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	Name:	MartiniMan -
	Subject:	You have to be kidding
	Date:	7/6/2012 9:43:11 AM

You are the one that started this thread and then later claimed you had to remain anonymous out of fear of reprisal while the rest of us have no problem telling you who we are. But let me respond to each of your baseless accusations. i do so in capital letters so its easy to see my response and not for any other reason. i would use italics but that doesn't work on the forum.

OK, MM, let’s break this down. First, you begin with a description of me that’s derisive and suggests i have really craven character …. including a very visceral image that i slither like a snake. The habit i have of posting irregularly is redefined as running away from a fight, suggesting that i am cowardly & fear that i will be humiliated. Finally, what few personal details i gave just now were quickly picked up, & characterized as lying. Everybody knows that calling a man a liar is traditionally the final insult before coming to blows…. We all know that’s one the most vile & basic of challenges to honor, character & manhood… it’s a time when you either defend yourself or be disgraced as a coward.

MM RESPONSE: My observation is that you, Archie and ecstasy only seem to show up when there is something to crow about. And that observation was made by many others as well and frankly i think has real merit. But your response above is so emotional and childish it is hard to take seriously. My point was exactly the opposite of this, that you have absolutely nothing to fear from any of us because quite frankly we pity you and your deluded world view and being responsible adults have no time for this kind of nonsense. it is no wonder that each year fewer Americans will admit to being liberal or progressive.

So that post contained a set of seriously hostile messages strongly suggesting you are trying to goad me into a fight. Have i just been called out to the alley behind the bar?

MM RESPONSE: i defy you to point to specific language where i was hostile or am goading you into a fight. i matured past that kind of silliness after high school. And believe me, the bars i go to don't have a problem with people going into the alley and fighting. We are too busy enjoying our adult beverages and engaging in polite and sometimes spirited conversation. Coppertop, you really need to lighten up and get a life. Your skin is so thin it is almost transparent.

With that good command of language, your post was really uncensored & intentionally insulting…. telling me that you despised & loathed me. But you don’t have any idea who i am.

MM RESPONSE: Again, you need to lighten up and i would love to have you point out where i said i "despised and loathed you". Methinks you are projecting here. But i do find it interesting that you mention censorship. That's what you really think needs to happen here don't you? You really think i should not be able to express my opinion because you don't like what i say do you? You and Hound have a lot in common but here's the deal. You don't have to post here and neither do i. i do so because i enjoy the banter, especially with folks like GF, who still has a sense of humor despite his flawed world view.

Just a reminder: this thread is about whether anonymity is supporting and encouraging verbal aggression.

MM RESPONSE: Exactly! And i have offered to tell you who i am so send me a personal message. But only with this caveat since you have posted this thread. i will only show you mine if you show me yours (not that mine and yours but contact information). i am not ashamed of anything i post here nor am i ashamed of my conservative beliefs.

i’m a stranger to you & someone you will never have to see. is that why you feel so comfortable talking like that? Now that you’ve started writing specific & personalized attempts to nail me with insults, what kind of reaction are you hoping to get?

MM RESPONSE: i actually got the exact response i would expect from a liberal. No sense of humor, no sense of proportion, a thin skinned, easily insulted, take everything personal and so on. But i can tell you i have lots of liberal friends and i say exactly the same things to them about their world view. The difference is they seem to have the ability to engage in the give and take without imagining personal threats. Heck, i've said much worse about GF and he just comes right back with biting humor, sarcasm and good will. You could learn something from him.