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Name:   Yankee06 The author of this post is registered as a member
Subject:   Polls-comments
Date:   8/30/2009 1:58:23 AM

OK Archy, I'll bite.
-Is teh repub party being marginalized as a southern regional party? Of course it is. This first hit everyone on the night of the election when the final map depiction of which states went blue and which went red. It looked like a school map of the sides in teh civil war. Some commentators even went so far as to say that it wasn't an election issues map, it was a racial issues map. We're still stuck with that thought on MSNBC, --i.e., as Mathews constantly states, if you're against Obama it's because you can't accept a blackman as president. So it's worse than being though of as a regonal party because of issue differences; the danger is that the repubs will be thought of as a regional party based on racial issues.
-I'm not a big poll guy unless i know the questions that were asked and how it was conducted. But let's say that Archy's poll was a good one, --then I would have to say that Republicans have to worry about being seen as a regional party.
-IN teh last election, the miserable performance of teh republicans in congress in the previous 4 years had a lot to do with the election results, but the most important impact was the economic freefall in the last three-six months before the election. Based on those two circumstances I can understand how the repubs were beaten so badly.
-What I can't understand is this poll's results showing that Obama has not fallen as much as I would have thought in the other regions. Are people not aware of what he is doing to teh economy, to foreign policy, to the nation's cultural fabric? --or maybe I'm just out of tune with how the rest of teh country views on present national ideas on what makes a strong American economy, American foreign policy, American culture, and what Obama is doing to them. They must approve, but I can't figure out why.
-In almost every discussion I have with my liberal friends, they have no commands of the facts on any issue; not on the health care bill, not on the fiscal takeovers/bailouts, not on the automotive takeovers/bailout, not on the amount of debt,. There answer is always something like, --well these are tough times caused by George Bush and they require tough meaaures by Obama. That's it for rationale. It's very hard to discuss issues with such people. They make Archy look like a genius by comparison.
-If teh repubs want to come back, they have to come up with a plan that does more than wait for teh swing vote to become disenchanted with Obama. Archy's poll would indicate that's not going to happen. The repubs have to come up with better issues arguments or not be marginalised to God, gays, and gun issues. I don't see this happening yet.
-As an independent I wish we had stronger parties. But because we're not party-centrist thinkers (i.e., the party platform is always right), we end up in smaller groups and are thus marginalized in national elections.
-At the moment, there are very few national leaders available for teh repub party in 2012. The ones that were out there have proved ineffectual or morally compromised (and that's hard to do in this age). Mitt Romney is the only one presently on the scene that has a chance, and that's a slim one at best.
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Speaking of polls - architect - 8/29/2009 4:05:01 PM
     Short response, watching - alahusker - 8/29/2009 5:30:22 PM
          Uhh...... - architect - 8/29/2009 8:53:30 PM
               Uhh......BTW - architect - 8/29/2009 8:57:19 PM
                    You forgot - Astro - 8/29/2009 9:09:58 PM
                         I'm still waiting - architect - 8/29/2009 9:21:21 PM
                              I'm still waiting - realfast64 - 8/29/2009 9:24:55 PM
     OK, I apologize - alahusker - 8/29/2009 10:16:13 PM
          My point is - architect - 8/29/2009 10:31:35 PM
               Polls-comments - Yankee06 - 8/30/2009 1:58:23 AM
               My point is - Talullahhound - 8/30/2009 1:47:46 PM
                    My point is - MrHodja - 8/30/2009 2:47:29 PM
                         Valid theory, Mullah.. - alahusker - 8/30/2009 3:52:07 PM
                              Valid theory, Mullah.. - Yankee06 - 8/30/2009 5:32:31 PM
                                   Yankee06 - alahusker - 8/30/2009 7:48:02 PM
                                   Yankee06 - alahusker - 8/30/2009 8:01:16 PM
     Going down - MartiniMan - 8/30/2009 6:14:31 PM
          Going down - JustAGuy - 8/30/2009 7:05:16 PM
               Indeed - architect - 8/30/2009 11:12:33 PM
                    A perfect response - MartiniMan - 8/31/2009 10:39:15 AM
                         MM pray tell me please - architect - 8/31/2009 6:20:09 PM
                              Question - MrHodja - 8/31/2009 7:41:05 PM
                                   Question - architect - 8/31/2009 10:29:37 PM
                                        You don't know my heart - MartiniMan - 9/1/2009 9:19:43 AM
                                   Thank you! - MartiniMan - 9/1/2009 4:46:24 PM
                                   Another example - architect - 9/1/2009 9:41:34 PM
                                        Another example - MartiniMan - 9/2/2009 10:57:37 AM
                                        Another example - MrHodja - 9/2/2009 12:10:20 PM
                                             "Uppity?" - alahusker - 9/2/2009 7:05:47 PM
                              Guvment = black?!?!? - MartiniMan - 9/1/2009 9:14:47 AM
                                   But then again - architect - 9/1/2009 9:30:19 PM
                                   But then again - architect - 9/1/2009 9:30:19 PM
                                   But then again - architect - 9/1/2009 9:32:40 PM
                                        Wrong once again - MartiniMan - 9/2/2009 8:50:18 AM
                                             Last comment - architect - 9/2/2009 8:50:52 PM
                                                  Well, what you really said - MrHodja - 9/3/2009 7:15:40 AM
                                                  Last comment - MartiniMan - 9/3/2009 8:05:44 AM



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