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	Name:	water_watcher -
	Subject:	The real irony of it all
	Date:	2/26/2011 8:59:45 AM

The difference is you have states in crisis ... they have to have the cuts or the majority of tax payers pay more. They are not asking more from state workers than the private sector pay. In fact it is still less. And the private sector does not have union bargin rights over healthcare and pensions.

The outrage over Obamacare is the government was sizing control and taking rights and freedom from the people and forcing them to pay more on top of it. No one disagrees people should have access to healthcare if they want it and there should be ways to deal with people that do not choose to have healthcare and can afford it.   But not the approach taken.

As for NJ, Ohio & WI ... there were negotiations and adjustments made ... but typically the liberal side is negotiate as long as they get their way, otherwise it is unacceptable.   When it comes down to a state defaulting or cutting benefits equal to what others have, I am not sure what their is to negotiate?    I guess we could have situations like Chicago and Detroit that are just defaulting rather than take responsibility for the obligations they have. Don't think that is the answer either.

Look at Indiana that has been a republican for most of its history and is a conservative state ... through all of this, they still have a surplus and very low taxes .... there are other examples.   It does seem states that have a history of being liberal and run by democrats are in the most trouble. That should say a lot.