:06 PM

let's look at your four very good points:

1) the conference went on and peope were killed; would the exercise of first amendment be more important than peoples' lives? --the 1st amendment, as part of the constitution and a derivative fom the Declaration, has been protected by alot of lives-on-the-line, ...and many of them lost. Should we add a clause to the first amendment that says something like .."free speech, but only if were not threatened with bodily harm." Where's Patrick Henry when you need him.

2) would I be OK with a film of late term abortion? ..where did you get the idea from anything I've said in this forum that I'm either for or against abortion? ...do you assume that because I'm for free speech that I'm against abortion? ...but to answer your question, of course i'd support the right of free speech for people who promote abortion. I still don't get why every thing on this forum gets down to being either a left or right issue, with no one listening to the argument once a label has been applied.

3)..stand on your soap box but not on my porch; ..I certainly agree. But that's not the issue here. The hotel agreed to let the soap box go on its porch, but then rescinded because of fear of thugs, terrorists, etc. The conference's and the hotel's first amendment rights were being denied thru intimidation and threats of force or perceived threats of force. That, by most views, is a suppression of first amendment rights, and as citizens the government should act to protect this right or abrogate its responsibility and allow citizens to protect their own rights..

4) Issue of public safety: ...in examples of the IMF meetings, G8 conferences, etc that you mentioned in emails above, were these called off because of threas to public safety? Of course not. Why not? ..well, in America because of the right to free speech and assembly.

...just a few thoughts for your consideration.

(PS: for those of us who think in the middle and probably for most who think only left or right ---Tiller's death is a sad event)
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Immunity from Criticism - lotowner - 5/29/2009 6:48:51 AM
     Immunity from Criticism - Talullahhound - 5/29/2009 11:41:18 AM
          Immunity from Criticism - Yankee06 - 5/29/2009 1:04:17 PM
               And I Agree - Talullahhound - 5/29/2009 5:57:43 PM
                    And I Agree - Yankee06 - 5/29/2009 11:26:21 PM
                         No Argument - Talullahhound - 5/30/2009 9:12:54 AM
                    And I Agree - Yankee06 - 5/29/2009 11:27:03 PM
                         And I Agree - lotowner - 5/30/2009 9:59:51 AM
                              And I Agree - Talullahhound - 5/30/2009 12:29:34 PM
                                   And I Agree - lotowner - 5/30/2009 7:09:22 PM
                              And I'm curious - Talullahhound - 5/30/2009 12:35:51 PM
                                   And I'm curious - architect - 5/30/2009 3:27:20 PM
                                        And I'm curious - Yankee06 - 5/30/2009 6:19:05 PM
                                             And I'm curious - architect - 5/30/2009 8:27:25 PM
                                   And I'm curious - MrHodja - 5/30/2009 10:01:36 PM
                                        I used - Talullahhound - 5/31/2009 10:04:17 AM
                                             AMEN AGAIN - architect - 5/31/2009 10:56:06 AM
                                                  let's focus - Yankee06 - 5/31/2009 11:31:24 AM
                                                       Understand your point - Talullahhound - 5/31/2009 3:19:01 PM
                                                            Understand your point - Yankee06 - 5/31/2009 3:55:06 PM
                                                                 Understand your point - architect - 5/31/2009 6:36:00 PM
                                                                      Okay I give up - Talullahhound - 5/31/2009 9:01:09 PM
                                                                           Okay I give up - Yankee06 - 5/31/2009 11:05:41 PM
                                                                                Okay I give up - alahusker - 6/1/2009 8:19:32 AM



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