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	Name:	MartiniMan -
	Subject:	Then, WHY>>
	Date:	9/24/2009 6:43:18 PM

JaG: I have a different understanding about why Hillary lost the primary and I don't think it was her gender or her last name. Her team made a tactical error in not trying to win the early caucus's which gave Obama an early lead and momentum that she was not able to overcome in the larger primary states. The caucus's are a weird process where a candidate can win simply by being better organized and having lots of people at each event. I do agree that there was an element of Bush/Clinton fatigue but I think that was a distant second to a better strategy by the Obama campaign.

As for the Republican side I agree that Romney would have been a better candidate (disclaimer: I voted for him in the primary). I completely disagree that McCain lost because of Palin and I believe he had no hope of winning from the outset (which is why he was the government media selection). We only have to look back to Bush 41 to see what happens when a candidate loses their base. There is no way they can win. I agree that Palin turned off a goodly number of independents. But I maintain that she engaged the base and McCain's calculation was that she would solidify enough of the base while not turning off more independents. He was wrong about that but frankly anyone he chose to bring back the base would have been vilified by the press and the opposition. Had he picked a VP candidate that the independents approved of he would have lost the base and lost the election. McCain was a loser from the outset.

I agree that we forget all the Muslim and birth certificate baloney. There is enough with his statist view of the world to oppose and we don't need the other issues to vehemently oppose him and to hope he fails in implementing his agenda.

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