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Name:   copperline The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Mountain out of a molehill
Date:   5/21/2016 5:11:13 PM

H Clinton did not 'botch' her healthcare initiative... it was roundly opposed by the conservatives at that time and struck down...   Too much, too soon.   The Obamacare package was the 2nd attempt to reform the system and was successful...although full of compromises that I wish it didn't have.  Frankly her efforts here sure eclipsed other First Ladies...... for instance, Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" campaign and Lady Bird Johnson's Beautify America program......  even Michelle Obama's child nutrition initiative.   It was big, bold and too soon for that reform to take place.   It did, however, start the ball rolling and she should be given credit for being well ahead of other politicians in seeing that we needed it.

The 'Arab Spring' was not under the control of the US Secretary of State.   No way, no how.   

I remember her being  a very active Sec. of State, commuting into the Middle East and elsewhere on a regular basis.   

The 'scandals' of the White House gifts and how she allegedly treated the White House staff seem like made up fluff to me.  Nothing there of sufficient weight to be important in the context of electing the President of the US.

My take on her is that she has simply been around long enough, and has stuck her neck out far enough, to give lots of opportunities to criticize her in various ways.   Most of those criticisms are over-weighted with presumptions about her that are baseless.   There has been an active propaganda campaign associated with the Bengazi committee that has been intent on lynching her.  Propaganda is not factual.  

She did not open a bogus "University", selling tuition for $30,000 plus... then delivering nothing on the promises made.   The Court cases on that will be happening this Fall.     She was not responsible for her husband's sexual indiscretions, unless every woman whose husband is unfaithful is to be held responsible for what her husband does.   She did not call men "pigs & dogs" when she thought they were ugly and not sufficiently sexy for her.   She did not give hours & hours of Howard Stern interviews about her sex life.  She did not pose as her own publicity director to give interviews admiring herself.    She does not claim to be a champion of veterans causes, and then insult a respected Senator as a loser because he was captured and tortured in Viet Nam.   She did release her tax returns, all of them.   She did not file bankruptcy on a half-dozen very expensive real estate ventures leaving other investors with tremendous losses.   She does not make fun of reporters who have birth defects.  She does not think that women who get abortions should be punished, then say she didn't say that at all.

Her real world experience with foreign relations and domestic policy far outshine the bluster & shallowness of Donald Trump's ability & track record.   And no one, no one, matches the dangerousness of Donald Trump when it comes to his willingness to say anything that pops into his head.   Not only does he not have foreign policy experience, he is likely to create diplomatic crisis after diplomatic crisis simply because he thinks he is bulletproof.

The rest of us are not bulletproof.   He is going to make the world a much meaner and more dangerous place if you elect him.

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Mountain out of a molehill - Shortbus - 5/20/2016 10:05:21 AM
     Mountain out of a molehill - MrHodja - 5/20/2016 12:48:29 PM
          Mountain out of a molehill - Talullahhound - 5/20/2016 5:47:30 PM
               Mountain out of a molehill - MrHodja - 5/20/2016 8:50:48 PM
                    Mountain out of a molehill - lakngulf - 5/20/2016 9:22:52 PM
                         Mountain out of a molehill - copperline - 5/21/2016 9:53:46 AM
                              Mountain out of a molehill - architect - 5/21/2016 2:54:01 PM
                                   Mountain out of a molehill - Talullahhound - 5/21/2016 3:47:36 PM
                                        Mountain out of a molehill - copperline - 5/21/2016 5:11:13 PM
                                             Geez....verbosity personified - wix - 5/21/2016 6:13:52 PM
                                                  Geez....Wix - architect - 5/21/2016 8:18:28 PM
                                                       Geez....Archwizard - wix - 5/21/2016 10:07:36 PM
                                                            Geez....Archwizard - architect - 5/21/2016 10:45:02 PM
                                                                 Geez....Archwizard - wix - 5/22/2016 7:29:40 AM
                                                  What? - copperline - 5/21/2016 11:00:25 PM
                                                       What? - wix - 5/22/2016 7:23:37 AM
                                                            What? - copperline - 5/22/2016 10:27:51 AM
                                                                 Thanks!! - architect - 5/22/2016 3:02:36 PM
                                             Mountain out of a molehill - Talullahhound - 5/21/2016 8:27:06 PM
                                                  Mountain out of a molehill - copperline - 5/21/2016 11:36:13 PM
                                                       Mountain out of a molehill - Talullahhound - 5/22/2016 4:44:06 PM
                                                            How DoD is Different - MrHodja - 5/22/2016 4:53:50 PM
                                                                 How DoD is Different - Talullahhound - 5/22/2016 9:10:16 PM
                                                                      How DoD is Different - lakngulf - 5/22/2016 9:54:37 PM
                                                                           How DoD is Different - Talullahhound - 5/22/2016 10:30:07 PM
                                                                                How DoD is Different - MrHodja - 5/22/2016 10:47:18 PM
                                                                                     2 responses - copperline - 5/23/2016 10:34:52 AM
                                                                                          5 replies - lakngulf - 5/23/2016 11:01:50 AM
                                                                                               5 replies - lakngulf - 5/23/2016 3:13:30 PM
                                                                                                    5 replies - lakngulf - 5/23/2016 6:43:11 PM
                                                                                          Correction - MrHodja - 5/23/2016 7:17:15 PM
                                                                                               Correction - copperline - 5/24/2016 12:15:13 AM
                                                                                                    Copperline - Talullahhound - 5/24/2016 10:27:10 PM
                                                                                          2 responses - Talullahhound - 5/23/2016 7:58:30 PM
                                                                                               2 responses - copperline - 5/24/2016 12:36:38 AM
                                                                                                    Now Copperline - Talullahhound - 5/24/2016 10:22:36 AM
                                                                                               Hound - architect - 5/24/2016 4:55:58 PM
                                                                                                    Hound - Talullahhound - 5/24/2016 6:03:01 PM
                                                                                                         Hound - architect - 5/24/2016 10:27:00 PM



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